Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 851 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 5:04 pm: | |
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll /article?AID=/20070405/BUSINES S06/70405037 OU, Beaumont Hospitals to build medical school April 5, 2007 By PATRICIA ANSTETT FREE PRESS MEDICAL WRITER Oakland University and Beaumont Hospitals announced today they will create a new privately funded medical school on the OU campus in Rochester, starting in 2010. The facility will begin with 50 students and eventually grow to 200. At a media briefing early this afternoon, officials announced they had jointly filed a letter with the national accreditation authority for medical education programs, the Liaison Committee for Medical Education, to create a allopathic school. Allopathic schools train students in what's termed Western medicine toward MD degrees. “Studies show that there is a looming shortage of physicians, nationally and especially in Michigan,” said Dr. Anannias Diokno, executive vice president and chief medical officer at Beaumont. “This new medical school will help fill the gap and will also enhance medical care throughout the region by attracting top level medical leaders and medical students from around the country to our area.” |
Homer Member Username: Homer
Post Number: 149 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 5:47 pm: | |
Do you have a Beaumont Doctor? No,they are way the Frick out in the OC. Oh well I'm happy with Henry Ford. |
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248
Post Number: 475 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 5:57 pm: | |
WSU better get its act together... |
Yaktown Member Username: Yaktown
Post Number: 145 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:17 pm: | |
Sounds like good news but I hope once the students graduate they don't bolt for Florida, Nevada, etc. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 855 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:18 pm: | |
my take: this is another step in the right direction , i.e., moving away from an uneducated manufacturing labor force towards an educated service-based one... |
Adamjab19 Member Username: Adamjab19
Post Number: 766 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 6:20 pm: | |
I wonder what impact this has on the MSU move to Southeast Michigan. OU must have been out of the running for that program. This area has the potential to gain many many new physicians if the MSU deal goes through somehwere else as well. MSU was expected to add 200 some students. Currently dusting off my MCAT study guide.... |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 272 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 10:38 pm: | |
Wow!! A shocker announcement is what we have here. It will start to put pressure on WSU as the sole medical school in the city. Form an applicants point of view it is a near no brainer....WSU in urban Detroit with an unresolved war between the 2 constituents (WSU and DMC), and an exodus of Physicians, teachers, and patients...versus a suburban school working together with a huge medical center with tons of Physicians and patients...easy call. Here may be the rub though; this new hospital will be private, so the tuition is likely to be astronomical (40-50K a year). Versus WSU at 15-20K. |
Ortho313 Member Username: Ortho313
Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 3:54 pm: | |
These rumors have been around since last year right around the time OU made the NCAA tourney. Its actually been slow developing. Applications shouldn't change. Undergrads who want to be doctors will do anything to go to med school. Tufts was $45k, estimated additional $10k cost of living. That was ranked the highest in '06. You need to go down the list a bit to find schools that either aren't in primo locals (Boston, NY, Cali) or big names. Wouldn't be surprised to see $30-35k to start. They list WSU as $24,605 in-state, $49,417 out of state, and $19,256 cost of living http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/brief/sb_med_cost_private_brief.php http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/brief/sb_med_cost_public_brief.php (Message edited by Ortho313 on April 08, 2007) (Message edited by Ortho313 on April 08, 2007) |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 871 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 5:35 pm: | |
I hope the powers that be don't sit on this an cause it to end up in Clinton Township...both Detroit locations being considered would be great Sunday, April 8, 2007 Education OU withdraws satellite campus offer for MSU medical school; other locations still in play By Sherri Begin 4:49 pm, April 5, 2007 Oakland University has withdrawn its offer to host a satellite campus for Michigan State University’s College of Osteopathic Medicine in light of its plan to launch a medical school on its campus with William Beaumont Hospitals. Oakland University could not be reached for immediate comment, but William Strampel, dean of the MSU college, said the Rochester Hills university withdrew its offer Thursday morning. “I fully understand that … Oakland University wanted to move forward,” Strampel said. “They had an opportunity that came up, and our people were still discussing the options when this came up.” But MSU’s plans to put a satellite osteopathic campus in Southeast Michigan remain unchanged, he said. “Michigan is still going to be short physicians, and we still think a satellite campus in Southeast Michigan is good for the state, the university and the Detroit metro area.” MSU’s board of trustees is considering three other local sites for the satellite campus: * The Detroit Medical Center’s Hutzel Hospital. * St. John Health System’s Detroit Riverview Hospital. * Macomb Community College’s University Center in Clinton Township. http://www.crainsdetroit.com/a pps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/2007 0405/REG/70405014/1013 |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 282 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 9:34 pm: | |
Here is the potential dynamic as I see it (from the point of view of a former prospective Med student): OU; New, real world teachers as faculty (surviving private practice at WBH), no scandals, no probation, or threat of same from regulatory bodies, no rumors of abandonement by sponsors, an opportunity to network with real world Doc's that might be looking for future associates/partners, beautiful campus/location, decent mix of patients (not just super rich as many believe),and a 1300-1400 bed capacity running 85% full. Downsides? Not so many...likely a bear to get into (top 10 percentile on MCATS/GPA/Extras, and costing a fortune is a pretty big deal though. WSU/DMC; Reverse everything positive about OU 180 degrees for your negatives, add a tarnished reputation, and there you are. Positives? Cheaper, and relatively easier to get into. Purely based on preference, the prospective student that doesn't rank OU by far ahead of WSU has got to have a screw loose. In reality, UofM may have more to lose than WSU. Those that don't get in, will consider WSU (although, recently, if I were in that position, I would be looking out of state before WSU right now). |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 325 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:41 pm: | |
Why do all these supposed advantages for a Beaumont medical school not translate into greater prestige for the (few) current Beaumont residencies? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 287 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 11:48 pm: | |
Good point, and a major reason for Beaumont to pursue a new medical school. Locally, Beaumont is fairly renowned (deserved, or undeserved...but that is a whole other topic). Nationally however, they are small potatoes. Only University/Med school affiliated medical centers have the reach to gain national recognition. With a battle for hospital services looming by virtue of Henry Fords' new hospital in West Bloomfield, and St. John/Providences' in Novi, Beaumont has a fight on its' hands (starting July 08). The opponents do not have a medical school in their corner (much as they might like to), so Beaumont stands to rise above the competition in public perception by virtue of this distinction. BTW, Beaumont has more than "a few" training programs with IM, FP(at Troy), OB/Gyn, Ortho, Radiology, Peds, Cardiology and superspecialty cardiology, GI, PM@R, Endocrine, Psych, Urology, ENT (I think), and probably others that I am forgetting. (Message edited by ccbatson on April 08, 2007) |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1196 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 9:28 am: | |
MSU's Osteopathic Satelite will end up on the DMC campus. The St. John deal will be off the table soon and I doubt they will move to a community college campus in Clinton Twp. It's all about politics afterall and Duggan is a politician. |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 326 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:59 am: | |
http://trustees.msu.edu/mcnama ra.html |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 288 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:53 pm: | |
Duggan is a very dirty politician. MSU turning a blind eye to the DMCs' history most recently including attempted murder of its' current medical school partner, WSU (which is a crime still inprogress/not definitively resolved), is beyond stupid. As such, they (MSU) will deserve what they get (shafted) if they make this mistake. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 289 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:54 pm: | |
Zephyr; what is the point of that link? |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1198 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 8:47 am: | |
I wonder why the story about Oakland and Beaumont broke now. It wasn't suppose to be announced until Summer. |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 327 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:26 pm: | |
Why the link? Crew notedquote:It's all about politics afterall and Duggan is a politician. MSU Trustee Colleen McNamara is Ed McNamara's daughter. Mike Duggan used to be Ed McNamara's right hand. |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 328 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:28 pm: | |
quote:I wonder why the story about Oakland and Beaumont broke now. The information became public when the institutions filed with the LCME |
Crew Member Username: Crew
Post Number: 1205 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 3:56 pm: | |
gotcha. Any other big announcements in the works? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 291 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 8:42 pm: | |
Ahh...nothing like croniism and nepotism in from the Michigan Democrats. |