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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:37 pm: |    |
I don't know what would be involved in something like this, and I'm not sure how people might react to the suggestion, but I was pondering the idea of renaming Jefferson Ave. to highlight the street and the city's status as a waterfront city...
I was thinking, for example, about how Chicago and also Gross Pointe have "Lakeshore Dr." and how it's a prestigious address to have...
I don't know...maybe something like Riverfront Drive...
I know it's small potatoes, but it could make the avenue more attractive in the long term to land developers and businesses who can print the name on their cards and websites than a somewhat boring name like "Jefferson"...
Just a thought
(Message edited by thejesus on April 05, 2007) |
Charlottepaul
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:41 pm: | |
Atwater? Would that be a good name for it? |
Thejesus
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:43 pm: | |
I think Atwater II would get confusing |
Milwaukee
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:44 pm: | |
I like the name Jefferson, but changing it to Lake Shore drive would be cool too. It turns into Lake Shore Drive in the GP's, so it might make the whole street sound nice.
If you wanted to give the east side or the riverfront an all new image, you could change the name to Lake Shore drive. Lake Shore drive in Milwaukee and in Chicago are both lined with high rise apartments. Imagine if Detroit could do the same!
Detroit has a smaller Gold Coast than Milwaukee and you guys are 2.5x as big! |
Viziondetroit
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:44 pm: | |
I was thinking Riverfront Drive too |
Mackinaw
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:55 pm: | |
Lakeshore Drive would't make sense because it goes along a river, and most of the way the water isn't even in sight. Keep it Jefferson. |
Psip
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:57 pm: | |
"I don't know...maybe something like Riverfront Drive"
That usually implys that the road is adjacent to the river/water. If you were to look at a map, you would notice that at NO POINT is East Jefferson next to the water. There are streets between Jefferson and the water most of the way from Woodward to Cadeiux. (except a short distance at the MacArthur Bridge)
West Jefferson is. Was this the section of road you were talking about? (I hope) |
Thejesus
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:01 pm: | |
I agree, Lakeshore wouldn't make sense...
But it could be called Riverfront or something like that for the stretch downtown that does run along the river...and still be called Jefferson elsewhere
As we learned with Comerica, image plays a role in business...
I'd for one would feel much more confident giving an out of town client my business's address in the 150 W. Riverfront Dr. building rather than the 150 W. Jefferson building...
(Message edited by thejesus on April 05, 2007) |
Scs100
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:01 pm: | |
Judging by the Atwater post, I would guess East Jefferson. |
Thejesus
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:07 pm: | |
Psip:
I'm referring to W Jefferson and the stretch of E Jefferson that runs downtown...
I know it doesn't run right along the water....I was looking at a map when this idea came to me...but it's basically on the Detroit River, and the most of the building there have an unobstructed view of the water...
It's just one of those little insignificant things that can magically make an area more attractive a property value go up... |
Queensfinest
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:20 pm: | |
Thejesus, you want something less boring as a name for the road and you come up with "Riverfront Drive"?
Not trying to pick on you here, but for the whole process of renaming a major thoroughfare and expense of everything involved with that, couldn't we be a little more creative?
Something that relates to the uniqueness of the area or along the lines of something historical. I don't know, just my two cents...
Just a guess here, but there's probably a "Riverfront Drive" in practically every town near a river across America. |
Mbr
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:25 pm: | |
How About Coleman A. Young Riverfront Drive |
Rjk
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:33 pm: | |
If the city council gets its hands on this idea it'll be "Maryann Mahaffey Drive."
How about "Sally Hemings Drive?" |
Jjaba
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:38 pm: | |
No river frontage, no Riverside Drive.
Mackinaw 2648 tells it like it tis.
Thomas Jefferson was a fine fellow in American history. What's the problem with him?
Terrible idea.
jjaba. |
Jjaba
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:39 pm: | |
Thejesus, Canada has one. Go to Windsor and enjoy that one.
jjaba. |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:48 pm: | |
How about we name it Jefferson ave? That's a great idea. |
Ray1936
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:57 pm: | |
Methinks the wrong street got named "Grand River". Oh, well. |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:58 pm: | |
No. There was a Grand River that ran under/along the route. |
Jjaba
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 7:59 pm: | |
If no Grand River, there's no Grand River sub-station of the Detroit Times. Yikes, Ray1936!
jjaba, Westside newsboy. |
Rjk
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:00 pm: | |
Most people probably associate the street with George and Weezy more than they do Thomas.
How about naming that section "Weezy Way." It easily rolls of the tongue and I think it would be an easy sell. |
Oladub
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:05 pm: | |
"a somewhat boring name like "Jefferson"...???"
Jefferson was anything but boring. What is boring are the names given shopping centers. Lake Shore and Riverfront sound more like shopping malls. I guess the stated reason for the renaming is commerce.
Jefferson was a scientific genius. Unlike an unnamed President, Jefferson could construct sentences. He wrote the Declaration of Independence which states that it is our duty to abolish governments that deny our rights. It says that governments only exist to secure our rights. Read a Jefferson inspired Lewis and Clark biography. This was the Jefferson who attacked Tripoli pirates and was accompanied to France by Sally Heming. Black and white Americans have Jefferson in their veins. Boring?
What crowded Jefferson out of public school lessons? Some greater person? Teaching self esteem?
Jefferson even had a hand in the laying out of the Northwest Territories, Michigan's base line, and Detroit's street layout. Renaming Jefferson Ave. "Riverfront Drive" would be like renaming Tiger Stadium something like...Comerica Park. |
Scs100
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:10 pm: | |
Please don't turn this into a "We love Jefferson" thread. I don't want to recall other things that went on during his life. |
Rustic
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:14 pm: | |
Jeffersontown Ave? |
Gsgeorge
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:15 pm: | |
Riverside Drive |
Rustic
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:16 pm: | |
S Mile Rd? (pronounced Smile ...Say nice things about Detroit?) |
Oladub
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:20 pm: | |
Scs100 - Tories and Federalists share your pain. |
Scs100
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:25 pm: | |
I don't hate the guy. I just hate the constant glorification of him. He was a good president. But I hate the non-stop praise of him. (And half of this is my world history teacher refusing to not stop talking about him).
As for the street names, I have to go with Rustics. |
Gmich99
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:27 pm: | |
Detroit would be a great city once again if only Jefferson had a snappy name. Vacantuneducatedunemployedform ermortorcity Drive rolls off the the tongue nicely. |
Gsgeorge
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:30 pm: | |
Ribbon Farm Boulevard |
Yaktown
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:32 pm: | |
Lowell Boileau Memorial Parkway? |
Eric
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:34 pm: | |
quote:I know it's small potatoes, but it could make the avenue more attractive in the long term to land developers and businesses who can print the name on their cards and websites than a somewhat boring name like "Jefferson"...
I seriously doubt businesses or developers enter a streets name into the equation of whether to do business in an area. Unless streets name is shit stain avenue, they care more about traffic counts and demographics. |
56packman
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:43 pm: | |
Stop the pointless renaming of everything. |
Yaktown
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:45 pm: | |
What's wrong with Shitstain Avenue? I hear it's a nice place actually, although I've noticed a lot of corn and beans there. Recently they had a power outage...well a brownout really. |
Viziondetroit
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:47 pm: | |
I think Frank Hart- Stanley Knox Promenade would be nice |
Ray1936
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:18 pm: | |
"Please don't turn this into a "We love Jefferson" thread. I don't want to recall other things that went on during his life."
Okay. How about Millard Filmore Boulevard? |
Scs100
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:27 pm: | |
LOL @ Ray1939! Nice. Really classic. (Truthfully) |
Missnmich
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:29 pm: | |
No. There was a Grand River that ran under/along the route.
No. It was the road to the Grand River, Michigan's longest river |
Charlottepaul
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:30 pm: | |
Could at least stick with the French heritage and call it "commande de rive;" "riverside drive" in English. |
Harsensis
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:32 pm: | |
I'm with Mackinaw, you can't see the river so keep it Jefferson. |
Milwaukee
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:00 pm: | |
Possible options...
Grosse Pointe Road
Detroit Avenue
Belle Isle Avenue
Detroit River Parkway (tear up all those surface lots and plant trees)
Renaissance Avenue
Wisconsin Avenue (One of Milwaukee's main streets in Michigan, you can pay us back)  |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:01 pm: | |
I don't like none of those (particularly the last one) We already have a street named after your city. Be grateful for that. HOW have y'all payed us back for it? MMM HMM. |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:04 pm: | |
If anything (which I'm not hyped up about) they should rename Jefferson Riverside ave. or dr. or Riverview ave. or dr. |
Jerome81
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:27 pm: | |
How about:
Little Atwater?
Greater Atwater? :D
Oooo, I know, how about Rosa Parks Ave? We already have Rosa Parks Blvd, Rosa Parks Transit Center, and Rosa Parks Freeway. |
Waxx
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 11:36 pm: | |
I was thinking, [Thomas] Jefferson (already taken)
Coleman A. Young Hwy. (already thought of)
Riverfront (already thought of)
How 'bout E. Jefferson from Woodward on out Lakeshore Drive, and W. Jefferson form Woodward on out Biddle Ave? (yeah right!)
Chevrolet, anyone? (it could happen)
Grand Prix (Don't we have ENOUGH streets subtitled 'Grand' as it is?!?)
Monte Carlo (even worse, I'm bettin')
This is ALL lame, I know, but right now my brain is fried on this thread and I can't think of anything else. Other than that, I'm just thinkin' out loud here. |
Jjaba
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:12 am: | |
Urbanize, Riverview taken as Riverview Amusement Park on Lawrence Ave. in Chicago.
WAXX, Grand Prix is in Pontiac, sorry.
jjaba. |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:15 am: | |
Ok, does "Riverside avenue or drive" sound better? I just naming suggestions here. There may be cross referencing with other cities. So what. At least they're decent names compared to Washington's Alphabet streets. |
Jjaba
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:28 am: | |
Careful urbanize. Detroit has lettered streets.
(Westside)
jjaba. |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:33 am: | |
"Careful urbanize. Detroit has lettered streets."
There is a difference. Washington goes right in alphabetical order with theres down the whole list (B and K ave). We have more so "numerical" streets (7 Mile and 20 Mile). |
Urbanize
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 12:33 am: | |
"Careful urbanize. Detroit has lettered streets."
There is a difference. Washington goes right in alphabetical order with theres down the whole list (B and K ave). We have more so "numerical" streets (7 Mile and 20 Mile). I always thought that Detroit street names were unique in a way (some just lazy though). |
Psip
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 1:45 am: | |
Urbanize you almost hit it!
-.5 Mile Road! |
Gistok
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 2:16 am: | |
Well I don't care what people say... JEFFERSON AVE. has been there at least 150 years, possibly 200 years.
Before Judge Woodward laid out his downtown grid in 1805-06 the main road along the water was called "RIVER ROAD".
And since his grid, they called it Jefferson. We also have Adams, Washington, Monrue, and Madison streets in Detroit, all named after early presidents.
Thomas Jefferson was president of the USA when Judge Woodward designed the new Detroit street system. To change the name after nearly 2 centuries does a great disservice to a great president... who happened to be the author of the Declaration of Independence.
So Nuff said, leave it!! |
48202
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 2:19 am: | |
You have all missed the obvious.
Change the name to ITSJEFFerson Ave. |
Gtat44
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 1:12 pm: | |
Let's see how about
Emily Gail Drive
Kilpatrick Parkway
Basil Brown Blvd.
Dennis Archer Ave.
Kenneth Weiner Way
I agree with Gistok |
Iheartthed
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 2:00 pm: | |
"Just a guess here, but there's probably a 'Riverfront Drive' in practically every town near a river across America."
Including Detroit... |
Zephyrprocess
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| | Posted on Friday, April 06, 2007 - 2:54 pm: | |
quote:You have all missed the obvious.
Change the name to ITSJEFFerson Ave. Well that's what we can call it here, whether it's official or not! |
Panther036
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 12:31 am: | |
S Mile Rd? (pronounced Smile ...Say nice things about Detroit?)
-LMAO |
Bulletmagnet
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| | Posted on Saturday, April 07, 2007 - 12:44 am: | |
Why do we need to rename any street? Is there no respect for (Detroit) history here? |