Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5904 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 6:48 am: | |
D-DOT have come down the serious case of the green flu. Most D-Dot bus drivers are NOT running today dut to their demand of security guards in which the city CLOWNSIL refused. Thousands of Detroiters will suffer seriously. How are they going to get work, shop and play? This is sad day for Detroit. |
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury
Post Number: 223 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:41 am: | |
Wow. The city only wants to think about is casinos but they don't want to think about the poor Detroiters who doesn't owns a car and transportation is the ONLY way that our people can get around town. Once again, this city IS a joke. |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1673 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:34 am: | |
i thought it was wierd to see smart buses on odd routes this morning |
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine
Post Number: 1674 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:36 am: | |
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20070523/NEW S01/70523004 |
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248
Post Number: 519 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:11 am: | |
I don't blame them for walking off the job. Although I feel sorry for the inconvenience to passengers, the silly politics have went on long enough. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5905 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:35 am: | |
D-DOT bus drive will NOT run those busses until the demands for security guards has been compromised. Even they have to serious drastic measures to FORCE the city CLOWNSIL to overturn their votes. Even King Kwame himself is very upset of the whole situation. So the green flu plague will continue until the city CLOWNSIL come up with the cure. We have the #1 worst public transportation in the U.S. and our leaders keep on bickering and grunting like barbarians. |
Smitch Member Username: Smitch
Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:45 am: | |
I dont the bus drivers either. Im sure this will get some attention though. None of the members of council have to ride the bus everyday. They probably haven't ridden D-DOT in decades if at all. So incompetent, so detached from the issues.... |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5907 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:48 am: | |
The city CLOWNSIL don't have to ride D-DOT. They have their fancy dubbed up Cadillacs and other town cars to get where they are going. |
Bumble Member Username: Bumble
Post Number: 104 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:02 am: | |
How will the mayor and city council (not to mention their staffs) get to work if the buses aren't running? |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5908 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:04 am: | |
There is SMART bus, CABS and CARPOOL or RIDE A BIKE; alternative transportation. |
Chris_rohn Member Username: Chris_rohn
Post Number: 296 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:12 am: | |
Look at the bright side of the picture - without DDOT we have a single regional transit system everyone's been asking for! |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5911 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:30 am: | |
What! The SMART Bus system is not ready to handle the pressure of Detroiters who want to make local stops and pick ups. There are NO other SMART buses that do Detroit local ghettohoods like Six mile, Livernois, Plymouth Rd. Joy Rd. 7 Mile Rd. Dexter Rd, Greenfield Rd. Schoolcraft Rd. Wyoming Rd. Grandriver Rd. most of E. Warren Rd and 8 Mile Rd. Hamilton Rd. Oakland Rd. Chene, Russell, Haynes Rd. most of Mack Rd. Chairmount Rd. Holbrook Rd. Caniff Rd. Conner Rd. most of Fort St. Linwood St. Chicago/ Davison Rd. Schaefer Rd. and many more. Folks living in those areas may have to find alternative tranportation, but for those live the suburban borders maybe lucky. |
Russix Member Username: Russix
Post Number: 12 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:31 pm: | |
Isn't this how the Streetcar system folded in the 50's? The union went on strike and everyone gave up on riding it. I understand the union's demands for better safety but this strike could potentially backfire as a means to obtain their goals. |
Smitch Member Username: Smitch
Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:38 pm: | |
I dont think so Russix, The people who ride the busses now, do so mostly because they have no other choice. |
Johnlodge Member Username: Johnlodge
Post Number: 456 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:39 pm: | |
What I don't understand is the fact that 11 million bucks to put security on the buses already exists through homeland security funding, but apparently that money can be better spent on corrupt city leaders. |
Smitch Member Username: Smitch
Post Number: 12 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 12:45 pm: | |
Looks like we have a temporary solution: Detroit Deputy Mayor Anthony Adams said they city has brokered a deal with its bus driver's union to end today's surprise walkout and get the buses rolling again by 3 a.m. Thursday. Wayne Co. Sheriff’s deputies will provide temporary security for 24 hours, beginning at 3 a .m. when buses get back on the street, to give the city council time to debate the issue http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20070523/NEW S01/70523004 |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 1691 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 1:35 pm: | |
I'm with the bus driver's union on this one. A quick wildcat strike was a good way to bring attention to this serious problem. I guess I can appreciate Sheila Cockrel's argument about liability, but really, I'd still say it's a pretty good deal for the city to get free bus patrols from the county, even if the city is liable for problems. Can't the city & county come up with an amended proposal which addresses liability? The police union argument is bullshit, though, and clearly against the public interest. If the council was swayed by that, that's just pathetic. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5916 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:22 pm: | |
That's fine for now. All city CLOWNSIL, before you do anything else. Get to work and vote YES on that 11 million dollar proposal RIGHT NOW! For we need our city buses moving in our streets right away. We have to keep Detroit moving for a better future. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 935 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:50 pm: | |
Russix, Detroit's straphangers usually backed the union. They saw those guys every day. (Think of the friendly rapport often found between office folks and UPS people.) But when the union struck, the DSR killed three rail lines during the brief labor action. When the strike was settled, there were three fewer streetcar lines in the city. To say it was the fault of labor is more than a little ridiculous. |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 1692 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 3:04 pm: | |
A statement just released by TRU: http://www.detroittransit.org/
quote:Wednesday, May 23, 2007 TRU urges City Council to resolve liability, hire County Sheriffs ASAP DDOT busses are not running today. Bus drivers are refusing to drive until the City Council gets a dedicated security force on the busses. While today's action is new, this issue is not. Here's some important background information: For over a year and a half, DDOT busses have had no dedicated security force. The busses are pretty safe overall, but with 130,000 people riding every day, problems happen and a dedicated security force is needed to prevent and address those problems. Detroit received a federal grant to provide security for the busses. The Detroit chief of police says they aren't able to and aren't interested in providing police for the busses. Her priority is neighborhood protection. The Wayne County Sheriff's Department is ready and willing to provide the security service. That would not only provide protection for the busses in the city, but also eliminate confusing over jurisdiction when DDOT busses travel through Highland Park, into Dearborn or elsewhere. The Detroit City Council and Mayor's office have been debating this issue for over six months. Several city council members believe that the Detroit police should provide the service, regardless of what the Chief of Police says. While providing Detroit jobs is a laudable goal, in this situation it is absurd. Other council members are concerned about liability - an important issue that must be addressed for sure. However, we've been waiting far too long. TRU has urged the City Council on numerous occasions to quickly address the liability problem and get security on the busses. The DDOT drivers union has also been pushing for this for many months, without success. The union held a rally outside the City-County building two weeks ago to push for action, again without success. While TRU is dismayed by the action of the bus drivers, leaving over 100,000 people stranded with no notice and few alternatives, we understand their reasons. Much of the blame for today's problem lies squarely on the shoulders of the Mayor's office and the Detroit City Council for failing to work together to obtain a fair agreement that will provide increased security for bus drivers and riders alike. Hopefully this will draw enough attention and ire to force the City Council and the Mayor's office to work out these matters. A recent report is that the busses will be running tomorrow, with County Sheriffs providing security for the day. Check the Free Press online for the latest. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 4370 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 3:04 pm: | |
The DSR rail system was replaced by the DSR bus system. No public entity went belly up because of the switch. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 936 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 3:09 pm: | |
The DSR replaced its rail system with a bus system over the course of 30-odd fitful years, from the early 1920s until 1956. |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 149 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:54 pm: | |
Is anybody surprised by this? It always takes a crisis to get anything done in Detroit. Too bad we don't have a Rudy or Penske (full time)to shake up the "leaders" and get the city focused and running on all cylinders. I applaud the drivers for "enough is enough". |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 940 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:57 pm: | |
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again. Didn't need no welfare state. Everybody pulled his weight. Gee, our old LaSalle ran great. Those were the days. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 982 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:00 pm: | |
quote:Councilwoman Martha Reeves was the only member pushing for a vote today, saying that the safety of the drivers, residents and schoolchildren is at stake. Haha, in light of the events, the council still refused to address the issue. |
Trainman Member Username: Trainman
Post Number: 401 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:13 pm: | |
A one half cent new three county (Oakland, Wayne and Macomb) sales tax increase can help fix this problem. The next time you buy fast food or other item or cash your paycheck, think about paying a small county sales, payroll, property or service tax to make the DDOT bus drivers safer. Just spending a few pennies more on the purchase of a Big Mac could save the live of a DDOT or SMART bus driver. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 4379 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:23 pm: | |
I knew it was just a matter of time until Trainman showed up here.... but this time his idea is not half bad... although I'm not a fan of fractional currency... retailers will always round up and keep the difference. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5917 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 10:23 am: | |
So far All D-DOT busses are running for the moment until the city CLOWNSIL approves the grant to have security officers on every D-DOT busses. But a NO vote could mean the end of D-DOT bus service for a long time. |
Professorscott Member Username: Professorscott
Post Number: 389 Registered: 12-2006
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 12:20 pm: | |
From Freep.com: Detroit City Council voted 5-4 this morning to approve a resolution authorizing Wayne County Sheriff’s deputies to provide security on city buses. The contract is for $11.6 million over three years. Voting in favor of having the deputies patrol the buses was: Council President Kenneth Cockrel, Monica Conyers, Barbara-Rose Collins, Kwame Kenyatta and Martha Reeves. Voting against the resolution was: JoAnn Watson, Alberta Tinsley-Talabi, Brenda Jones and Shelia Cockrel. |
Leoqueen Member Username: Leoqueen
Post Number: 1574 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 12:21 pm: | |
I just listened to the tape of the Council meeting; am proud to say that I did NOT vote for Monica Conyers. Her behavior was abysmal. What did John see in her? |
Bumble Member Username: Bumble
Post Number: 106 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 12:31 pm: | |
She's 50 years his junior, that's what he saw in her. Hubba, hubba. |