  Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2197 Registered: 07-2004 |
On Friday I noticed a number of cars parked along some of the residential streets in Brush Park. In many of the areas where people parked there weren't any housing and mostly vacant lots. However, if Brush Park is to continue to be redeveloped with residential units, then something has to be done about Lions and Tigers fans use of street parking. When new developments are in place the residents of these units are not going to be very happy about fans using the spaces in front of their units to park 89 days out of the year, especially if they're spending $200,000 or more for a condo or future house. Will the city be forced to provide parking on vacant land in Brush Park to alleviate this situation and forgo building up all of Brush Park with residential units? Will one of the developers slated to build residences change their mind and use the land that they own in Brush Park for parking? How can this problem be solved? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5416 Registered: 10-2003 |
I doubt it. Traffic will simply evolve like it always has. People will actually start paying to park in the countless lots and garages that aren't even filled on game days. This isn't going to be like what Tiger Stadium eventually did to Corktown after the freeways were taken through the area. | ||
Tompage Member Username: Tompage Post Number: 15 Registered: 01-2005 |
No commercial parking, even run by the City, is allowed in Brush Park. A few months ago, the Brush Park Citizens District Council (CDC) unanimously voted down the idea of a city-operated parking lot in Brush Park. There is some movement towards a resident-restricted street parking. Resident-restricted street parking would require signage and vehicle street parking permits. The City's Municipal Parking Department has expressed some support for this. I'm all for encouraging people to park in other parts of town, and taking the People Mover or Bus to the stadia. | ||
Charlottepaul Member Username: Charlottepaul Post Number: 823 Registered: 10-2006 |
Likely the City of Detroit would simply have permit parking at some point for the residents of those units in Brush Park. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 237 Registered: 05-2006 |
I hate resident-restricted street parking! I’ve received numerous tickets in other cities because the signs informing you of such restrictions usually are sparse and are often hidden behind trees or bushes, if they exist at all. It seems to me that the legality of this practice is questionable. They are public streets, after all. | ||
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2006 |
Ramcharger, There is some official Road sign guidebook that MDOT and all other transportation agencies are supposed to follow. If the signs do not meet the specific guidelines for placement (ie, space between signs, blocked by trees and such), you can go to court and get a ticket for the infraction the sign warned against waived. I know this happened in East Lansing due to improperly placed "No Turn on Red" signs. All the person had to do was bring in the code book and and some photos of the intersection. The judge waived the ticket immediately. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8885 Registered: 10-2003 |
If people buy in Brush Park they know they will deal with Lions/Tigers traffic and parking. I don't see any need to make exceptions since they knew the situation and new owners will know the situation when they buy. It is a city, if you find a street spot it's yours, if not drive a block down, repeat until you find a spot. | ||
Skulker Member Username: Skulker Post Number: 3802 Registered: 10-2003 |
Enforce the no parking rules and tow the asshats who violate them. On a bike ride through BP I saw about 7-8 busses idling in front of No Parking / No Standing any time signs right next to $350,000 condos. Have one rookie cop to walk up and down and ticket everyone for a couple months. If that doesn't work, put up tow away zone signs and start towing everyone. Adds revenue to the city and is a basic service that should be provided to residents. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 239 Registered: 05-2006 |
El_jimbo, that’s good advice if you are ticketed in the city where you live or one where you spend a lot of time. If, however, you’re ticketed while traveling (I’ve received such tickets in LA, Chicago, Toronto, London and Sydney, Australia) and you’re only in town a few days or a weekend there’s not much you can do. Additionally, if you received the ticket on a rented vehicle the rental agency will often simply pay the ticket and bill your credit card for reimbursement, leaving you with little recourse. | ||
El_jimbo Member Username: El_jimbo Post Number: 101 Registered: 12-2006 |
That is true. However, as long as you are in the US, the code for the signing should be the same. If you happen to have time you can get out of it. | ||
Skulker Member Username: Skulker Post Number: 3804 Registered: 10-2003 |
If you have time to get out of the ticket, you have time to park properly and walk the extra block. | ||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 289 Registered: 10-2003 |
the greatest affront to urban detroit are the yukons and durangos on game day parked cowl to cowl along woodward, creating an unholy street wall of steel, rubber and CO2. tax those lots mighty! impose enforceable design guidelines. | ||
Ro_resident Member Username: Ro_resident Post Number: 219 Registered: 11-2003 |
The guide you are thinking of is the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD): http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/kno- 2003r1.htm | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2559 Registered: 10-2003 |
As a resident that neighborhood for 7 years, I can tell you that the parking regulations are extremely tightly enforced. They tow and ticket personnel vehicles with a reckless abandon on game days. Busses are a separate issue. They are usually allowed to park in the freeway service drive no parking zones. The residents who buy there do know what they are in for when it comes to the stadium parking issue. Most moved there specifically because of the easy access to the stadiums. We as residents have very good coping strategies for this issue. We all have Tigers and Lions schedules stuck to our fridges. When ever I invited guests over I consulted the schedule and adjusted mine to avoid conflicts. If I was expecting guests during the game I would make sure to park my car on the street well before hand to free up my designated spaces. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 825 Registered: 06-2005 |
Thanks Ndavies... that is exactly what I wanted to say. Besides, EVERYONE in Brush Park has a garage! Park in your fricken Garage... | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2200 Registered: 07-2004 |
Detroitduo, tell that to your guests on one of the 89 days out of the year. The problem also exists on the west side of Woodward. Where are all those cars going to park once Woodward is built up between the Fisher Fwy and Temple. Has the idea of shuttle busses taking sports fans from the State Fairgrounds to the games ever been passed around? For years when people were talking about what to do with the State Fairgrounds I kept thinking, "Why not use the grounds for parking for Tigers and Lions' games?" Charge a shuttle fee for a group of four or less for a round trip ticket for what you would charge for parking a car. I think fans would love it. It would definitely clear up the need to park. This might all be a mute point, however, once fans realize that they can park over at the permanent MGM Grand Casino parking structure for free. I wonder if MGM Grand had anticipated this when they built all those parking spaces for their permanent casino? I'm curious if they have a way to stop sports fans from using their facilities or will they just make room? A built up Brush Park and Cass Corridor will have to address these issues. Also, if a hockey arena is built behind the Fox, that's also going to be a concern. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 827 Registered: 06-2005 |
It's funny, my visitors never seem to have a problem... and we always warn that there's a game and we coordinate their arrival time, such that they can get a parking spot OR I park my car on the street, such that they can park in my garage. It is a situation we live with and when you WANT to live in the City or near the stadia, this is what you have to deal with. It is known to us and accepted. If this is an UNacceptable situation to you, then don't move here! | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8894 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: It's a f'in city. People that live there and people that come down for events need to realize that one day. If only we had the luxury of having not enough parking spots. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 5420 Registered: 10-2003 |
Jt1, I could not agree more. If only downtown Detroit had the 'problem' of too little parking. It's absolutely crazy to even imply that parking is becoming a problem. Downtown Detroit has enough parking (and enough convenient parking, at that) to last through many more years of development. lol I can't believe anyone is talking about a 'problem' when the lots around the stadium aren't even packed on freakin' game days. Give me a break. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2202 Registered: 07-2004 |
Lmichigan, when was the last time you attended a Tigers or Lions game? Parking is a problem for the individual who choses to park on a residential street in Brush Park only to return to find his or her car broken into and personal items stolen. How do you, Lmichigan, and your friend Skulker convince people to utilize all of those so-called available parking spaces downtown, when for some reason folks keep parking on residential streets in Brush Park? (Message edited by royce on April 24, 2007) | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8916 Registered: 10-2003 |
What is a residential street? People that chose to live near stadiums know that parking will be an issue during game days. They know that when they purchase. I really have no idea why you see this as an issue. Two people that live in Brush Park have stated it is a non-issue to them. It is a city. If people want to be certain of never having to deal with looking for a parking spot there are other places in the city or metro region that will accomodate that. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1377 Registered: 11-2003 |
I can't believe people are complaining. Detroit sporting events might be the EASIEST and CHEAPEST I've ever been to. I have not yet been to another city sporting even where I can park only a block or two away, pay $5 for the whole stinkin thing, then jump immediately onto 4 freeways to get wherever the hell you need to go. People park in Brush Park because it is close, and it is free. What's wrong with that? It is a city. Go to any other big city. So many cars parked on the street it is often hard to find a space. Detroit has so much freakin cheap, free, and easy parking, garages and surface streets, that I can't imagine people complaining. In my opinion, cars parked on the street are the signs of a healthy large city. Same with traffic. There isn't a healthy, vibrant city in the world that doesn't have bad traffic and cars parked all over the streets. Detroit can use more of both. | ||
Yooper Member Username: Yooper Post Number: 27 Registered: 12-2006 |
With the way the Tigers are drawing fans this year, they should probably build some additional parking garages in Brush Park, as long as they are built in the Victorian style. It would be a nice revenue generator, and if they are built tastefully (Victorian), they would blend right in with the rest of the neighborhood. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 660 Registered: 04-2006 |
This is so a non-issue. Take a bus. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1574 Registered: 11-2003 |
Victorian parking garage????? WTF, seriously is this where this forum is heading? | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2562 Registered: 10-2003 |
Yooper, there is already adequate parking for events at both Tiger stadium and Ford field on the same day. No parking decks need to be built in brush park for the stadiums. Please remember a sold out Ford field holds at least 30% more people than a sold out Comerica park. | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 173 Registered: 11-2006 |
There is plenty of parking. All you need to do is use the two legs attached to your body and walk from where you park. I don't get this Michigan/Detroit aversion to walking. | ||
Fareastsider Member Username: Fareastsider Post Number: 344 Registered: 08-2006 |
Victorian parking garage!?!?! LOL! | ||
6nois Member Username: 6nois Post Number: 176 Registered: 11-2006 |
I am not even going to touch that one. LOL. | ||
Yooper Member Username: Yooper Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2006 |
Man, you guys are really laying into me on this idea! It seems like people really like the Victorian element of Brush Park, and there is a need for more parking, so it doesn't take a genius to put two and two together. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 11523 Registered: 10-2003 |
...homicides are down 27% thus far this year. | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 298 Registered: 08-2004 |
Why would you build a parking garage in Brush Park? It's a residential neighborhood that's finally being revitalized. Why ruin it when there are is already plenty of parking in the CBD, and plenty of surface lots in the CBD that could be converted if needed. The main reason people park in Brush Park is because the majority of it is free. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 830 Registered: 06-2005 |
Actually, I lost the purpose for this thread... or was there a purpose in the beginning? Fact is, we in Brush Park choice to live here, because it is close to Downtown and the Stadia. Given that chose, we realize we live in a City and that street parking is for everyone. Name calling aside, have you ever been to Chicago cubbies stadium? That neighborhood is packed with cars and there are people walking EVERYWHERE... That was the whole purpose for Detroit building the stadia the way they did! It's called "Social Interaction", something I think a few people on this forum are lacking! Seriously, I don't see what the problem is? I guess it takes someone from Rosedale Park to inform me I have a problem, because before I didn't know it.... I must be a moron, too. | ||
Gargoyle Member Username: Gargoyle Post Number: 70 Registered: 04-2006 |
You're not a moron, Detroitduo. People who have visited other cities and experienced the severe lack of parking at any price perhaps have more appreciation for the endless supply we seem to have. And let us not forget that some people are not willing to walk even one block from their car to an event. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 662 Registered: 04-2006 |
"Fact is, we in Brush Park choice to live here, because it is close to Downtown and the Stadia. Given that chose, we realize we live in a City and that street parking is for everyone. " I don't usually do this but that's one hilarious typo. How did that happen?! lol. | ||
Motorcitydave Member Username: Motorcitydave Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2004 |
I live 2 blocks from the stadiums, and have guests over for games all the time, and they NEVER have a problem finding a place to park, and usually for free. Parking is definitely NOT a problem downtown... we have more surface lots and garages than there are cars in a 30 mile radius...LOL!!! j/k. Are there meters in the Brush Park area? If not, maybe add meters, and put a 1 or 2 hour limit, and a 9pm or 10pm time on them, and add Sundays too. (Message edited by MotorCityDave on April 25, 2007) | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8918 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: No and no. It is a residential neighborhood. Street parking is first come, first serve whether it be a resident, guest or someone else parking for any other reason. ON any given day there are plenty of spots to park regardless of the sporting event. It seems to me people are so fucking lazy that they won't consider walking but so fucking cheap that they don't want to pay for the location. Next time anyone complaining is at a game/event post here and I will find 100 spots that are available. This is one of the dumbest posts ever and I agree with Skulker being as ass about it. People bitch that Detroit is too empty or dead but once they have to walk a block to park they bitch that it is too inconvenient. Anyone that chooses to live within blocks of a stadium and bitches about parking on game day is an idiot as well. It would be no different than people moving to a rural area then bitching about animal smell or someone moving next to the airport and bitching about noise. Royce - Did you have to walk too far too a game? Is that your true motivation for this thread? | ||
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077 Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2006 |
My favorite place to park for games is the compuware lot. All you have to do is have a beer at Hard Rock, and they'll validate your ticket. Easy, secure, for the most part free (I was going to have the beer anyways). | ||
Danindc Member Username: Danindc Post Number: 2402 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: I don't agree with this. Just because you choose to live in an urban neighborhood, does not mean you should be forced to have your neighborhood inundated with the cars of suburbanites looking for free parking. There are already entirely too many places to park downtown--let 'em walk a couple blocks. This thread falls under the recurring theme of who the City of Detroit is trying to serve--its residents, or the suburbanites who come into town for a game. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2205 Registered: 07-2004 |
Thanks, Danindc, finally a voice of reason. My intent in writing this thread was to question what to do about parking once Brush Park is built up. For now there aren't enough residents to make parking on residential streets an issue, but what will happen when there are more residents? I remember when residents of Corktown had to get "resident only" parking signs to curtail Tigers fans going to Tiger Stadium from parking in front of their homes. These residents were tired of losing their parking spaces to lazy and cheap fans who were only trying to park for free. According to many of this forum, these residents didn't have a right to complain. They should have just been happy with the inconvenience because they knew they were living near a stadium. Besides, all of that activity indicated that people were willing to visit Detroit and spend money. Why let those selfish Corktown residents stop that from happening? The other thing to keep in mind is that once the west side of Woodward is built up, where are those fans going to park? Will more fans just fill up the residential streets on the east side of Woodward once the current surface lots along Woodward are filled up with buildings? When this happens then parking does become a problem. This was the other point I was trying to make, but some of you either didn't understand what I was trying to say of just wanted to be asses and not think. It simply amazes me how nothing bothers you folks. Nothing is ever a big deal, except threads on race. BTW, Jt1, how in the hell can you be on this forum and not know what a "residential" street is? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8920 Registered: 10-2003 |
Royce - I was asking what would differentiate a street parking spot for residential only and open to all. Yes, it is a residential street but advocating for resident only parking is stupid. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8921 Registered: 10-2003 |
Royce - Tiger Stadium and the downtown stadia are very different in terms of parking. There is more than ample parking for a Tigers and Lions game to be going on at the same time. Comparing apples to oranges doesn't help your silly crusade. | ||
Bpjeff Member Username: Bpjeff Post Number: 62 Registered: 01-2006 |
As a Brush Park resident I do not mind the parking situation on game days and it was something I expected (and took into consideration) before I moved into the neighborhood. What annoys me are the folks who throw their trash all over and urinate in full public view. Last Sunday a guy, 30ish, with his wife and two small kids did his thing next to his SUV parked on John R. He either did not realize, or he didn't care, that he was in full view of us living in the Carlton. That stuff I can do without! | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2208 Registered: 07-2004 |
Jt1, explain to me how parking for Tiger Stadium is different from parking for the downtown stadia if Brush Park was built up with houses or townhouses on every block? That's what my "silly" crusade is about, but you keep distorting what I'm trying to present here. Again, how do you handle parking for the downtown stadia when there are homes or residences on every block in Brush Park? What happens when the surface parking lots along Woodward disappear? | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2209 Registered: 07-2004 |
Bpjeff, you make a good point about the public urination. When I was in Brush Park during a Friday night Tigers game, I saw these guys immediately get out of there cars and started pouring beer into their tall plastic cups. This was the impetus for this thread. If I'm living in Brush Park and raising a family, do I want my kids to see public urination or folks drinking alcohol right outside my residence? No, so one of the reasons for creating this thread. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 421 Registered: 11-2006 |
Glad you mention your reason for starting the thread on the 58TH POST! | ||
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077 Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2006 |
If you were really concerned about keeping those types of images from your children maybe you should move into a neighborhood three blocks from the stadia. | ||
Buzzman0077 Member Username: Buzzman0077 Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2006 |
"shouldn't" | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 264 Registered: 12-2003 |
Parking at the State Fair and taking a shuttle to the ballgame is a stupid idea. And people who live downtown have had to deal with crackheads & hobos pissing and shitting (as well as drinking) in public for years. Those folks do it 24/7/365, not just after a ballgame. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 3826 Registered: 10-2003 |
Ah, the "problems" we face. Isn't it great? Eight years ago one could have shot a canon through Brush Park and not hit a person, only clip off a lot of weeds. Okay, maybe a dope dealer if it flew across the corner of Erskine and John R. How great it is to see downtown come back! | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2210 Registered: 07-2004 |
Shark, during the Winter Blast during the Super Bowl people were bussed in from Macomb Mall and other locations. Many praised this as a good idea. So, Shark what made that such a good idea, but my idea of bussing folks into the ballgames from the State Fairgrounds such a stupid idea? | ||
Bpjeff Member Username: Bpjeff Post Number: 64 Registered: 01-2006 |
Shark, Crackheads and hobos pissing and shitting is totally different then those who leave a ballgame (with toilets) and head to their homes (with toilets). | ||
Mg2007 Member Username: Mg2007 Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2006 |
Do hobos and crackheads really piss and shit @ brush pak?? I hope your joking | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 265 Registered: 12-2003 |
quote: I wrote "people who live downtown". Please learn to read. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 8922 Registered: 10-2003 |
quote: People go to one of the thousands and thousands and thousands of deck spots. This is so fucking stupid it is painful. | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 266 Registered: 12-2003 |
quote: Because that was a once in a lifetime event? And it was necessary to get a few hundred thousand people downtown when most of the streets were blocked off. And as I recall, that bussing was a logistical nightmare. Your idea is stupid because who the hell wants to park at the State Fair and ride a shuttle to the ballgame? Seriously. This is not Disney World. There is ample parking downtown (both free and chargable, both near the stadium and not-so near). Royce, what make you think that "fans would love it"? By the way, nice to see that Skulker's post was deleted. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1381 Registered: 11-2003 |
The bussing was the worst POS I've EVER experienced. It was fine to park at Macomb and get in, but after partying downtown and going to that lot near Fort and Washington, and then talking to people who had been waiting in line for hours I nearly lost it. There were THOUSANDS of people who had been waiting hours to get back, and they were gonna wait more hours again. Luckily I was in a large group, we pooled up our money, and luckily found a limo to drive us back to Harper Woods. I could have gotten 8 hours of sleep on the sidewalk before I would have made it back to Macomb. That was just awful. And you know what made it worse? The following day I called the Ford Auditorium underground parking facility and was told they were almost completely EMPTY. I drove down, went into the garage, and got my pick of a gazillion empty parking spaces. I suspect this was similar to a lot of other garages around the city, even during the Super Bowl. Bottom line, there are PLENTY of places to park downtown. Likely for decades. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2212 Registered: 07-2004 |
I remember on this forum someone saying how convenient it was to catch the subway/L in Chicago to see Cubs and White Sox games. These folks were able to leave their cars at home and go to the games without having to worry about paying for parking or worrying about where to park their car. If I lived in Pontiac and wanted to go to a game and heard that I could park at the State Fairgrounds and take a shuttle, I'd do it because I wouldn't have to worry about trying to worry about finding a place to park or take the chance and park on a residential street and get my car broken into. Then after the game I wouldn't have to worry about the hassle of being in traffic jams while leaving. I save on gas and the headaches associated with dealing with a sporting event. That's why I think it's not a bad idea. Not for you folks that have to drink you asses off during and after the game, I can understand how taking a shuttle could be an inconvenience. You can't pee on those busses after the game and they require you to shorten your drinking time after the game. BTW, did anyone drive down Woodward during the weekend the White Sox were in town. The traffic congestion up and down Woodward was ridiculous. If I was riding a shuttle I definitely would not have been as stress as those drivers going to the games. I would have been there on time and wouldn't have to worry about where I parked my car. What's wrong with not having to deal with that stress? | ||
Leland_palmer Member Username: Leland_palmer Post Number: 300 Registered: 08-2004 |
Don't forget that the closure of the Lodge contributed to a lot of that congestion. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2564 Registered: 10-2003 |
Royce, you're looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. There is no problem finding parking near the stadiums. None of the brush park residents who have posted here have an issue with the parking situation. If they don't, Why should you? The traffic problem on Woodward last saturday was due to the tigers, an opera and a supercross event at Ford Field. I was there on Saturday. There was plenty of parking available even with a tigers game, an opera and the supercross all on the same day. | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1124 Registered: 10-2003 |
and lets not forget that the bridge over 75 is being rebuilt so woodward is down to one lane in each direction. besides the fact that a shuttle bus would be stuck in that traffic with everyone else. this just cracks me up. the people that live in the neighborhood are telling someone that it's not a problem. yet this thread is still going on trying to convince those people and others that there is, they just don't know it. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2213 Registered: 07-2004 |
RSA and Ndavies, my concern deals with the future. Yes, I can agree that there is not a serious parking problem in Brush Park now. However, what happens when there are thousands of additional residents and when the west side of Woodward is no longer available for parking, how do you handle the parking then? As someone interested in moving to Brush Park, it is a concern. Too say work around the Tigers or Lions schedule during those 89 days is OK for some, but if an important event like an anniversary or graduation occurs the same day as a game, you don't want to have to plan events at your home three hours earlier to beat the sports crowd, or strategically place cones or milk crates in front of your home to give your guests someplace to park. I like to entertain guests at my home on Friday evenings. If a Tiger game is at the same time and I lived in Brush Park, there is no way I can tell my guests to come three hours earlier. So, according to most of you I just have to accept scheduling these Friday evening events on Fridays when the Tigers aren't playing or live someplace else because suburbanites can't find the Millender Garage to park their car in, instead of parking in front of my residents? Well, I guess that's what I would HAVE to do if I lived in Brush Park since people need free parking near the stadiums. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2571 Registered: 10-2003 |
It's simple, If you don't like the parking situation as it is, don't move there. I think the odds of you changing it are slim to none. You're correct. It's only going to get worse. We'd have to ignore all the stupid posts from you about it. All you would do is bitch about it. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2572 Registered: 10-2003 |
And I think DetroitDuo would be appreciative of you not being their neighbor. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 2214 Registered: 07-2004 |
RSA, the shuttle bus driver would know the roads, so he or she would know how to get around the traffic. Also, the shuttle could drop people off and pick them up a couple blocks away and they could walk to the stadia. Now, due to popular demand this is my last post on this subject.  | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2003 |
You would need multiple shuttles, at least a dozen or more. Or perhaps busses. Who would run these shuttles? A private company or the City of Detroit? We've seen the results of mass transit provided by the city, but what private company would sink the necessary money into this? If a shuttle would drop people off a few blocks away from the stadium, why the hell would they take it? | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 2160 Registered: 10-2003 |
I saw the cars parked everywhere in Brush Park for the Tiger games last season. One thing that really concerned me were the cars parking in front of people's driveways, entrances to parking areas, alleys, fire hydrants, parked in the street where no parking signs were clearly posted causing the street to become too narrow for a fire truck to get down, etc. I don't know if that's happening this year or if the police are ticketing and towing folks like that. I could imagine the city making quite a bundle off of towing fees, impound fees, tickets, etc. as they do in most cities. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 832 Registered: 06-2005 |
Yes, the cops are out writing tickets to those stupid people who have no idea how to park correctly. Honestly, I don't understand what Royce is complaining about. When B.P. has thousands of residents, parking will become a problem. yes, but there is nothing to be done about it. Sure, Residential Permit parking could be regulated, but it will change NOTHING. If you are having a party and you don't want your guests to have to park blocks away or have to walk, etc... Then go to a Detroit neighborhood, where such things are possible. In B.P., you can forget about it. Such a "convinience" you will not find here. Regardless, My posting on this topic is done, too. it's stupid, to say the least. | ||
Rsa Member Username: Rsa Post Number: 1127 Registered: 10-2003 |
so royce, a few blocks away from the stadium? say in brush park? and to stop you before you respond, every other direction a few blocks away is jammed too. honestly, was that a real response or are you just arguing to argue? nevermind, i'm done with this thread too. i feel slightly dumber for participating in it. | ||
Skulker Member Username: Skulker Post Number: 3816 Registered: 10-2003 |
Considering there are multiple decks such as the newish one between Millender and Comerica Tower that are largely vacant during games, I imagine that folks will eventually figure that out and start parking there if it becomes a real problem. Thats the beauty of the free market. If there is a way to make money as people get squeezed out of free parking, some non-moron will figure out a way to make money | ||
Bpjeff Member Username: Bpjeff Post Number: 71 Registered: 01-2006 |
If anyone is interested in moving to BP and is afraid of the parking situation on game days, I recommend moving to North BP. Parking is generally only a problem on Opening Day. |
