Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 229 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:27 am: | |
Does anyone recognize this odd looking building? For a larger version of the photo, please click here Ookpik |
Rrl Member Username: Rrl
Post Number: 826 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:36 am: | |
I believe this is/was a house in Grosse Pointe Shores on Lochmoor Drive about 10 houses off Lakeshore. I can't remember the name of the house, but I fairly sure its now been razed and rebuilt w/ a more generic looking McMansion. Seem to recall hearing that they had nothing but constant water & roof leak troubles which may have led to it's demise. |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 1108 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:37 am: | |
West Side, Palmer Woods? Grandmont maybe? |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 380 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:47 am: | |
outer drive? eastside |
Superaygun Member Username: Superaygun
Post Number: 566 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:50 am: | |
looks like a house that used to be down the road from us when we lived in EEV...Outer Drive? Whittier? i want to say Outer Drive... |
Imperfectly Member Username: Imperfectly
Post Number: 233 Registered: 06-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:53 am: | |
It does kind of look like that house right on the corner of outer drive and chandler park. |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 821 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:59 am: | |
A very cool example of Art Moderne architecture. There are not many of these in Detroit because the style was primarily built in the 1930's when the Depression brought much housing expansion to a standstill. Detroit was particularly hardhit. Some other areas of the country less so, and the style is more common. Also, the flat roof design was not particularly well suited to Michigan winters. I would speculate that this house is in Detroit, not the Grosse Pointes. There's a telephone pole at the curb in the picture. That's not very common in the Grosse Pointes. Also, can anybody find the front door for this house? |
Paintnprint Member Username: Paintnprint
Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:01 am: | |
Looks familiar to me as well, so it must be Northeast Detroit, Outer Drive would be my guess as well. Just before Lasher Road. Looks really familiar, and I'm pretty sure it's on Outer Drive. Koko |
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider
Post Number: 388 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:16 am: | |
The attached garage is very uncommon for Detroit. It looks like the one on OD on the east side to me. |
Nativegirl Member Username: Nativegirl
Post Number: 76 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:33 am: | |
Looks like WEST Outer Drive. There is a couple of houses like this: one east of the Southfield. The other west of Livernois. |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 822 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:36 am: | |
There are two very much re-muddled examples of this style on the east side on Chandler Park Drive. One is at Whittier and the other is at Cadieux. Neither are the house in the picture. |
Pamequus Member Username: Pamequus
Post Number: 108 Registered: 07-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:18 am: | |
Boy, it sure looks familiar and since I lived in the Redford area I'm going with the WEST Outer Drive guess!!! |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 1250 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:26 am: | |
For some reason I'm thinking Oakman/Warren Avenue. |
Urbanize Member Username: Urbanize
Post Number: 1258 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 11:43 am: | |
Outer Drive/Whittier/Chandler Park Dr. Thank You. That house is still there. LAst I checked, the owner was renovating it. It looks like a Summer home somewhere in Florida or California though. (Message edited by Urbanize on May 22, 2007) |
Qdaddy77 Member Username: Qdaddy77
Post Number: 25 Registered: 05-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 12:07 pm: | |
Here is a pic of the Whitter/Chandler Park house i dont think its that one, as position of the house/garage dosent fit the picture...same style though
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Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 1483 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 12:14 pm: | |
Well, it sure don't look like Van Dyke, for a change...... |
Esp Member Username: Esp
Post Number: 64 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 12:19 pm: | |
There's a house very similar to this one in Birmingham, but I think it's a modern attempt at a Moderne. |
Lmr Member Username: Lmr
Post Number: 42 Registered: 03-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 2:41 pm: | |
I don't know where it is but it has some close relatives here in Minneapolis/St. Paul. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 931 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 3:34 pm: | |
McNichols between Livernois and Woodward has a house that looks a little like that. With that California/Miami look, I'd say Westside Detroit. |
Paulc Member Username: Paulc
Post Number: 129 Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 3:38 pm: | |
I am pretty sure that house is located on the northeast corner of Cadieux and Chandler Park Drive or very close to that vicinity. Nice rare piece of Art Moderne to Swingline's point. |
Gibran Member Username: Gibran
Post Number: 381 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:16 pm: | |
if that is the one on Chandler Park Drive and Cadieux I think and could be wrong that it belonged to Mr. McCormick a teacher at Denby...but then again I also could be having a senior moment |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 230 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 4:19 pm: | |
I flipped the negative as I am unsure how it is supposed to be. Ookpik |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 487 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 6:21 pm: | |
This house is at E. Outer Dr, and Chandler Park Drive. Drove past it on Monday, and it is currently under renovation. Pic tomorrow. NEXT! |
Terridarlin Member Username: Terridarlin
Post Number: 16 Registered: 02-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 7:12 pm: | |
It looks a lot like the house my friend lived in on Pemberton in Grosse Pointe Park. If I remember correctly it was on the corner of Pemberton & Avondale. |
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81
Post Number: 1446 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 8:09 pm: | |
Yeah, I think it is the one on Whittier/CPD/OD too. Used to drive by there almost every day outta GPP to go to work. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3320 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 9:43 pm: | |
I'm sure it isn't the one at E Outer Drive and Whittier. That one has a semi-circular front room while this one is more of a rounded rectangle. Also, it has a smaller garage than this one. There are a few of these along Outer Drive although some have been significantly remodeled:
I thought this one at Rutherford could be it, but the direction of the shadows and the style of the house behind doesn't match the original picture:
I think there is one somewhere in the neighborhood centered on Chalmers between E Jefferson and the river. The one on Pemberton is another good possibility. |
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64
Post Number: 180 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:19 pm: | |
Corner of OuterDrive and Waveny. Between Mack and E.Warren. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3321 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:29 pm: | |
That's it! |
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain
Post Number: 159 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:33 pm: | |
You have it! |
Homer Member Username: Homer
Post Number: 176 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:36 pm: | |
Way to remuddle Eastsiders above. Gee lets put Canyon Stone over the Stucco, or Aluminum Siding. |
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64
Post Number: 181 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:38 pm: | |
It has wood siding covering it now. I believe it was done in the early 80s after the family who had lived there for years moved out. |
Psip Member Username: Psip
Post Number: 1898 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:41 pm: | |
Homer, Mr. Belvedere taught me it is called Kenyan Stone, I figured it must be imported from Kenya. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3322 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:45 pm: | |
Those pictures I posted were all west side, but the ones on the eastside are just as bad. The one at Whittier has been undergoing renovation for a long time, and I don't think it's going to be a happy ending. |
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64
Post Number: 182 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2007 - 10:47 pm: | |
Ookpik, Where did that photo come from? Would love a jpeg to send to the family who originally lived there. |
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81
Post Number: 1448 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:13 am: | |
Waveny and OD? Are you sure? If the original pic is accurate, then MAYBE, but oopik said the negative was flipped, and thus I don't think its possible (if the 2nd photo is accurate) Waveny and OD: http://maps.live.com/default.a spx?v=2&cp=r1zvfx82p0p8&style= o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-10 00&scene=5633589&encType=1 |
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku
Post Number: 1356 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:23 am: | |
the house on Chandler park used to blow my mind as a kid |
Catman_dude Member Username: Catman_dude
Post Number: 143 Registered: 03-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:34 am: | |
Jerome81, that's the house! Ookpik said he wasn't sure if he had the negative flipped or not because there were no words or any indications as to which side was right. Now if you look at the building (another garage?) next to the house in the original picture, you see a distinctive roof slope which is the same in the link you provided. So the white house is now brown. Even the telephone poles are still there. (Message edited by Catman_Dude on May 23, 2007) |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 231 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 6:53 am: | |
Thanks Chalu64! Cool pix MikeM! I had no idea houses like this existed in Michigan. Chalu64 - The photo, actually a negative, is from my personal collection. Ookpik |
Paintnprint Member Username: Paintnprint
Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:01 am: | |
Good Lord! Is this the worst taste in the World? Art Deco/Bau House to plastic siding AND Canyon Stone? I used to love that house, now I hate it. Why not just paint it orange, and put a gnome in the front yard. "Give him his dignity back!" And why is it that every time Detroit changes for the worse, I like Detroit a little bit less. Regards, Koko |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1331 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:58 am: | |
There is a simular Art Moderne house in Redford township, one block east of Beech-Daly between 5 and 6 mile roads. Not quite as large as the house in this picture. I do hope there is a special room in hell for the owner who thought the plastic siding and canyon stone was an improvement. |
Esp Member Username: Esp
Post Number: 65 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:18 am: | |
Has any good come out of the use of Aluminum as a house building material? |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 823 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:35 am: | |
Wow. Those west side remuddlings are amazingly bad. After the vinyl siding contractor finished the house that is in the last two pictures, is it even possible that the owner stood on the sidewalk and expressed satisfaction over the fabulous new improvements? Oh well, no more worries about painting though, right? |
Karl Member Username: Karl
Post Number: 7560 Registered: 09-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 10:46 am: | |
56packman said: "I do hope there is a special room in hell for the owner who thought the plastic siding and canyon stone was an improvement." Even if there is, you must remember: those owners "have no fear with Belvedere." |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1333 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 11:16 am: | |
Call Tyler 87100 (Message edited by 56packman on May 23, 2007) |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3324 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 2:46 pm: | |
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56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1335 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:10 pm: | |
Oh Gawd--1977 struck there. If it weren't for all of those pesky contours they could have really gone '77 and oriented the boards diagonally. Someone from here went to California in the mid seventies, around Marin county and saw that "look" and brought it back here. ONe big problem: we have these real long, miserable winters that eat that wood alive. Someone please buy this and fix it! then again, the inside is probably equally as re-muddled. |
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64
Post Number: 184 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:28 pm: | |
Great shots, Mike. Any idea which ColdwellBanker office was listing this property? Would love to see some interior shots. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3326 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 4:30 pm: | |
Schweitzer |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 232 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 5:05 pm: | |
Great pix Mike! Then:
Now:
Looks like the telephone pole in front is the same one! Ookpik |
Superaygun Member Username: Superaygun
Post Number: 568 Registered: 04-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 6:26 pm: | |
i used to live down the block from that Outer Drive/Waveney house when i was a small child. it looks like they stained or painted that wood exterior since then. ick. i still feel very strongly that that white house is the one at Whittier and Chandler Park. i always remembered that house because it was so different, and i remember it from the same period as the Waveney/OD house, which also always stood out as well for its wooden exterior. there was a similar white house to the one in the photo next door to us at Outer Drive and Wallingford. not convinced the two pictured are the same house. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 1491 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:06 pm: | |
The original architecture is not unattractive, although it does look a tad like some doctor's office or the like. However, buildings with flat roofs are nothing but maintenance nightmares. They all leak and need constant attention. |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 496 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:21 pm: | |
Looks like I got scooped. I took the same pics as Mikem today, but no sense in being redundant, or being redundant. http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/100_56 93.jpg?t=1179961625 http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/100_56 91.jpg?t=1179961693 http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/100_56 90.jpg?t=1179961723 http://i148.photobucket.com/al bums/s22/bulletmagnet69/100_56 85.jpg?t=11799617 |
Ookpik Member Username: Ookpik
Post Number: 233 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:53 pm: | |
Nice pix Bullet! Thanks for taking the time to take them! That wood "siding" is ugly. Ookpik |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 1493 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 7:58 pm: | |
OOkpik for Governor. Bullet for Lt. Governor. Mikem for President. Things would be much better. |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 498 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:11 pm: | |
Ook, I bet ya under the siding is some pretty bad stucco. Thanks Ray1936, and good work again one and all on Ookpics photo chase. BTW, is this style called "Modern"? |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 1336 Registered: 12-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 8:35 pm: | |
" Art moderne"with an "e" at the end--sometimes erroneously called Art Deco. |
Chalu64 Member Username: Chalu64
Post Number: 185 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:20 pm: | |
Superraygun, that is the same house, the white one. I played for hours in the middle of Waveny to the side of the home, not to mention played on the driveway of that house. I tried to find the house on realtor.com to see if they had any interior pics. MikeM/BMagnet, any idea which ColdwellBanker office was listing the home? It almost looks empty. |
Mikem Member Username: Mikem
Post Number: 3328 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - 9:51 pm: | |
Schweitzer http://www.cbschweitzer.com/ |
Dominic_kingfish Member Username: Dominic_kingfish
Post Number: 19 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 3:09 am: | |
The original photo shows a manhole cover about in the middle of Waveney near that house. The later photo's do not show it. Any speculations on what happened to the manhole/cover ? |
Bulletmagnet Member Username: Bulletmagnet
Post Number: 502 Registered: 01-2007
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 6:01 am: | |
I saw that too. I think it may be an oil stain, or a hole filled with cold patch. |
Kimistree Member Username: Kimistree
Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 6:29 am: | |
The house at Waveney and Outer Drive is indeed empty. This house has been on the market for about 2 years. I remember when we were looking for a house this one was listed at 175.000. I wonder if it's in foreclosure now? There were pictures of the interior when it was originally listed, and I remember it being modern but not horribly remodeled. |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 826 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 11:04 am: | |
That stretch of Outer Drive has many beautiful homes. Prices don't get much above $200K even for the nicest ones. An exterior restoration of the home discussed in this thread would cost at least $75K (including the windows). Unless it can be bought at a huge discount to facilitate a renovation, or a buyer can be found who wants to live there in its remuddled condition, things do not bode well for a sale. It's too bad. If this home were located in a historic district, it would have a much brighter future. Michigan's historic rehab tax credit program would make a renovation much less expensive. |
Hpgrmln Member Username: Hpgrmln
Post Number: 5 Registered: 06-2007
| Posted on Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 6:37 pm: | |
They had one of these on Davis street in Birmingham. They demolished it several years ago. Theyve filled that area up with brand new houses that do not fit onto their lot, and most the old ones are gone. I'm glad to see a few of these houses are still standing in S/E Michigan. I bet their far more solid than half of these new houses in terms of build quality. |