  Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8674 Registered: 10-2003 |
I see Gettlefinger is already stating that, if necessary they would consider striking. With all of the griping about executive and leadership pay I am curious how much he makes. How much does other UAW leadership pay. I can't seem to find it on line. I would think that for the sake of transparency it would be publsihed. Anyone have any idea? How hypocritical is he being if at all? | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1139 Registered: 04-2006 |
ummm don't UAW workers make Cars?  Actually I would assume its pretty good dough. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8675 Registered: 10-2003 |
I meant more Gettlefinger and his direct reports and leadership team. It seems hypocritical if they are going to rally against what the auto leadership make but not divuldge what they make. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8676 Registered: 10-2003 |
Never mind - found it. Looks like he makes about $145K. Seems to be pretty fair given his responsibilities. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1933 Registered: 06-2004 |
easier to find if you spell his name correctly - (EL not LE) June 14, 2006 Car Connection: The delegates also voted Gettelfinger a raise. Effective March 1, 2007, Gettelfinger's salary will increase by three percent to $144,733. In addition, the pay of Secretary/Treasurer Elizabeth Bunn also was boosted by three percent to $133,891 and the salary of the union's five vice presidents was boosted to $129,656 | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 552 Registered: 11-2005 |
What do UAW leaders make? A. Too much. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8679 Registered: 10-2003 |
I think given the responsibility that he has RG's salary is pretty fair. I would even say he is probably underpaid. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 450 Registered: 05-2005 |
ok, may I ask? Why are you deeming the UAW leaders pay too much but I have seen some here defend the high pay of the CEO's of the car companies? Now they really are over paid. | ||
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk Post Number: 553 Registered: 11-2005 |
I agree with you, miss cleo. For the record, I am a dues-paying union member myself. I pay my $20 a week and hope that the union actually does something that helps me for my money. Our contract expired in January, so we'll see, but so help me God, if there are major, major concessions, I'm leaving the union. Why pay dues if the union does nothing but cost you? | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 1658 Registered: 04-2005 |
John Gotti Says:  "Shut up and pay your dues!" | ||
Perfectgentleman Member Username: Perfectgentleman Post Number: 379 Registered: 03-2006 |
As a right-wing capitalist, I agree that some CEO's are overpaid, their compensation should be based more on performance. To guarantee them large sums whether they succeed or not seems non-intuitive. They will say that to keep good executives you have to pay high salaries. True enough, but you can't say on the one hand the future of the company is in the hands of the executives and argue for a high wage but then when the company tanks you blame everyone else and grab your golden parachute. The hidden cost of excessive salaries for top executives is that idiots like Gettlefinger use it as a negotiating tool by saying "management is not sacrificing so why should we?" It sends the wrong message. Iococca had it right, take $1 per year until the company is turned around then cash in big later. Although management salaries from an actual cost perspective don't mean much to the bottom line, the symbolism is there. Potential buyers may scoff at the notion of buying a car from a company that is at deaths door yet is lavishing management with huge sums of money, stock and other perks. | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 842 Registered: 02-2004 |
Yeah I onder about my union negotiation that about to happen our contract is up may 3rd. My union is very inept, at least detroit area. I would like to know how much our leaders make. | ||
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba Post Number: 5085 Registered: 11-2003 |
Perfectgentlman, "if you can find a better car, buy it." Sadly, a whole hell of a lotta people have found the door to the Toyota and Honda dealers. Compared to other jobs in services and govt., the UAW salaries are bupkas. Plenty of people who don't produce very much make 6 figure salaries and think they are worth it. UAW officers have big weight to carry for a huge number of hourly working car shop johns. jjaba, Westsider. | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 848 Registered: 02-2004 |
anyone know how to find how much my union leaders make??? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8689 Registered: 10-2003 |
I would think if you are paying dues you should be able to call the union offices. I Googled RG but he is probably much higher profile and still only came up in 1-2 articles. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1934 Registered: 06-2004 |
you must still be misspelling - Ron GettELfinger Labor Leaders' Salaries Steelworker you are USW (or ISU)? | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1935 Registered: 06-2004 |
quote: Report on today's speech Union plots bargaining strategy | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 852 Registered: 02-2004 |
United steelworker of america(ADD 12 MORE NAMES AFTER RECENT MERGERS) | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 865 Registered: 08-2006 |
145K is a lot less than 8 Million, which is the average pay for an upper level car company executive who also happens to be presiding over a cash losing businesses. And sorry, it's not to do with union wages either. The foreign plants in the US pay thier workers a premium to keep the unions out, and they aint losing money like the big 3 are. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1238 Registered: 12-2003 |
Rhymeswithrawk, Want to be fired for no reason? Try working at a non-union facility and then get back to us about that. Call somebody at the Oakland Press and ask how things are there. Unfortunately at your workplace the union is forced to defend you should you get into trouble, even if you decide to stop paying dues. So you're in a lot better shape than your brethren at non-union represented shops. It would be only just, if you decide to quit the union, that the union would no longer be responsible for you, you're an at-will employee totally. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1395 Registered: 02-2004 |
It's the happy circle, isn't it? If the union is weak there are concessions so people quit and the union is weak and there are concessions... Everybody is going to take it up the hooha on health care and that is all there is to it. The companies will take the money saved and reward the shareholders and the CEO's. The people who work hard to make their companies succeed are left in the dust. All we have is each other. Without a union, you could be escorted out of the building like the sales support staff at Detroit Newspapers were last November. After their lunch hour, they came back to find guards at their desks. But they got free boxes to carry their personal posessions with! | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8702 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: Wasn't ford giving profit sharing upwards of $10K just about 5 years ago? The UAW don't exactly get nothing when the company does well. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8704 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ford profit sharing: 2000: $6,700 1999: $8,000 1998: $6,100 1997: $4,400 http://media.ford.com/newsroom /release_display.cfm?release=7 632 Seems to me everyone does well if the company does well. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1946 Registered: 06-2004 |
Ford's always treated workers better than the others - how about finding GM's numbers? GM's profit sharing rarely makes it lower than management. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 1396 Registered: 02-2004 |
The workers should share in the profits! I am a Ford wife. I enjoy a good life because my husband was a UAW member employed at a Ford plant. We drive Ford cars. When they succeed, we all succeed. But when they fail, why should they continue to profit, despite the terrible decisions that caused the problems? If we sacrifice, so should upper management. |
