  Nyct Member Username: Nyct Post Number: 38 Registered: 01-2007 |
http://www.opinionjournal.com/ editorial/feature.html?id=1100 10045 interesting article with a few mentions of detroit. the writer opens with "when i went to kindergarten in detroit in 1950 ..." | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 3173 Registered: 10-2004 |
The final paragraph sums it up: quote: | ||
Cman710 Member Username: Cman710 Post Number: 301 Registered: 07-2006 |
For a political junkie like me, that's a really interesting article. The most interesting thing I gleamed from that article is that the "domestic outflow" (non-immigrant) of people from the Detroit-metro area is not significantly higher than the coastal cities, which are still thriving in many ways. Rather, it is the rate of immigrant inflow to the state that is accounting for population loss. Of course, one reaction to this would be to say, "well, we need to attract more immigrants to Detroit," and that would be a great thing. At the same time, part of the reason they are not coming is that they can't find jobs. So it is sort of a chicken and the egg kind of thing. Personally, I think the Detroit area needs to continue to reach out to high-tech companies (and give them tax breaks if necessary). Simultaneously, the city should appeal to Russian and Eastern European immigrants. These immigrants often have a technical educational background to begin with, and are also used to living in cooler climates. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 3174 Registered: 10-2004 |
The vast majority of immigrants are illegal Mexicans and Hondurans. Hardly are there many (legal) immigrants from Eastern Europe since WWI--some 90 years ago. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5486 Registered: 10-2003 |
What does that mean, to you, though? | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 3175 Registered: 10-2004 |
Playing with the figures will illustrate the problems facing Detroit and New York: 1960: Michigan had 18 Congressman and New York had 43, while Florida had 8 and Arizona 2. Michigan's population was roughly nine times that of Arizona, and New York was some 5.4 times that of Florida. Estimated 2012 figures: MI 14, NY 27, FL 27, and AZ 10 Congressmen. Now Florida and New York will be roughly equal in population, and MI is only 1.4 times that of AZ (down from nine times). It's not expected that most recent DPS grads would make much sense from these numbers, but most others should get a general feel for the situation. To wit, people are relatively deserting such states and Michigan and New York. Ditto for the rest of the Rust Belt. (Message edited by Livernoisyard on May 09, 2007) | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 895 Registered: 06-2004 |
Hmmm.... he claims that people are leaving the hip cities to live in Phoenix. I think one of the drivers is the aging baby boomers, who as they retire move to warmer, less expensive places. I think the young people want city living. they have for thousands of years and they always will. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5553 Registered: 10-2003 |
It's not just baby boomers, and they aren't just moving to Phoenix, they are moving (in droves) to Atlanta and Chicago and Dallas and... There is a reason that a little over 1,000 Detroiters (city residents), for instance, are leaving every month, and only a few hundred of those are ending up in the metro, and most of these are the young middle class. (Message edited by lmichigan on May 29, 2007) |
