Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:56 pm: | |
How foolish do they think the public is? 3 months without a contract, 4 months since one was promised (well, not really when you consider the slippery trial lawyer Clintonese language they used). Even more shocking....WHERE IS THE MEDIA??? |
Peter Member Username: Peter
Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 3:48 pm: | |
I thought they had reached an agreement awhile ago... |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 118 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:53 pm: | |
Not really...read the fine print, it is basically an agreement to agree on a future agreement. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:55 pm: | |
Nope, read the fine print. It is an agreement to negotiate a contract, not a contract itself. Typical lawyerly BS. |
Ortho313 Member Username: Ortho313
Post Number: 18 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 3:13 pm: | |
Its not a story. The last mention in the paper said the ACGME didn't care. There are no imminent consequences. When the players (DMC/WSU) say "its no big deal," there is no one with authority who can refute them. I have no idea, but I think the MSU SOM decision is the current linchpin. Any word if the dean got a response after contacting MSU asking them not to come? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 123 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:46 pm: | |
No idea...only word of St. john as a new suitor throwing their hat in the ring for MSU. |
Jk_one Member Username: Jk_one
Post Number: 3 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 1:28 pm: | |
From what we have heard is that the contract terms are executed but all the final revisions with Counsel takes an extensive amount of time. This isn't a simple contract based on all the complexities. Why would the Dean ask MSU not to come to Detroit or use old Hutzel? Is WSU SOM really afraid of the Osteopathic Program? WSU asked for the same liberties do they not (want to shop other systems?). Speaking of politics, sounds like there is power in monopolies....Dean worried about some competition? |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 124 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 4:34 pm: | |
It would not be competition if the opposition wasn't concerned about it and worked towards beating their opponents, would it? Who is the "We" you refer to in hearing about the current status? I have heard very different reports from middle level administrators and Physician faculty (at the DMC). |
Ortho313 Member Username: Ortho313
Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 3:44 pm: | |
Don't know what this says about the progress of negotiations. Despite optimism and replies of "it takes a long time to actually finalize" there has not been as much as a draft shown to the physician group. I assume the dean contacted MSU for exactly that reason, to let them know their presence would aversely affect WSU SOM's well... existence. ------------------------------ ---------------------------- DMC chief starts weight-loss plan He's in diet center in Durham, N.C. March 2, 2007 BY PATRICIA ANSTETT FREE PRESS MEDICAL WRITER Correction: This story should not have raised questions about whether Mike Duggan, chief executive officer of the Detroit Medical Center, would undergo bariatric surgery while attending a diet and exercise program at Duke University. Duggan said he is not having the surgery. Mike Duggan, chief executive officer of the Detroit Medical Center, has entered an intensive, monthlong, weight-loss program at Duke University's Diet and Fitness Center. Spokeswoman Bridget Hurd confirmed Wednesday that Duggan left Feb. 23 for a stay in the acclaimed program in Durham, N.C. (www.cfl.duke.edu). Duggan did not respond Thursday to an interview request Hurd relayed to him. Advertisement She also said she didn't know why Duggan chose Duke over his own medical center's weight-loss program at Harper University Hospital in Detroit. About 1,500 people go through the Duke program each year. Participants spend the day exercising, eating nutritious meals and attending classes, but they can stay off campus, said Dr. Howard Eisenson, the center's director. One year later, 80% of the participants report they have kept off the weight they lost. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 128 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 10:19 pm: | |
It seems that the DMC is going full steam ahead pursuing other partners in violation of the intent of the agreement, if not the actual contract. Is WSU doing likewise? If they are not, they should be!!! The DMC is playing hardball, if WSU SOM wants to survive they need to do likewise. If nothing else, that might hasten the contract process. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1069 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 11:00 pm: | |
If we were to care, could someone translate this TLA (three letter acronym) mish mash into English? It's like hearing military personnel talking about "work" |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 129 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:29 am: | |
So sorry for the jargon... DMC=Detroit Medical Center WSU=Wayne State University WSU SOM= Wayne State University School of Medicine. MSU= Michigan State University. MSU SOM= Michigan State University School of Medicine (allopathic, or MD...Medical Doctor degree) MSU COM= Michigan State University College of Osteopathic Medicine (osteopathic, or DO...Doctor of Osteopathy). I think that covers all of the acronyms, sorry again for the shorthand. |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 130 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:30 am: | |
oops, one more, although it hasn't appeared in this thread... ACGME=American College of Graduate Medical Education. |
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess
Post Number: 260 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 5:59 pm: | |
(Actually, it's "Accreditation Council...", but regardless, that's who decides who gets to train residents.) |
Ccbatson Member Username: Ccbatson
Post Number: 131 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Monday, March 05, 2007 - 9:33 pm: | |
Too true, my bad. |