  Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 242 Registered: 11-2006 |
My lady friend and I visited the Plantarium ( Belle Isle Conservatory)and riverside at Belle Isle today. The outing was enjoyable but it was a shame to see the disrepair; pollution; graffiti and vandalism: It really surprised me that the restroom near the Plantetarium was in decent shape. Anyways, while strolling the park, I got to thinking, what would happen if Belle Isle was purchased and managed by Canada? I imagined the bridge on the Detroit side being closed with a replica of the bridge running to Canada. If Americans had to enter from the Canadian side they would be concious of visiting another country and may be more inclined to behave. The park would hopefully be full of Canadians so the overall vibe and atmosphere would be laid back and positive. The loud offensive music, drunken brawling and other pettiness would not be tolerated. Interracial couples and openly gay visitors would probably feel much more comfortable and welcome. The island would feel much cleaner and safer. Of course there are territorial and other complexities to consider, but I can't help but imagine the potential the park has as a recreational destination. (Message edited by Terryh on April 02, 2007) (Message edited by Terryh on April 02, 2007) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 524 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Of course there are territorial and other complexities to consider, but I can't help but imagine the potential the park has as a recreational destination." Exactly what my response would of been. Now if Canada and the U.S. could agree on some type of maintenance and territorial deal, it would never happen. | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2282 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Are you suggesting the Canadians are inherently superior to Americans? Or that Belle Isle needs a major cleaning-up? | ||
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 67 Registered: 12-2006 |
and how exactly would shipping pass through the "replica bridge" from Canada? | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 244 Registered: 11-2006 |
Not inherently superior just that overall Canadian society is better as far as attitudes behaviour, respect etc. The history is different. There seems to be more respect for private and personal property. There would be less racial antagonism if Canada managed the park. The Police would be more laid back, less rude and authoritarian. Im not sure Belle Isle can be maintained and clened up by the city of Detroit. I know this isn't a politically correct statement but the fact of the matter is many of the visitors of the park come from impoverished social environments and don't have the best social skills. My perception. | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4295 Registered: 10-2003 |
Plus Canada has had a major influx of Asian immigrants. Terryh likes the unusually young Asian girls. A sort-of hetero Ken Groulay. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 245 Registered: 11-2006 |
True @ El Jimbo. The bridge would have to be demolished . | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 1052 Registered: 11-2003 |
lol @ more inclined to behave. I'm not even going to post an in depth reply. | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 745 Registered: 11-2004 |
I think I'm a few IQ points dumber after reading that mess. Maybe you should do something productive like join in a cleanup of BI instead of daydreaming half baked, BS "ideas". | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2283 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: I've been in plenty of urban parks in various cities that were clean and well-run. This sounds like a local issue. I'm not sure you'd be able to convince Congress that this is a good idea. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 790 Registered: 09-2005 |
Would Belle Isle be a better place if it was part of Canada? Who knows for sure, but the answer would probably be yes. As far as a sale of the island to Canada, I do not think the US gov't is in that type of business. Furthermore, the island is a lot closer to Detroit than it is to Windsor. One would have to take a boat to get there from Windsor (the bridge not being an option). Belle Isle would have a better chance of becoming an American national park than part of Canada. (Message edited by upinottawa on April 02, 2007) | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2938 Registered: 10-2004 |
Listening on CKLW to all the thug attacks going on in Windsor leads me to believe that there ain't much difference between the D and W. I needn't visit Canada in order to get beat up when it can be done here for free... | ||
Danjo444 Member Username: Danjo444 Post Number: 33 Registered: 02-2007 |
"The Police would be more laid back, less rude and authoritarian." Huh? (Or should I say Eh?) I could tell stories about how the OPP-Cops used to hassle us every time we were in the Pinery and Grand Bend, even when we were being "laid back and positive." Something to do with our licence plates? Also curious about "many of the visitors of the park come from impoverished social environments and don't have the best social skills." Can you elaborate? | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2285 Registered: 10-2003 |
If you really want to clean up Belle Isle, why not make it part of the HCMA, to which Detroiters already pay taxes? | ||
Gsgeorge Member Username: Gsgeorge Post Number: 118 Registered: 08-2006 |
quote: Now there's an idea. forget giving my precious BI to the fucking canadians. Make it a national park and put some federal dollars into cleaning our park up. | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 396 Registered: 03-2006 |
Terryh- Why stop at Belle Isle, based on your logic maybe we should turn over the entire US to Canada! Unfortunately the rule of law would collapse world wide because nobody is afraid of a bunch of socialist pussies. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 662 Registered: 11-2003 |
The Gateway Arch Belle Island Bridge from Canada. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4028 Registered: 08-2004 |
LOL... surprised nobody caught this BUT... Belle Isle DOES NOT even have a Planetarium....  Why on God's green earth would Detroit want to relinquish one of its crown jewels... Just so Terry would like to be able to bring his interracial "ladies" to a Canadian Island... where a lack of African-Americans males will mean that he will get less of "the stare"?? What other useful purpose would there be to remove Belle Isle from Detroit's control... ZIPPO! (Message edited by Gistok on April 02, 2007) | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2286 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: What a stellar precedent. How many other parks will the City of Detroit neglect if the NPS were to take over Belle Isle? NPS is underfunded as it is--they don't want another liability on their hands. Belle Isle is a local concern. If the City of Detroit doesn't want to take care of it, then the HCMA of the State of Michigan should buy the land outright. The federal government can't go around bailing out every city that fails to meet its obligations. What next--the U.S. DOT takes over DDOT??? | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 246 Registered: 11-2006 |
Just dreaming guys. Join a cleaning up of Belle Isle? So it can be trashed again in a few months. No crack here Erin. I have to much of a zest for life to mess with that mess. Ive been sober for 10 years and found I can have a nice time without substances. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 4192 Registered: 10-2003 |
Terry, would it be alright if we sold you to the Canadians? | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 247 Registered: 11-2006 |
Lol @ Patrick. | ||
Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1174 Registered: 02-2004 |
Once the bridge is demolished, Belle Isle would be free to float. I'm sure the Canadians have a tug boat they can use to tow the Island closer to Windsor. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2939 Registered: 10-2004 |
quote: He probably is Canadian or just another lousy speller at DY... | ||
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge Post Number: 344 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm still wondering where he visited on Belle Isle, since as Gistok pointed out, there is no Planetarium. Perhaps the reason the bathrooms near the Planetarium were so clean was because he accidently wandered 20 miles off to Cranbrook. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2941 Registered: 10-2004 |
Maybe he just pretends to live near or visit Detroit. Wouldn't be the first. Even a few regulars here carry on so. | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6225 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Big difference is we generally only use our fists. You can wake up from a beating. Gun shots, not so much. quote: I don't generally do this, but in this case I'll speak on behalf of Canada and all Canadians. No thanks. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 248 Registered: 11-2006 |
I meant to write the building with all the exotic plants and gardens. The PLANTERIUM. The garden place or whatever you want to call it. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 2241 Registered: 07-2004 |
Well since we will eventually invade Canada and take over the point seems moot............Canada is wasting vast natural resources. As for this idiotic myth that Canadians are somehow inherently wiser or more dignified or whatever bullshit I am reading here I relate this: I had a friend.He was a working musician. There were areas of Canada that he would play, bars mostly, where he would not stay in the motel. This was because of the stuff going on in the motel.He would sleep in the car. Is there anything less than Candadian white trash? I am sure Canada is an ok place but frankly I am sick of hearing how Canada has some sort of moral loftiness over the U.S._ It's bullshit. | ||
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100 Post Number: 687 Registered: 12-2006 |
Terry, I believe you meant the Belle Isle Conservatory. | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1183 Registered: 12-2005 |
Ohhh Yaaah, thaaat'd be pretty good, Eh? Oh, and hey, they could put a Tim Horton's on the island and make plenty of dollors, eh? | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 603 Registered: 11-2005 |
and how exactly would shipping pass through the "replica bridge" from Canada? Yeah, what he (or she) said. | ||
Terryh Member Username: Terryh Post Number: 249 Registered: 11-2006 |
Belle Isle Conservatory! Yes! | ||
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider Post Number: 300 Registered: 08-2006 |
The metro parks could do just as good of a job as Canada. What about if Essex Co. was annexed to the US imagine the economic boom and ease of building some more crossings. The population would boom there I believe. Plus I think that the American culture would benefit the city and area since our people are so accepting and good people except that we sometimes play our radios to loud. | ||
Tigers2005 Member Username: Tigers2005 Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2005 |
Perfectgentleman, That didn't sound like something a perfect gentleman would say. When you say "nobody is afraid of a bunch of socialist pussies", did you ever consider that maybe they want it that way? I'm not a Canadian, but I live close enough to see it and have a great appreciation for the different attitude of Canadians. I'm not saying it's a better attitude, just different. It seems that most of the Canadians that I have met (which is a lot) have a totally different set of priorities than most of us from the U.S. and A. I don't like to generalize, but Canadians seem to not be nearly as caught up in measuring how much "stuff" they have as compared with one another. Canadians seem to place more value on enjoying themselves rather than killing themselves to buy a 3000 square foot McMansion with a perfectly manicured lawn and two perfect children who probably hate their parents. I get sick of hearing Americans talk as if our way is the only way, and f*ck Canada if they don't go starting wars all over the globe. I love America and I love Canada. I say let America be America and let Canada be Canada. | ||
Kathinozarks Member Username: Kathinozarks Post Number: 343 Registered: 11-2006 |
TerryH said: Just dreaming guys. Join a cleaning up of Belle Isle? So it can be trashed again in a few months. I've been running into this very situation. I and a small group have 'adopted' a street in order to pick up trash that flies out of cars and open truck beds along the road. This is a program with our City Street Department. We are only required to pick up trash 4 times a year. They put up signs at either end of the stretch that says "This street adopted by......". Here's the thing: One hour after pick up you will see a new piece of trash. Two days later, lots more. We have picked up trash along that road twice a month since the summer. We end up with at least four 20 pound bags. I'm not complaining at all. We are doing a service for our city. There is no stopping flying paper cups, fast food boxes/bags, cigarette boxes, etc. Picking up litter is a constant. Keep a plastic bag in your car (even a small walmart one) and if you see trash and you can stop your car safely for a moment, pick it up. If you go for a walk take a bag. Sometimes strangers in cars will drive by and wave and smile a 'thank you'. It does become a habit once you start. Please don't wait for 'someone else' to do it. Let's not only look for volunteers, let's BE volunteers. I wish I could help at Belle Isle. It would be very fulfilling for me - but do know that I'm trying to do a small part in my neck of the woods. | ||
Erikto Member Username: Erikto Post Number: 536 Registered: 11-2003 |
Perfect Gentleman, kindly address your idiotic remarks to CL's friend who is scared of Canadian motels. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8805 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Enough with this silly commentary. The city approached HMCA about help or selling and HMCa politely said, F' off. As it stands the city sends around $5MM to HMCA and get approximately $50K in 'programming' back. Now with all of the silliness and misinformation posted here I ask you to think about Central Park in NY. KNow how much NYC pays to maintain it: $0. It is funded and maintained by private donations. If only the city could divert the $5MM from HMCA to BI, imagine how wonderful it could be. I ask from here on out anyone that thinks HMCA should help should call HMCA. I have and they stated they have no money to help. Please check into the situation before making baseless claims. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8806 Registered: 10-2003 |
PS - Please see the remembering BI thread for the info on the clean up day. Of couse it is easier to bitch and wait for others to do something as opposed to helping. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 222 Registered: 05-2006 |
Yesterday on Belle Isle.         . | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2517 Registered: 11-2003 |
If the HCMA is paying $50k to maintain their zoo on the north end of Belle Isle, I'll be impressed. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 171 Registered: 11-2005 |
I write from Canada--Belle Isle is a beautiful treasure--Detroit, and Michigan, should be proud of it. As Canadians living close to it, we should consider ourselves fortunate to be able to share in it's beauty. What gets me down is that one misinformed dickweed who starts an incendiary thread is used as an excuse for posters on here to piss back and forth on each other, and on each other's countries. Detroit is fantastic, so is Windsor. As for Americans and Canadians I think we're the two best sets of people on the planet--and in this area we're lucky to live so close to each other. For the record Canadians that do have a superiority complex embarass me--to those American posters fired up about that fact--please understand we aren't all that way. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 172 Registered: 11-2005 |
To add--great overall attitude Tigers2005--and really, who gives a shit, it's baseball season dammit! | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5724 Registered: 02-2004 |
Belle Isle belongs to Detroit forever. I want Canada to give up the southern part of Herson's Island. It's closer to Michigan than Canada. | ||
Miketoronto Member Username: Miketoronto Post Number: 519 Registered: 07-2004 |
Belle Isle does not need to be managed by Canada. Detroit is doing a great job on its own, through a citizens run conservancy. You guys might be interested in hearing that I actually contacted Toronto Parks and Rec department after visiting Detroit last Jan, and told them that I wish they would look at Detroit as an example of how to clean up parks. I was really impressed with the Belle Isle Conservancy, and how they cleaned up the conservatory. I told Toronto we should have programs like that. So just give it time. The conservancy has fixed up the conservatory, and now they will work on other parts of the park. It will take time, but it will get done. Other cities with funding issues are doing the same thing. Buffalo has a non-profit conservancy that manages 70% of the parks system(the Olmstead Parks system), and they have had great success in restoring and reviving the parks system. For more info check out the Friends of Belle Isle. http://www.fobi.org/ | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2289 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: What misinformation and baseless claims were posted? Maybe you shouldn't be posting at 1:11 AM. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8807 Registered: 10-2003 |
Baseless claims that HMCA could or would help. People continue to say that the city needs to allow HCMA to take over BI. The city has approached them and they flat out refused. Baseless claim in my book. I was at home putting together a presentation for work at 1:11 AM. What are you implying? | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2290 Registered: 10-2003 |
I never claimed that HMCA could or would help. They should be given the opportunity, though. If this has already been done, and HMCA said "no", then it's a moot point, isn't it? It's a damn shame, though, that Detroit has to subsidize such a vast suburban park system, and see almost nothing in return. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8808 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: That was my poing but I stumbled through the wording. Granted Detroiters have access to HCMA parks but 30% of Detroiters have no access to a car. There is a .2Mill tax for HCMA. As I see it, Detroiters paying this tax is akin to us subsidizing parks that many Detroiters can't get to and those that can must drive 20 miles or so to the nearest one (Not sure on the distance). That is why I have a problem with the structure of the HCMA tax. We can't afford to maintain our parks but we are paying to keep parks throughout the metro region. If Detroit could divert the money we send to HCMA we could have our parks maintained much, much better than they are today. | ||
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik Post Number: 168 Registered: 01-2007 |
Nice pix Ramcharger. I don't think Belle Isle will ever be as clean as Disney Land. The only problem with Belle Isle, like most things in Detroit, is it is NOT promoted at all. Belle Isle has the OLDEST conservatory ("planetarium") and the OLDEST public aquarium in the COUNTRY and they are NEXT to each other. Belle Isle itself was designed by the same guy that designed New York's Central Park. Very few people, longtime Detroiter's included, know any of this. | ||
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider Post Number: 307 Registered: 08-2006 |
Ramcharger were you by the lagoon around 3:30 walking by yourself on that trail where they restored the plant life. | ||
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider Post Number: 308 Registered: 08-2006 |
Danny all of Harsens Island is in MI. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 5729 Registered: 02-2004 |
No Fareastsider Canada owns 5% of Harsens Island on the SW side. We Michiganders want it back because its near U.S. waters. Canada owns too many island already. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4032 Registered: 08-2004 |
Anyway, Jt1, I vaguely remember the HCMA being asked, but not any of the details. Wasn't that under Mayor Young? And do we really know the details that caused them to say NO? I think that there may be much more to them saying NO, than you or I know about. Perhaps the stipulation was NO ENTRANCE FEE? Can you see CAY and the City Council agreeing to an entrance fee? In which case, who can blame HCMA for saying NO? | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2522 Registered: 11-2003 |
Now, I'm curious. If the HCMA wanted nothing to do with the island, why put up the zoo? | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 581 Registered: 04-2006 |
"Anyway, Jt1, I vaguely remember the HCMA being asked, but not any of the details. Wasn't that under Mayor Young? And do we really know the details that caused them to say NO? I think that there may be much more to them saying NO, than you or I know about. " I thought it was under Archer. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 665 Registered: 11-2003 |
The one thing I vividly recall about the BI/HCMA issue is the very loud objections from the citizens of Detroit anytime this issue came up. It was always painted as outsiders (White people) coming in and taking over a city jewel. Was there ever the political will to hand over BI to the HCMA? | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4034 Registered: 08-2004 |
OK, Archer then... but HCMA probably didn't want to bother with all the city politics involved with it. I can hear it now... "hidden agenda"... "selling off our jewels"... "privatizing"... "selling out to the suburbs".... If Archer couldn't get the move to the former GM Building to go forward (something that most folks outside of city government employees didn't care about), then what makes anyone sure that he could have sold City Council on a HCMA Belle Isle operations... Jt1, you are venting your anger at the wrong people! There was no way then, nor is there any way now that City Council will allow HCMA operate Belle Isle AND charge admittance. I can hear the public outcry on that one already... IIRC, the talk in the City Council back then was that Belle Isle could charge admissions to non-residents, but city folks should still get in free. HCMA balked. And for the Belle Isle Zoo... It is not operated by HCMA. The main zoo and (IIRC) Belle Isle Zoo are now independently operated outside of City Government... although still city owned. And neither is HCMA operated or funded. | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2523 Registered: 11-2003 |
Why is their logo prominently displayed on the sign in front of the building? | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 6228 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Danny, check again. Even if it was partly in Canada, nothing is dumber than Point Roberts, WA | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2513 Registered: 10-2003 |
Gistok there is a New Belle Isle nature zoo that is run by HCMA. It was opened on the east end of the island a couple of years ago. This has no connection to the old Belle Isle zoo. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 223 Registered: 05-2006 |
quote: No, I was in the Conservatory (with Professor Plum) at 3:30. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 4035 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thanks Ndavies! I was thinking of the old Belle Isle Zoo... I assume that it's just the natural flora and fauna that HCMA has in many of their other parks. Is it really a Zoo (fences)? Or just an open nature area? | ||
Mcp001 Member Username: Mcp001 Post Number: 2528 Registered: 11-2003 |
I haven't been inside of it yet, but it looks like both. | ||
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson Post Number: 265 Registered: 11-2006 |
I had no idea parts of our country was for sale to other countries. However, if you are serious, I am sure someone (not a foreign government...however, somebody from a foreign country would be eligible) could offer to buy the land from the owners (the city of Detroit) and if it was enough money, it could be sold and the new owner could do with it as they please (within the laws of the US). | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 221 Registered: 07-2005 |
Danny, you are probably talking about seaway island that is mainly used for dredging spoils. The reason it is Canadian, is that it wasn't originally it's own island like that. The shipping channel was dug out in the 60's to straighten the path since the original channel curved so much. There isn't a whole lot that can be done with that island, so why fight over it. And Harsens Island is fully in the US even though some people there have tried to say otherwise to avoid paying taxes. The courts did say it was US and everyone had to pay thier tax bill. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 541 Registered: 02-2007 |
The U.S. giving Belle Isle to Canada is like Canada giving Niagara Falls to the U.S. In a nutshell, they're both very stupid ideas to say the least. | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 43 Registered: 12-2006 |
This is a belated "April Fool's" thread, right? Terry, next time you and your lady friend want to go somewhere really different, I'll take you to MY lovely little border town: "While dodging drug lords, snipers and kidnappers in Nuevo Laredo, Mexico, I got to thinking: what would happen if it was purchased and managed by Canada?" Give Ottawa a ring and see what they say! Once Detroit diversifies its industrial base and brings more and varied industries here, everything will come around. I'm sure of it. I saw it happen in Houston during the oil bust. I've lived in a lot of different places, including Europe. Believe me, there's no people like Detroit people. You make Detroit sound like a charity case, which it is not, and no matter how hard times are, never will be. Detroiters make things, all right. But above all else they make...and re-make themselves, and their city. They've done it before, and they'll do it again. Under no circumstances, underestimate the city or its people. If anyone can do it with sheer will and determination, they can...up to and including preserving, maintaining and improving Belle Isle. You are lucky to have Detroit on the other side of YOUR border, Terry. Wise up and count your blessings. | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 287 Registered: 10-2005 |
Ramcharger-beautiful pics and thank you for sharing them. Reminds me how nice Belle Isle is and what a great asset to the city. What time of day do you take them? I am just curious because I didn't see anyone strolling around??? It looked like a great day. | ||
Fastcarsfreedom Member Username: Fastcarsfreedom Post Number: 173 Registered: 11-2005 |
Eastsidedame--RIGHT ON--I said it yesterday, I'll say it again--I'm glad you are our neighbor. | ||
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa Post Number: 793 Registered: 09-2005 |
Fastcars, isn't that "neighbour"...? | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 1291 Registered: 11-2005 |
People would not want to take a passport to get to Belle Isle. Dumb idea. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 224 Registered: 05-2006 |
Thanks, Jjw. This probably wasn’t the best thread in which to post them, but I thought it might be useful to see the topic of the conversation. I was on the island from about 3:00 PM until 4:30 PM. I spent most of it around the Conservatory and the Dossin museum, however. I was driving a red PT Cruiser with flames; hard to miss; lol. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 544 Registered: 02-2007 |
EassideDame, the person who came up with this thread WAS REALLY serious. It's not a belated AFD jokes, because it came immediately the following day. | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 931 Registered: 11-2003 |
Urbanize wrote, "...like Canada giving Niagara Falls to the U.S." Remember, the U.S. already controls some of Niagara Falls. Canada has the larger portion (Horseshoe Falls). | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 551 Registered: 02-2007 |
"Remember, the U.S. already controls some of Niagara Falls. Canada has the larger portion (Horseshoe Falls)." That was my point Burnsie. Even Americans would argue that the better side of NF is in Canada. Also, I'm sure they take care of a lot of the Maintenance and Security. | ||
Eastsidedame Member Username: Eastsidedame Post Number: 46 Registered: 12-2006 |
Urbanize: I was being facetious. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1974 Registered: 06-2004 |
REMINDER: Admittance to Dossin is FREE for the rest of the year! | ||
Msartlit Member Username: Msartlit Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2007 |
The grass is always greener on the other side. Detroit looks pretty from Windsor, Windsor looks pretty from Detroit. Sometimes in order to appreciate what we have we need to step back and take a look from a different perspective. |
