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Terryh
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I attended the screening of the Ralph Nader documentary 'An unreasonable man' at the Detroit Film Theatre last night. Ralph Nader made an onstage appearance and answered audience member questions. The documentary and what Mr. Nader had to say was very informative and educational. Mr. Nader discussed Corporate manipulation and control of elections and the ongoing conflict between Israelis and Palestinians. I was aware of Mr.Naders involvement in Auto Safety improvements and awareness but didn't realize his organizations involvement in work place safety regulations; workers right to know law; and myriad consumer issues. Anyone from Detroit Yes discussion attend?
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Thejesus
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think Nader is an intelligent guy and I like hearing him speak...he sometimes makes some good points..

At the same time, I have a hard time taking a someone seriously runs for president on the idea that all personal income should be capped at $107,000, especially when that someone is a millionaire
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Terryh
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wasn't aware of that. Where did you get that info? I know several social democracies have caps on what top executives make.
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Thejesus
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it's part of the Green Party platform...100% tax on any personal income over 10 times the minimum wage, which is currently about $107k...

if you go to their website and checkout their platform, you should be able to find it...last time I saw it was fairly recently...

and yes, I realize he didn't run on the Green Party platform in '04, just in '00 when he received 3% of the popular vote...
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Jjaba
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba saw the movie at another place, but without Nader present. A campaign offical talked about Nader, and his expereicnes in running the super-rallies in nine cities.

jjaba thought the movie was well done.
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Jimaz
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He may be a millionaire but he's notoriously frugal. I wish we had more like him.
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Eastside_charlie
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Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 10:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nader is a tax sucking bleeding heart well neer doer socialist.
If that is your bag well than more power to you.
Other than that he is a real good guy.
ps: his face is twisted, because he slept on a plane head against wall and caused his nerves to f-up his face when he talks.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eastside_charlie, welcome to The Forum.

If Nader brought us air bag safety technology, then jjaba's a socialist.

If Nader brought us universal seat belt laws and forced auto makers to install them, (Michigan leads the way in use), then jjaba's a socialist.

If Nader brought us padded dash boards, then jjaba's a socialist.

If Nader brought us the collapsing steering wheel and column, then jjaba's a socialist.

If Nader got us steel re-inforced doors in cars, then jjaba's a socialist.

jjaba, count me amongst the socialist hoardes.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW, Charlie, I think you mean a ne're-do-well. If he never does anyone, it would be pretty hard to hate him. :-)
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Hardliner
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 8:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What we need is a Populist, like we had when Theodore Roosevelt was President. and put this nation back on track.

-Hardliner
A Populist till I die!
http://thepopulistblog.com

(Message edited by hardliner on April 21, 2007)

(Message edited by hardliner on April 21, 2007)
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Harpernottingham
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Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 8:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The most disturbing part about that movie is how they wouldn't let him even attend the 2000 Bush/Gore debate in Boston. Not even as a private citizen. The Massachusetts State Police barred the door to Nader, even though he had a ticket to the event. They pushed, he pushed back (figuratively), but when push came to shove and they asked him if he wanted to be arrested, he calmly said, "Of course not."

He defused the situation, but it was simply incomprehensible they did that to him.

Long live Nader's Raiders.
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Terryh
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ralph Nader is not a socialist (he was extremely critical of pure socialist societies after being asked a question by a Socialist Party candidate) he simply argues that corporations have to significant an influence in American government.
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Dan
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was there.

Great movie, great Q&A. I loved how Nader responded to the crowd. He was funny, precise, and allowed others to express views and even offer him some debate.

I really enjoyed the night.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good report Dan.
Where was it held and how far back were you?
How's Ralph looking? Presidential?

When Al Gore gets in, it would be amazing if Ralph was back in again. That would be classical definition of "fucking nightmare", eh.

jjaba.
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Troy
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Posted on Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was there as well and was quite pleased with the film and the level of his discussion. The only thing odd was the level of strange questions from those wanting their points to get across and random odd loud noises from a person in the crowd. Got to love the statement of the lady telling Nader that she is tired of women being called and treated like sluts, whores or objects.

Ralph did a good job complementing those people and keeping the needed information flowing.
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Paulmcall
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Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember seeing Ralph Nader back in 1969 at a speaker's event held in the cafeteria at Schoolcraft College.
I sat two rows from him while he explained that one one of the most dangerous missiles in America at the time was a hot dog. I guess he must of had one at the cafeteria!!!
It was hard to take him seriously after I heard that.
He did bring some needed attention to car safety but also help bring us George Bush. Now that guy has definitely been more dangerous to America than a hot dog!!
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Itsjeffsmom
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Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was at the Detroit Film Theater that night, also,and was very impressed by the documenetary and Ralph's Q and A session. He's not a man I'd like to argue with as he has total command of facts, and also total command of a room. He seemed charming, intelligent, and I was surprised
to see a sense of humor from such a serious,dedicated man. I don't think he helped bring us George Bush. I think Al Gore helped
bring us George Bush. Favorite quote: If you're
voting for the lesser of 2 evils you're still
voting for evil.
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Paulmcall
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Posted on Friday, May 04, 2007 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ralph was on an ego trip and while Gore might not have been the greatest president I doubt we would led our country down the rat hole it's in now.
Nader is a smart guy but he shouldn't be running for president.
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Whisper128
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Posted on Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was at the screening at the DFT. He made a lot of interesting points. In particular, it was interesting when he responded (in the film) to the claim about the election. Apparently, even the smallest party (I think it was the communist party) garnered more votes than the amount needed to put the democrats over the top.

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