Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 128 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 7:26 pm: | |
Is the Hudsons Block designed to support a building on top of it? Hope it isnt going to be another parking structure one day. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 854 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 7:27 pm: | |
Well, it already is a parking structure, actually. |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 129 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 7:32 pm: | |
i know it is but i am talking about ABOVE ground development.... |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 1190 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 7:34 pm: | |
Yeah it is made to support a structure |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 854 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 8:10 pm: | |
I thought it could only hold a building 14 stories high. I may be wrong, but I think thats it. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5150 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 8:24 pm: | |
Someone please find the thread that this was discussed in. It's been discussed countless times. |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 132 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 8:31 pm: | |
You long timers have can say that about most any thread |
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit
Post Number: 318 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 8:33 pm: | |
if ur gonna be an ass Lmich, find the thread yourself. Were not your minions |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 488 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 8:42 pm: | |
From a quick search, I couldn't find anything. If you want to do more in depth stuff, be my guest, but I'm not looking. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5151 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 9:38 pm: | |
What's up with the search? It's nowhere near as effective as it used to be, it seems. Anyway, Fareastsider, see if this helps: http://www.walkerparking.com/p ortfolio/hudson.html The Premier Garage is capable of supporting an 18-story building spread over the entire block, I believe. Here are some photos of the construction of the garage: http://www.ci.detroit.mi.us/db a/currentproj-premier.htm |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 490 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 9:58 pm: | |
Good to know about the info. As for the search, I typed Hudsons+DetroitYes+Discussion. Something along the lines of that. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5152 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 10:06 pm: | |
I was asking it rhetorically, because it's changed, and not for the better. |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 492 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 10:08 pm: | |
I know that it was rhetorical, but I felt like providing what I searched in the unlikely chance that anyone wanted to search as well. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 232 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 10:47 pm: | |
It can be retrofitted to fit a taller building, right? |
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73
Post Number: 199 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 10:53 pm: | |
Here's a pretty lengthy discussion on the block from last february, including a lot of concept pictures done by KDG. https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/62684/66450.html By the way, for the "long timers" who remember these threads but cant find them, or the newer members looking for old info, make sure to try switching to search in the archives, not just the discuss detroit. I found this and a few other threads by searching for "hudson's block" in the Archives-Beginning January 2006 |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5154 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:10 pm: | |
Rbdetsport, check out the links I posted. Andy, thanks for the search tip! Though, it still seems to the search still has nowhere near the amount of options it once had. (Message edited by lmichigan on February 23, 2007) |
Scs100 Member Username: Scs100
Post Number: 496 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:15 pm: | |
Thanks for the tip. |
Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas
Post Number: 74 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:46 am: | |
14-18 stories is plenty for that spot. The scale of Lower Woodward and Campus Martius is a human/intimate one and is in large part what make CM work as well as it does. |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 860 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:50 am: | |
Would you guys want to see one huge block built, or a collection of buildings? Some 6 to 10 story buildings, maybe 3 or 4 of them on the Woodward side. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 233 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 12:34 pm: | |
18 story buildings at the north end, smaller as it gets closer to CMP. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 234 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
Split it up like this- http://i14.photobucket.com/alb ums/a301/rbdetsport/WoodwardBl ock.jpg |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 866 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:39 pm: | |
George Jackson, president of the Detroit Economic Growth Corp., is quoted in the Feb. 18 Freep about the Hudson's block: "What we will do is, of course, continue to market the site to a large user. We don't want a lot of little projects on that site. That is a prime site, and it would have to be major retail or a corporate headquarters." I think he'll be waiting for a long time, holding out for that. |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 866 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:15 pm: | |
I like that plan Rbdetsport. I would like the buildings or building that is to be built on the site to have an old facade as to blend in with the rest of the avenue. I think a brick or terra cotta facade would be nicest. They should be high quality buildings. |
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport
Post Number: 236 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 4:05 pm: | |
What is up with the Jz_Detroit and Mcnamara on that thread? Has anyone talked to them about whether they know more? |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2459 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 5:45 pm: | |
OliverDouglas, after walking around today, I concluded there would be nothing wrong with the Compuware Building being twice as tall. When you're close by, it creates a nice sense of enclosure, but from a couple blocks away, it leaves a lot to be desired. How cool would the skyline be if the Hudson's or Monroe block contained the city's tallest building? Imagine a spire rising above the rest of skyline, from the center of the CBD. |
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73
Post Number: 201 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 6:00 pm: | |
Mackinaw, I definitely would love to see the city's tallest rising on the Monroe Block. In addition to the effect on the skyline, I think that from CM it would make an awesome contrast with the 200 and 300 foot buildings surrounding the park, kind of like the RCA Building viewed from Rockefeller plaza. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2460 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 7:53 pm: | |
The downside is we'd probably have to wait 10-15 years minimum to even start talking about it. Something tells me that someone will come along with an offer to make another one kennedy square and the city will bite. As much as having a parking lot there is a disgrace, I kind of want the city to wait on more demand. Housing demand will keep being strong, but we need to build some more office demand too. |
Jasoncw Member Username: Jasoncw
Post Number: 346 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:33 pm: | |
Yeah, I think that is an important spot in the city. I think it would be better to wait a few years and have something nice than to get something bad sooner. In the long run it would be better. |