Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 263 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:31 pm: | |
I attended the screening of the Ralph Nader documentary 'An unreasonable man' at the Detroit Film Theatre last night. Ralph Nader made an onstage appearance and answered audience member questions. The documentary and what Mr. Nader had to say was very informative and educational. Mr. Nader discussed Corporate manipulation and control of elections and the ongoing conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. I was aware of Mr.Naders involvement in Auto Safety improvements and awareness but didn't realize his organizations involvement in work place safety regulations; workers right to know law; and myriad consumer issues. Anyone from Detroit Yes discussion attend? |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 973 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:39 pm: | |
I think Nader is an intelligent guy and I like hearing him speak...he sometimes makes some good points.. At the same time, I have a hard time taking a someone seriously runs for president on the idea that all personal income should be capped at $107,000, especially when that someone is a millionaire |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 266 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:47 pm: | |
I wasn't aware of that. Where did you get that info? I know several social democracies have caps on what top executives make. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 974 Registered: 06-2006
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:02 pm: | |
it's part of the Green Party platform...100% tax on any personal income over 10 times the minimum wage, which is currently about $107k... if you go to their website and checkout their platform, you should be able to find it...last time I saw it was fairly recently... and yes, I realize he didn't run on the Green Party platform in '04, just in '00 when he received 3% of the popular vote... |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 5241 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:39 pm: | |
jjaba saw the movie at another place, but without Nader present. A campaign offical talked about Nader, and his expereicnes in running the super-rallies in nine cities. jjaba thought the movie was well done. |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 1958 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 7:50 pm: | |
He may be a millionaire but he's notoriously frugal. I wish we had more like him. |
Eastside_charlie Member Username: Eastside_charlie
Post Number: 34 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:45 pm: | |
Nader is a tax sucking bleeding heart well neer doer socialist. If that is your bag well than more power to you. Other than that he is a real good guy. ps: his face is twisted, because he slept on a plane head against wall and caused his nerves to f-up his face when he talks. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 5243 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:18 am: | |
Eastside_charlie, welcome to The Forum. If Nader brought us air bag safety technology, then jjaba's a socialist. If Nader brought us universal seat belt laws and forced auto makers to install them, (Michigan leads the way in use), then jjaba's a socialist. If Nader brought us padded dash boards, then jjaba's a socialist. If Nader brought us the collapsing steering wheel and column, then jjaba's a socialist. If Nader got us steel re-inforced doors in cars, then jjaba's a socialist. jjaba, count me amongst the socialist hoardes. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 5398 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 3:28 am: | |
BTW, Charlie, I think you mean a ne're-do-well. If he never does anyone, it would be pretty hard to hate him. |
Hardliner Member Username: Hardliner
Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 8:18 am: | |
What we need is a Populist, like we had when Theodore Roosevelt was President. and put this nation back on track. -Hardliner A Populist till I die! http://thepopulistblog.com (Message edited by hardliner on April 21, 2007) (Message edited by hardliner on April 21, 2007) |
Harpernottingham Member Username: Harpernottingham
Post Number: 175 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 8:52 pm: | |
The most disturbing part about that movie is how they wouldn't let him even attend the 2000 Bush/Gore debate in Boston. Not even as a private citizen. The Massachusetts State Police barred the door to Nader, even though he had a ticket to the event. They pushed, he pushed back (figuratively), but when push came to shove and they asked him if he wanted to be arrested, he calmly said, "Of course not." He defused the situation, but it was simply incomprehensible they did that to him. Long live Nader's Raiders. |
Terryh Member Username: Terryh
Post Number: 267 Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 1:28 pm: | |
Ralph Nader is not a socialist (he was extremely critical of pure socialist societies after being asked a question by a Socialist Party candidate) he simply argues that corporations have to significant an influence in American government. |
Dan Member Username: Dan
Post Number: 1382 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 2:06 pm: | |
I was there. Great movie, great Q&A. I loved how Nader responded to the crowd. He was funny, precise, and allowed others to express views and even offer him some debate. I really enjoyed the night. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 5257 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 4:27 pm: | |
Good report Dan. Where was it held and how far back were you? How's Ralph looking? Presidential? When Al Gore gets in, it would be amazing if Ralph was back in again. That would be classical definition of "fucking nightmare", eh. jjaba. |
Troy Member Username: Troy
Post Number: 203 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:43 pm: | |
I was there as well and was quite pleased with the film and the level of his discussion. The only thing odd was the level of strange questions from those wanting their points to get across and random odd loud noises from a person in the crowd. Got to love the statement of the lady telling Nader that she is tired of women being called and treated like sluts, whores or objects. Ralph did a good job complementing those people and keeping the needed information flowing. |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 98 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:22 pm: | |
I remember seeing Ralph Nader back in 1969 at a speaker's event held in the cafeteria at Schoolcraft College. I sat two rows from him while he explained that one one of the most dangerous missiles in America at the time was a hot dog. I guess he must of had one at the cafeteria!!! It was hard to take him seriously after I heard that. He did bring some needed attention to car safety but also help bring us George Bush. Now that guy has definitely been more dangerous to America than a hot dog!! |
Itsjeffsmom Member Username: Itsjeffsmom
Post Number: 7 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:57 am: | |
I was at the Detroit Film Theater that night, also,and was very impressed by the documenetary and Ralph's Q and A session. He's not a man I'd like to argue with as he has total command of facts, and also total command of a room. He seemed charming, intelligent, and I was surprised to see a sense of humor from such a serious,dedicated man. I don't think he helped bring us George Bush. I think Al Gore helped bring us George Bush. Favorite quote: If you're voting for the lesser of 2 evils you're still voting for evil. |
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 107 Registered: 05-2004
| Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 8:03 pm: | |
Ralph was on an ego trip and while Gore might not have been the greatest president I doubt we would led our country down the rat hole it's in now. Nader is a smart guy but he shouldn't be running for president. |
Whisper128 Member Username: Whisper128
Post Number: 3 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:25 am: | |
I was at the screening at the DFT. He made a lot of interesting points. In particular, it was interesting when he responded (in the film) to the claim about the election. Apparently, even the smallest party (I think it was the communist party) garnered more votes than the amount needed to put the democrats over the top. |