 
French777
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Username: French777
Post Number: 137
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 8:37 am: |    |
isn't it just a better idea to make Transit to/from DTW to Downtown Detroit or Royal Oak or Pontiac better than starting up city airport agian. |
Reetz12
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Username: Reetz12
Post Number: 163
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 8:54 am: | |
No |
Aiw
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Username: Aiw
Post Number: 6237
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 8:56 am: | |
Starting it up again? When did it close?
It has very high use as a GA field. Just because it doesn't have scheduled service doesn't make it less important. |
Bob
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Username: Bob
Post Number: 1452
Registered: 11-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 9:03 am: | |
Oakland International Airport in Waterford is GA and has a high rate of use, why is City Airport any different. With the growth of downtown and Detroit, its use will continue to go up for GA use. I would think City Airport would be much easier to use for a company than going out of busy Metro Airport. |
Thejesus
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Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 930
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 9:09 am: | |
"With the growth of downtown and Detroit"
I thought Detroit was still declining in residents... |
56packman
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Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1234
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:37 am: | |
Are you talking about "Supersport's Dragway in Detroit"?
SUNDAY!-SUNDAY!-SUNDAY! Supersport Dragway!
NITRO BURNING FUNNY CARS!
TOP FUEL DRAGSTERS!
McNICHOLS AT CONNER!
(Message edited by 56packman on April 16, 2007) |
1953
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Username: 1953
Post Number: 1350
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 10:50 am: | |
Downtown has grown in recent years in terms of total residents. |
Charlottepaul
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Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 794
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:43 pm: | |
Certainly downtown has more residents than it has in the last one hundred years. So which option is cheaper: a larger City Airport (runways and all), or a transit line between downtown and Metro Airport? |
Eastsidedog
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Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 953
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 12:55 pm: | |
Honestly City Airport is a blight on the neighborhoods surrounding it, but then again I heard it was the city dump before it became the airport, so that area has been blighted for a long time. |
Fury13
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Username: Fury13
Post Number: 1532
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:00 pm: | |
I would say that it's the other way around: the neighborhoods surrounding City Airport are a blight on the airport.
The airport is pretty well maintained.
The surrounding neighborhoods are not. |
Thejesus
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Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 935
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 1:37 pm: | |
I vote for transit from DTW to downtown...seems to work well in other places
Hopefully this Amtrack commuter rail trial will be successful this summer and it will end up being permanent... |
Eastsidedog
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Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 954
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 5:09 pm: | |
Fury13, property values are usually shit near airports. Lots of noise. Lots of pollution. Who wants to right next to an airport? |
Whithorn11446
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Username: Whithorn11446
Post Number: 55
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 5:30 pm: | |
"property values are usually shit near airports. Lots of noise. Lots of pollution. Who wants to right next to an airport?"
Lots of people did live by the airport for decades. Most of the houses on the Conner side of the airport were built a year or two before it opened. Most of the years it was just small planes. My dad said he was able to turn on the stereo and pick up the airport control tower. Besides, don't you think being able to wave to an airplane pilot from the De La Salle football field was a unique experience ? Where else in Detroit could you do that ? |
Detroitnerd
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Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 813
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 5:31 pm: | |
When it comes to stadiums, we've GOT to have SKYBOXES and QUALITY SEATING to KEEP the TEAM. Money is no object!
When it comes to moving our residents, cheapness is the most important consideration. Why they need all those airports? Close 'em down. They're a drag on land values. |
Bulletmagnet
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Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 285
Registered: 01-2007
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 5:41 pm: | |
Right on Whithorn11446. I used to drive over to French Rd after work on Fridays just to watch the aircraft take off and land. It was a pretty unique experience, I think; to have a road side view of the airport, drink a few Stroh’s, before cursing home to get the weekend started. |
Dtwflyer
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Username: Dtwflyer
Post Number: 52
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 16, 2007 - 5:47 pm: | |
City airport is absolutely needed for its purpose as a general aviation airport serving downtown, the Grosse Pointes, and Macomb County. Closing City Airport would result in all of the corporate jets, private planes, light cargo to have to relocate to Oakland-Pontiac, Willow Run, or Oakland-Troy, not of which are very feasible options. Despite not having scheduled commerical service it is still a very important airport to the Metro Detroit area. The air traffic at City isn't suited to use DTW. |
Ltdave
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Username: Ltdave
Post Number: 44
Registered: 09-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 8:55 am: | |
<quote>"property values are usually shit near airports. Lots of noise. Lots of pollution. Who wants to right next to an airport?" <quote>
probably some of the people who pay upwards of a million dollars per lot to live ONE the airport in what are called AirParks...
if i could afford it, i would do the same thing. as it is, im only a renter not an owner (of an airplane) so theres no sense in me living on an airfield...
david |
Urbanize
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Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 904
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 - 11:59 am: | |
"isn't it just a better idea to make Transit to/from DTW to Downtown Detroit or Royal Oak or Pontiac better than starting up city airport agian."
Light Rail up Gratiot in other words isn't needed is what you meant? Tell that to people who commute from the NE side of the region every day. |
Ordinary
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Username: Ordinary
Post Number: 175
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:40 pm: | |
What does GA stand for? |
Cliff19336
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Username: Cliff19336
Post Number: 5
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:57 pm: | |
But what if City Airport could be developed into new housing, businesses, etc.? I'm not sure that the GA use is so critical that it would offset new development. I am not aware of any developement on the horizon, however. |
Cliff19336
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Username: Cliff19336
Post Number: 6
Registered: 02-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 - 2:59 pm: | |
GA stands for General Aviation. Non-scheduled service. |
Hornist9
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Username: Hornist9
Post Number: 27
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 12:32 pm: | |
in 1987 a twin engine Beech crashed on Toephfer Avenue in South Warren. The Beech was carrying auto parts, and the load shifted which in turn changed the center of gravity in the aircraft. It crashed 4 blocks due north of me. I heard the aircraft struggling to increase rpm on it's engines to make altitude and then silence. My windows began to shake and I heard the crash. I literally thought the damned thing had gone down in my back yard.
I rushed to my back door, (the plane was so low, it set of my motion detection spotlights) and saw a large plume of smoke. I heard sirens from the fire trucks and quickly got dressed, and ended up following the fire trucks as closely to the crash as I could. I saw the house, aircraft fully involved in fire. Two people died instantly, and two young children were orphaned that evening.
I went home quickly and reported the crash to Bob Hines who was doing the midnight show on WJR radio.
So after that day, I have no desire to see any commercial airline service to City airport. I remember when Southwest and that other "fly by night" company (that went belly up)flew into City and some of them did final approaches right over the top of my house. SCREW THAT CRAP!!! I want to be able to hear myself think.
I like to be able to sit on my patio in my back yard, smoke a cigar, drink a beer and listen to the Tigers games. I remember seeing those damned Southwest 737's fly so near the house, and wondering when one of the damned things was gonna go down. Southwest had made an agreement that they would use the newer 737's with the less noisy engines, but Shit!!!
As long as the city is in such horrendous condition, I don't think commercial service will happen again. Leastwise, that's what I'm hoping. |
Charlottepaul
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Username: Charlottepaul
Post Number: 806
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 1:37 pm: | |
Not in my backyard! |
Eric
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Username: Eric
Post Number: 774
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 3:04 pm: | |
What does transit to DTW have to do with City Airport anyway? |
3rdworldcity
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Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 603
Registered: 01-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:38 pm: | |
I used to fly out of City frequently on SWA. It was great; very convenient. I hate DFW but have to use it 20 - 25 times a year.
I would not be surprised to see the casinos start flying in gamblers from many cities up to 800 miles away.
I flew out of Lansing a couple weeks ago on a regularly scheduled carrier that flies only to Vegas, Tampa, and Orlando - Sandford. Allegiant Air. Most flights are to Vegas (it's headquartered there.) What I found amazing was that Allegiant flies regularly scheduled flights to Vegas from about 100 destinations across the country - small markets - such as So. Bend, Ft. Wayne, Fargo, Butte, Indianapolis, Dayton and many other places that barely have any scheduled commercial flights. The flights are cheap and it appears always full. They fly 737-37's configured w/ about 120 seats.
Our casinos have to do something creative to fill 1200 hotel rooms and my guess is they're going to bring 1000's of people a year thru City. Hope so. |