Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 89 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 4:39 pm: | |
Anyone remember this local commercial from the 70's? Does Detroit create any promos like this anymore that aren't sports or gambling related? Damn, was that jingle catchy! |
Jazzstage Member Username: Jazzstage
Post Number: 65 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 4:50 pm: | |
The tune was adapted from the musical Damn Yankee's. It was written by Richard Adler and Jerry Ross and is titled "You,ve gotta have heart". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D amn_Yankees [VAN BUREN] You've gotta have heart All you really need is heart When the odds are sayin' you'll never win That's when the grin should start You've gotta have hope Mustn't sit around and mope Nothin's half as bad as it may appear Wait'll next year and hope When your luck is battin' zero Get your chin up off the floor Mister you can be a hero You can open any door, there's nothin' to it but to do it You've gotta have heart Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course But keep that old horse Before the cart First you've gotta have heart [ROCKY] A great slugger we haven't got [SMOKEY] A great pitcher we haven't got [VERNON] A great ball club we haven't got [ROCKY, SMOKEY & VERNON] What've we got? [ALL] We've got heart All you really need is heart When the odds are sayin' you'll never win That's when the grin should start [ROCKY, SMOKEY, LINVILLE] We've got hope We don't sit around and mope Not a solitary sob do wwe heave Mister, 'cause we've got hope [ROCKY] We're so happy that we're hummin' [ALL] Hmm-hmm-hmm [VAN BUREN] That's the hearty thing to do [ALL] Hoo-hoo-hoo [SMOKEY] 'Cause we know our ship will come in [ALL] Hmm-hmm-hmm [ROCKY] So it's ten years overdue [ALL] Hoo-hoo-hoo We've got heart Miles 'n miles 'n miles o' heart [VERNON] Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course [BOYS] Butt keep that old horse before the cart [VAN BUREN] So what the hecks the use of cryin'? [SMOKEY] Why should we curse? [ROCKY] We've gotta get better, 'cause we can't get worse! [ALL] And to add to it, we've got heart We've got heart We've got heart We've got heart All you really need is heart When the odds are sayin' you'll never win That's when the grin should start [SMOKEY] We're so happy that we're laughin' [ALL] Ha ha ha [VAN BUREN] That's the hearty thing to do [ALL] Hoo-hoo-hoo [VERNON] So we ain't been autographin' [ALL] Ha ha ha [ROCKY] 'Cept to sign an I.O.U. [ALL] Hoo-hoo-hoo [ALL] We've got heart Miles 'n miles n' miles of heart Oh, it's fine to be a genius of course But keep that old horse Before the cart [SMOKEY] Who minds those pop bottles flyin'? [VERNON] The hisses and the boos [VAN BUREN] The team has been consistent [ROCKY] Yeah, we always lose [THREE BOYS] But we're laughin' cause... We've got heart [ALL FOUR BOYS] We've got heart... We've got heart |
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni
Post Number: 554 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 4:56 pm: | |
Great memory of a song that created happy thoughts. I seem to recall the actors being very animated with arms outstretched etc... |
Ypsirocks Member Username: Ypsirocks
Post Number: 35 Registered: 03-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 5:47 pm: | |
someone has to have video of this! I've been searching for this since the advent of Youtube! |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1646 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:17 pm: | |
there were many DIA staffers in that comercial--I remember my late friend Audley Grossman appearing for a few seconds. |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 90 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:19 pm: | |
Jazz, Thanks for your knowledge! Yes, it was such an upbeat promo for the city, and as I recall pretty multi-cultural; it was like art could bring everyone back together. sigh. Wish I would have taped a lot back then, but it was the era of beta and being around the age of nine, I didn't have much foresight.... |
Revaldullton Member Username: Revaldullton
Post Number: 664 Registered: 07-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 6:37 pm: | |
I remember it well. thanx for the memories. the good rev |
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster
Post Number: 2140 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 7:17 pm: | |
It seems ripe for revival. |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 91 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 9:57 pm: | |
Being in a nostalgic funk, I decided to search for the lyrics and stumbled upon this fun site-please excuse if it's been posted before. Once you get past the cheesy commercial stuff, it's fun to read ""You know you're from Detroit if..." I learned some stuff too- I didn't know John Sinclair held a love-in on Belle Isle in '67! And CA gets all the credit, no fair. Forgive the weird "link"; I tried formatting it and get error messages. Key in detroit and memories minus the "and" add dot com. Seriously, is there a ban on this site? |
Detroitgalaxian Member Username: Detroitgalaxian
Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:42 pm: | |
You've gotta have art. All you really need is art. When those little things in life make you frown, Come on down and get a start. First you've gotta have art - A great Rembrandt: look what we've got. A great Rodin: look what we've got. A great museum: look what we've got. Films, foods, puppets, and shops. Yeah! We've got art....... Miles and miles and miles of art....... When those little things in life make you low, You ought to see Van Gogh, And take heart...... So what the heck's the use of waiting, Come down here now. If you've never loved art, We're going to show you how. And to help you out: We've got art...... You've gotta have art..... You've gotta have art. Yeah!
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Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni
Post Number: 560 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 11:53 pm: | |
Oh yeah Detroitgalaxian, that's it!!! I remembered that actors face and the Van Gogh Self-Portrait right away. |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 778 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:53 am: | |
here's a small snippet from the spot. www.detroitkidshow.com/art.wmv |
Dave70 Member Username: Dave70
Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 8:59 am: | |
Hehe that Van Gogh guy was the first thing that popped into my head when I saw this thread! |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 93 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2007 - 10:36 am: | |
Thank you Detroitgalaxian and Ed; you've both brightened the day! Wonder why no one's bothered to put this out on You Tube...well, when the museum opens again, I'm going to visit the library. |
Detroitgalaxian Member Username: Detroitgalaxian
Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:30 am: | |
About 2 years ago, Thomas Video in Clawson was selling and renting a DVD titled something like "Detriot Television Memories". That DVD includes this DIA commercial in it's entirety. (As well as a lot of other interesting material.) I see that the video on Ed_golick's site is dated 1976. I'm pretty sure I remember that commercial running frequently all the way into the early 80's. It seemed like commercials then generally had much longer runs than the ones of today, most of which run for a few weeks or less and then are tossed. Ryan K |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 235 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:43 am: | |
If you believe the textbooks and the real-life practitioners then you'll agree that two kinds of "spots" run and run: (1) the good ones (per copy test results) and (2) whatever is on the shelf of the low-budget advertiser (i.e. lousy stuff can have a long shelf-life because production costs are huge). I've seen the DIA spot and believe that both rules apply: good stuff, and nothing left in the budget to cut another. Another example is the classic "talking animal" spot for the Detroit Zoo. |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 98 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:43 am: | |
Looks like a trek to Clawson may be in the works. Thanks so much! |
Mallory Member Username: Mallory
Post Number: 171 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 9:55 am: | |
THIS is the one I was thinking of! There are two great commercial memories that I have of growing up in the 70's in Detroit: this one and the Joshua Doore jingle. GREAT memories. Thanks for starting my day off with this one. |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 779 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:06 am: | |
The Detroit Television Memories DVD is a ripoff. Bootlegged, poor quality footage and sloppy editing for this so called documentary. I believe Thomas Video charges 25 bucks for this mess, but if you really want it you can usually get it for the opening bid of $9.95 on eBay. |
Michmeister Member Username: Michmeister
Post Number: 222 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:20 am: | |
DIA, the Zoo, and the Faygo song are the top three in my book. |
Sven1977 Member Username: Sven1977
Post Number: 205 Registered: 04-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:35 am: | |
All the commercials mentioned in the string up to now are sitting on a self at the ad agency where I work. I forget others haven't seen those spots in years. The Van Gogh actor is actually Fred Doner, son of W.B. Doner the founder of Doner Advertising. "I'll have a Red Pop." |
Jazzstage Member Username: Jazzstage
Post Number: 69 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:37 am: | |
Don't forget the classic Highland Appliance video of the kid using a reel to reel of Beethoven to trick his mother into thinking he was practicing. They also ran the WRIF commercial with Kelly Harmon too long. She was terribly out of style before they stopped. What car dealership was this one from? Here dawg, come on dawg. Get yer self a good deal. Right now, Get a dawg gone good deal. Edit: Have to add the Mel Farr Superstar adds with him in a cape. Speaking of jingles; is the "Father and Son" jingle the longest locally produced jingle that is currently running? (Message edited by jazzstage on August 20, 2007) |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 780 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 11:56 am: | |
The longest running locally produced radio jingle is the Roy O'Brien Ford spot with the Gaylords, since 1953, I believe. |
Detroitgalaxian Member Username: Detroitgalaxian
Post Number: 16 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 1:45 pm: | |
Ed - I was afraid to publicly put down the "Detroit Television Memories" DVD here. But since you did it, I'll do it too. I rented it and was extremely disappointed with it for the exact reasons you cite. The footage seemed extremely random and included a disproportionate amount of old wrestling material. I ended up being bored through much of it. The best part of the DVD was that it has the DIA, Zoo, and Faygo commercials - but you have to "work" to get to those. Still - for the price of the rental, I was blown away and delighted to see the "Gotta have Art" commercial after 25 years. However if I had actually purchased the DVD, I would have felt completely ripped off. - my 2 cents. |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 101 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 4:53 pm: | |
That's too bad about the DVD. I think it would be fantastic if it were updated when the DIA reopens. Why is it we don't promote art anymore in this accessible, populist way? Now sadly, we see only stodgy ads for blockbuster exhibits. |
Ct4438 Member Username: Ct4438
Post Number: 47 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:45 pm: | |
I have been wishing they'd re-run this cornball commercial just so I could enjoy it again! I remember this one and the Detroit Zoo commercial from the early 80s perfectly! I wonder if anyone has any links with the old Isiah Thomas public service commercials telling us to "Look up".... |
Sarge Member Username: Sarge
Post Number: 728 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 6:49 pm: | |
quote:What car dealership was this one from? Here dawg, come on dawg. Get yer self a good deal. Right now, Get a dawg gone good deal. I think it was for Alan Ford in Bloomfield Hills. Hey Dawg! C'mere Dawg! Me and Dawg want you to go to Telegraph Road! Right Now! Get a good deal! |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 237 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 7:53 am: | |
Sven - Doner? Word is that they've made their name with a lot of the edgy local stuff that's run over the years. I don't think that the big dogs in town can even name local call signs, let alone write jingles for Bond-Bilt or Don Foss. |
Mallory Member Username: Mallory
Post Number: 173 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 8:37 am: | |
Sarge, are you sure? I thought it was for Ray Whitfield Ford in Taylor? Too many commercials buzzing around in my head, I could be wrong. Anyone have a link to the Joshua Doore commercial? (Message edited by mallory on August 21, 2007) |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 242 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:15 am: | |
...and does anyone remember that the Joshua Doore jingle was recut more recently for another local furniture store? |
Waz Member Username: Waz
Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 10:15 am: | |
That would be Robinson Furniture. But I can't recall offhand how they replaced the four-syllable Josh_u_a Doore with the three syllable Rob_in_son. |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 783 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 12:20 pm: | |
"You've got an uncle in the furniture business, Robinson is your furniture store." |
Sarge Member Username: Sarge
Post Number: 730 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 1:25 pm: | |
quote:Sarge, are you sure? I thought it was for Ray Whitfield Ford in Taylor? I could be wrong. Maybe it was Whitfield. :-) |
Motorcitydave Member Username: Motorcitydave
Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 1:42 pm: | |
I know the Historical Museum has a TV commercial exhibit up stairs, and I know the Detroit Zoo commercial is on there, can't remember if the DIA one is though.... anyone have any connections with the Historical Museum? This may be a good project for everyone to work on, and get the above mentioned commercials (and then some) added to the exhibit. |
Crash67 Member Username: Crash67
Post Number: 27 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 3:29 pm: | |
Unfortunately, that wall of TVs with the classic commercials was part of an exhibit that is no longer running at the Historical Museum. About a dozen classic Doner spots were in there, including the Zoo, Faygo, Ballpark Franks, Mazda (Zoom Zoom) and many others. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1658 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:53 pm: | |
I think the "Dawg" commercials were both for Alan Ford in BH (which is now closed, building available) and Ray Whitfield in Taylor, they mentioned both dealerships in those commercials. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1659 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 11:58 pm: | |
Quote: "If you believe the textbooks and the real-life practitioners then you'll agree that two kinds of "spots" run and run: (1) the good ones (per copy test results) and (2) whatever is on the shelf of the low-budget advertiser (i.e. lousy stuff can have a long shelf-life because production costs are huge)." Craig--where does Dietrich furs fall in this logic? They have been running the same ads with women tressed in Farrah Fawcett hairdos riding horses through the snow (in furs, of course) to a "Ron Burgundy" jazz flute track since the Farah 'do was in style |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 249 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 7:41 am: | |
^56P - Dietrich falls under #2. I imagine skinflint Old-man Dietrich getting angry every time Junior suggests that they cut a new spot. (think in terms of $250K today to shoot & produce something above the caliber of the typical used car lot commercial). On the other hand... I bet that almost everyone on this forum, young & old, can sing the Dietrich jingle. As nauseating as that jingle may be, the recall that it engenders is the sign of a great spot. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1660 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 8:47 am: | |
Yeah, that's a lot of fur coats, and the old spots are holiday/valenties day favorites. |
Mallory Member Username: Mallory
Post Number: 176 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 9:21 am: | |
Lyrics to Joshua Doore? You've got an uncle in the furniture business, Joshua Doore, Joshua Doore. He's a remarkable guy with a remarkable place, He'll save you money on your furniture every day. Pick it out in the showroom, pick it up in the warehouse, take it home in a crate, YEAH! You've got an uncle in the furniture business, Josh-u-a Doore, Yeah! Am I close? I can hear the jingle in my head. That and the huge crate on top of a Pacer when they get to the "take it home in a crate" line. Anyone have video? It's not on YouTube. |
Craig Member Username: Craig
Post Number: 254 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:24 am: | |
Wasn't the voice-talent on the Dietrich commercial the same guy who was on Hot Fudge? BTW - in the mythology of my elders Joshua Doore was bumped-off by the mafia. Any truth to this? |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 297 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 11:36 am: | |
It would be so good if the DIA could do a 2007 version of that great commercial to coincide with its grand re-opening this fall. One of the best commercials I have ever seen by a cities cultural center and one that so many Detroiters relate to. Does anyone know anyone who could be contacted with this idea ? |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 132 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:30 pm: | |
Detroitbill, This is a long thread, and you may have missed it, but I think one of us broached this idea. Anyway, I took action; I e-mailed the DIA's Media/PR Dept. with our suggestion. I'll post if they respond. |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 323 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 12:43 pm: | |
Has anyone seen the "new" Detroit Zoo commercial? It is like the old commercial being discussed here but it has been edited and the animals say different things. I have no idea what the new lines are because my mind substitutes the old lines! Some scenes appear to be missing such as: Monkeys: Ok guys - this way!/Wrong way guys!/Nice going Melvin! and Peacock: I wanna talk to my agent! Crocodile: Let me talk to your agent! Heh-Heh! Ookpik |
Detroitbill Member Username: Detroitbill
Post Number: 301 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - 1:53 pm: | |
Hey thanks Oakman !!!,, it would be great for the DIA to do a remake to celebrate.. |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 217 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 11:33 pm: | |
I finally heard a reply from the DIA; rah, rah, blah. Posted below: Hi Pam Marcil forwarded the e-mail about your desire to see the "You Gotta Have Art" campaign revived. Although we're also fans of that memorable campaign, we really need to communicate that there is something new and different happening at the DIA, while reinforcing the idea that engaging with great art can be a transformative experience. With that in mind, we have been working for over a year on a new campaign - from research to creative development and everything in-between - and are getting ready to launch it in late October. We're thrilled with the results and are certain that the new campaign will not only get people's attention, but get them to visit the new DIA. Keep your eyes peeled and mark your calendar for the big opening days. November 10th is the black tie gala, November 16 - 18th is the Member preview and November 23, the day after Thanksgiving, is our big public opening. We hope to see you and all the "Detroit Yes" folks in November. In the meantime please don't hesitate to contact me if you need any more information on the grand opening of the new DIA. Regards, Jim Jim Boyle Director of Marketing The Detroit Institute of Arts 313.833.9769 jboyle@dia.org |
Ferntruth Member Username: Ferntruth
Post Number: 108 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:14 pm: | |
quote: "BTW - in the mythology of my elders Joshua Doore was bumped-off by the mafia. Any truth to this?" I don't think this qualifies as a confirmation, but I seem to clearly recall that he was found in a car trunk or was discovered taking a "dirt nap" somewhere...I remember at the time there being a lot of talk about organized crime being involved. I think the being found in a car trunk part was true, because even then I remember thinking "well, SOMEONE must have killed him and put him in there, unless he committed suicide and decided a car trunk was the best place to do that!". |
Vetalalumni Member Username: Vetalalumni
Post Number: 625 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Friday, August 31, 2007 - 1:49 pm: | |
It will be interesting to see the "new" DIA on my next visit to Detroit. Hopefully the new DIA will (continue to) be a great place. |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 802 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:03 am: | |
You can now see the "You Gotta Have Art" DIA commercial, along with a handful of other classic Detroit TV spots, by clicking here. http://www.detroitkidshow.com/ detroit_commercials.htm |
Oakmangirl Member Username: Oakmangirl
Post Number: 283 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 9:27 am: | |
Ed, You're my hero!!! |
Leoqueen Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1632 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 10:34 am: | |
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I just spent a pleasant few minutes roaming down memory lane........ |
Alsodave Member Username: Alsodave
Post Number: 788 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:15 am: | |
Thanks Ed!!! |
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick
Post Number: 803 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:34 am: | |
Check back often. I'll be posting more. |
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy
Post Number: 5897 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:35 am: | |
After seeing that Faygo "Remember" commercial I have this craving for redpop now. And Lord, I do miss Bob Lo. |
Jazzstage Member Username: Jazzstage
Post Number: 94 Registered: 08-2007
| Posted on Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 11:38 am: | |
Does anyone know who the piano player is on the Faygo boat commercial? It looks like he is really playing by the way his hands are. |