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Mauser765
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Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Heyo - is eap still round somewhere ?
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Supersport
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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 1:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know where he lives. We should all meet up for tea and crumpettes sometime.
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Mauser765
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Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He doesnt post anymore ?

hm. Yeah, Ill email you Sport.
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Itsjeff
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Posted From: 69.136.149.133
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

(sigh) Let the healing begin.
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 925
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 11:07 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This place is like an elementary school, where all the kids surround two guys chanting "fight fight fight!"....heh.

itsJeff - you want me to go back to being Satan765 ?
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That was YOU? Man, do I owe Kathleen an apology.
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 926
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Posted From: 68.40.44.168
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 7:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whaaaa ? Does she hate me know TOO ? Damn....
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Jim
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Post Number: 977
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Posted From: 68.43.27.192
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, I love you.. or is that just inappropriate.
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 927
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Posted From: 4.229.27.108
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lmao @jim

btw - I promise I'll get my damn backyard in order so it dont look like ass while youre showing your house. Ive been stuck inside fixing my basement for 3 months.

Black asbestos mastic-atcha...
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Aiw
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Posted From: 24.57.57.12
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That stuff is great! I had it on the floor of my master bedroom.
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Mauser765
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HOW DID YOU REMOVE IT !!!!!?!?!?!
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Itsjeff
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You're making quite an assumption there, Mauser.
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Mauser765
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the asbestos ?

Woah, Im getting lost in my own thread..

Hey - I saw you the other day crossing Woodward headed for CM to watch the lunchtime concert - I yelled but was already to far down the road.
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Aiw
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Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 11:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How did I remove it?

We scraped as much off as possible, then I rented a big pad sander from Home Depot, and went to town on it. It ate through pads, gumming them up like crazy. It cost me about $100 in pads, but the crap is all off the floor.

Good luck.
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 931
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Posted From: 4.229.27.200
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 8:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phew - nasty.

Ive been using soy bean oil, so far so good - but whatamess. The black mastic from my houses build era is actually water based so its immune to traditional solvents.

http://franmar.com/

This stuff is working really good, but not quite as easily (in my case) as it says on the website. So far its the only thing that dissolves this evil crap.

Off topic ? Actually this is some of the stuff I wanted ask eap about. But I guess the "Ask eap Show" isnt on the radio anymore. lol
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Aiw
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 10:06 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As for being water based, we found that too... A wire brush, and lots of water can also be used with a small amount of sucess.

We actually switch to water over comercially avialable solvents, seeing as the sucess rate wasn't that much different.

Give good old water a shot Mauser.
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Aiw
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 10:15 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a few shots for those reading who don't know what we're talking about.



After we ripped up the carpet, we found Linoleum tiles on the floor (white).



The asbestos laden mastic was used to secure the tiles to the hardwood floor.



Solvents, scrapers and a nylon brush were used to get off as much as we could. As I said we gave up on solvents and switched to water with almost identical results.



We got it to the stage in the photo above, and went with the sander to get the remains.



As soon as the floor was done, we switched to the ceiling...

Old-house-atcha!
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Detroitteacher
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Post Number: 586
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Posted From: 152.163.100.8
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those look like my floors prior to my sanding the hell out of them. Didn't know it was asbestos, though. It was gummy, made a horrid mess of the sanding pad. Looked like some type of varnish, though (I have a 1920 house). I learned something new today! Now I am going to die from inhaling all that asbestos laden crap!
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 933
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Posted From: 4.229.27.127
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1

Heres what I am starting with. Entire basement, the house is about 52X52 feet square so thats the area Im dealing with. I have a leak issue I am struggling with (a whole utha story) and the water caused the mastic to let go of the tiles. But not water or even scalding hot water quite loosened this crap..So I shucked all the tiles and Im attempting to get down to the concrete.

bean

Heres the soy bean oil - it seems to be working well, seeing how nothing else has.

goop

Mmmmmmmmm....Poisonous !

floor

This is about 1/8th the area that needs to be cleaned, Im trying to go in sections so I dont get overwhelmed (more than I am)
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Detroitteacher
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 11:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine didn't look like it had tile on it at all, at any point...maybe it wasn't asbestos stuff and it was really just some funky old varnish.

I wish you luck. Took me 2 years to finally get everything the way I want it and I still haven't done the kitchen or 2 bedrooms. I did gut the bathroom (which used to be a jelly closet), and stripped 70 years of paint off of all the wood. It was a nightmare, but it looks great now.
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I should have guessed when you started this thread, it was to ask eap's help with your mastik.
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Aiw
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

52 x 52 would blow...

We did maybe 15 x 10, it and it took several months.

Best of luck, I hope your concrete is at least semi-level.
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Itsjeff
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eap just called and asked me to point out a few things:

Mauser and Andrew, your problems are not the same and will be resolved differently. Andrew's mastic is water-based, Mauser's is a solvent.

Andrew's would have been fixed by pouring hot water & soap and letting it soak, then mop it up. It takes about three applications.

Mauser, there's only one product that will work for your problem. It's called, (I swear) "Old Hard Adhesive Remover." It comes in a bright orange can and you can find it in the hardware section at Meijer. It's stinky and caustic (and be sure to shut off any pilot light down there) but works quickly.

(Message edited by itsjeff on September 03, 2006)
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Supersport
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AIW,

That doesn't appear to be your wife in that ceiling picture, fess up!
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 935
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Posted From: 4.229.27.172
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Coolio - thanks for tha eap via itsjeff info.

SS - I was thinking the same thing. heh.
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Aiw
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Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 4:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, that's just some neighborhood prostitute we hired to help scrape the ceiling.
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Toolbox
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Post Number: 979
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Posted From: 69.14.126.173
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 4:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


quote:

AIW
No, that's just some neighborhood prostitute we hired to help scrape the ceiling.




It is legal over there so that's cool. Hope she was worth the money.
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Mauser765
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Post Number: 938
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Posted From: 4.229.69.245
Posted on Sunday, September 03, 2006 - 5:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The prostitutes in your area are much better looking than the ones in my area...hahaha.

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