  Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 177 Registered: 02-2007 |
Ok, now if Downtown was to ever sprawl and develop like we want it to, couldn't they sprawl it somewhat northward. A lot of Central Business is occuring in the area between the New Center and Downtown. ONly issue I guess with that would be that it would ruin the cityscape and skyline. What do you guys think? | ||
Nyburgher Member Username: Nyburgher Post Number: 124 Registered: 10-2006 |
I guess it helps get attention. But, if you mean normal mixed use walkable density don't use the word sprawl. The right word is growth which does usually mean some kind of changing skyline. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 178 Registered: 02-2007 |
ok, ty for the pointer. | ||
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix Post Number: 4 Registered: 03-2007 |
Downtown was origially suppose to expand north. We are just 10 years behind that trend,,soon Boston Edison will be downtown ajacent..lol | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 179 Registered: 02-2007 |
OH, so they had planned to build west to the lodge, then expand northward. IF that's the case, why not fix the borderings? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 2568 Registered: 02-2005 |
I'm not so sure about the term sprawl, what we really need to do it fill in the gaps between downtown and midtown/New Center. If by sprawl you mean a new frontier of major development and new high-rises, the riverfront, east and west, is just that. Detroit could very well grow a nice east-west skyline over time on the riverfront. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 11419 Registered: 10-2003 |
Am I missing something? Everything I've seen the past 5 years HAS been slowly sprawling northward from downtown. There has been way more development along the Woodward corridor than any other direction. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 181 Registered: 02-2007 |
However, That cover of the book (The Detroit That never came to be) showed Downtown actually sprawling Westward. So that's why I brought it up. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 11420 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is it a good book? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5246 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm pretty sure downtown already sprawl northward to New Center. What we call the 'downtown' is simply the central business district. Everything up to the edge of New Center is technically downtown. In fact, most cities define their downtowns much larger than what most Detroiter's define as downtown. There are a few gaps from decline, of course, but these have been historically connected for quite a few decades, now. (i.e. Midtown, Downtown, New Center) | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 183 Registered: 02-2007 |
I don't know, it was on the site in another forum. | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 420 Registered: 07-2006 |
Urbanize, was that actually the name of the book, or was it 'Unbuilt Detroit' (a free press insert), with something like this picture? http://i66.photobucket.com/alb ums/h264/scottrreed/unbuiltdet roit-1.jpg curious, in case it's something i haven't seen... | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 186 Registered: 02-2007 |
YEp, that's it. I believe I stated the name of the forum topic. | ||
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider Post Number: 240 Registered: 08-2006 |
Where is that picture from and what is the story of the book you are talking about. That image features the second comerica tower and I think that is the never built 80 floor book tower on the right...very interesting picture! | ||
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix Post Number: 7 Registered: 03-2007 |
Midtown/Wayne state is truly comming into its own, Its power on the Woodward corridor will show its full potential with the completion of a few projects currently moving full speed ahead. | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 421 Registered: 07-2006 |
I've found that to have some fascinating renderings - some things we're fortunate were not built, but most, i wish they had. Granted, that would probably mean that many more deteriorating buildings today, but the skyline would have been much more impressive. If downtown expands, most of the commercial development will most likely be up woodward, with some along the other spokes. East and west along the riverfront will likely be mostly residential, taking advantage of the river and the parks along it. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 187 Registered: 02-2007 |
I would prefer though that Downtown expands along the river, as it woould structure better, but that would be obscured seeing as all the things that need to be in Downtown and development is along the Woodward corridor. Wasn't this type of sprawl up the Woodward corridor the hopes for the compsers of the GM Headquarters and Fisher Building? | ||
Scottr Member Username: Scottr Post Number: 422 Registered: 07-2006 |
fareastsider - here are some more pics from that insert if you're interested. Those are not my scans, but i'm sure that's someone from this forum, but i can't remember who. I wish I had an original, though. A while back I took those and pasted them together into the single panorama to get a better idea of what it would look like, and did a little more cut and paste to get some color into the ghosted twin of comerica tower. From what i remember from past threads, it was an insert in the free press. i'm not sure what year, however. sorry, i don't know any more than that. (Message edited by scottr on March 16, 2007) (Message edited by scottr on March 16, 2007) | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 1090 Registered: 04-2006 |
Downtown Sprawl? an oxymoron? | ||
56packman Member Username: 56packman Post Number: 1124 Registered: 12-2005 |
Detroit sprawled (is that a word?) itself during the "big build" of the teens and twenties. cluster developments like the cultural center and the new center were built at the outer reaches of the civilized world when they were built (slight exaggeration) instead of being centered around the CBD like other cities. The sprawl was begun long before any of the social factors came into play. It was always about cheap, clear land. | ||
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix Post Number: 8 Registered: 03-2007 |
Every in-fill around downtown seems to be centered around lofts, 19 century house restorations,art galleries and coffee shops and YOUNG STUDENTS. This woodward cooridor will be Detroit's shinning star when everythings in place. I live downtown,its very noticable. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 196 Registered: 02-2007 |
I would like the fill-ins of corporations in downtown like every other city. | ||
Downtown_remix Member Username: Downtown_remix Post Number: 9 Registered: 03-2007 |
Burlington coat factory is shopping around for space in the city. I tried talking a scout to consider downtown det,maybe the temp MGM casino along with a krogers,an more | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 197 Registered: 02-2007 |
That's great news. That should consider MErchants Row or even that red Abandoned building on Clifford off the Fisher. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 198 Registered: 02-2007 |
No, they should consider moving into our only shopping Mall Bel-Air centre, as there in dyer need for retail from what I can see. They should consider the Target or Kids R Us or even Big Lot spaces. | ||
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize Post Number: 203 Registered: 02-2007 |
I think a Farmer Jack would be more Feasible in Downtown Detroit, as everyone likes them and their more reasonable. Any word on any Sears or Target-type stores looking for space in the city? | ||
Lvnthed Member Username: Lvnthed Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2007 |
To late Urbanize; Farmer Jack parent company trying to sell; Will divide or package the sale of all stores. They are currently taking bids. Don't know about the name. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 2831 Registered: 10-2004 |
A&P has been trying to unload what's left of FJ to a sucker now for at least two years. Spartan showed an initial interest, but that fell through two years ago. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 1035 Registered: 08-2006 |
I wouldn't call it sprawl when redevelopment spreads to other parts of the city. It's a healthy reuse of old buildings and neighborhoods. I get excited every time I think about redevelopment growing out of downtown and midtown and taking over other parts of the city. It'll happen someday. |
