  Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 120 Registered: 07-2005 |
We went out for a drive Friday 12-8 night to see Christmas lights along Lakeshore in Grosse Pointe and across the lake in the Harsens Island, Fairhaven, Walpole Island area of the lake there was a huge orange glow that was even lighting up the clouds above orange. Does anybody know what was on fire? From the size of it, I would think that it was a marsh fire. I know in the past with marsh fires we have gotten ash fallout in Grosse Pointe, but the wind was blowing the other way this time. So What was burning??? | ||
Dfd Member Username: Dfd Post Number: 171 Registered: 09-2004 |
I'm not sure about that fire, but check this out: http://detroitfire.dvrdns.org: 8000/live | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 214 Registered: 02-2006 |
I saw that glow too. I thought it could have been Selfridge related but a fire sounds a lot more realistic judging from how it looked. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 428 Registered: 05-2006 |
I saw the red glow on I-94 around the 696 intersection around 8:30-9P.M. I thought it might be the Northern Lights. I wanted to drive out by the lake to check it out, but was late to my appointment. | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 2918 Registered: 10-2003 |
Maybe blowoff from an oil well/refinery on the Canadian side of the St Clair river. | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 121 Registered: 07-2005 |
I checked the Port Huron Times to see if there was anything listed, but they didn't show anything yet. Although conditions are good for the northern lights right now, this was on the ground since it was the brightest there and it was glowing in the clouds. Maybe the Walpole Indians had a big bon fire going, and a bit to much fire water. | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 2919 Registered: 10-2003 |
About a year ago I was flying to Detroit from Minneapolis, and while passing over Milwaukee, I could see a bright fire on the horizon near Sarnia. There had been an accident at a refinery near there and gas was being vented and burned as part of the emergency procedures. Looked like the sun coming up about 8 hours too early. | ||
Dodgemain Member Username: Dodgemain Post Number: 125 Registered: 04-2005 |
I know that the Indians on Walpole Island burn off the fields at least once a year. That could have been it. | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 122 Registered: 07-2005 |
Well, I knew my wife was going to be driving on Lakeshore again, so I called her to see if she could still see it. After 24 hours, it is still visible, but not as bright as last night. She said if you hadn't seen it the night before, you wouldn't pay attention to it, but it is still glowing. | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 123 Registered: 07-2005 |
I called somebody on Harsens Island to see if it was the Indians burning their fields, but they couldn't see anything strange, which lead me to think it is something in Sarnia in the Chemical Valley. | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 125 Registered: 07-2005 |
Ahhh, I did some digging on the web and found this webcam picture from a few minutes ago. I bet the glow is from the oil refineries. It sure was bright!  | ||
Ribalda Member Username: Ribalda Post Number: 3 Registered: 12-2006 |
It could have been The Lady of Fatima. Ribalda | ||
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz Post Number: 1167 Registered: 12-2005 |
Harsensis, can you post a link to that webcam? | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yes, the site is below, but the top pick isn't fire at all, it is yellow lights from all of the buildings. I guess the web cam doesn't do well at night. Which takes me back to square one on what the fire was. Thanks a lot Jimaz for bursting my bubble! lol In the full sized pic of the orange above, it really looks like an industrial plant burning of gasses. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Here is the link. http://www.mnsi.net/~jhlavac/ | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 2921 Registered: 10-2003 |
In this satellite photo from yesterday, I see a wisp of smoke east of that larger island in the St Clair River: http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.cgi/modis?region=e&page=1&template=sub&image=t1.06343.1626.LakeErie.143.250m.jpg  Not there on earlier photos: http://coastwatch.glerl.noaa.gov/modis/modis.cgi/modis?region=e&page=3&template=sub&image=a1.06332.1826.LakeErie.143.250m.jpg  Fire detection satellites detected something burning in the area: ftp://gp16.ssd.nesdis.noaa.gov/pub/FIRE/MODIS/GRAPHIC/modisfires2006343.png  | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7463 Registered: 12-2003 |
MIKEM! Wow...fire detection satellites? How do you FIND these things?! | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7464 Registered: 12-2003 |
Man, go to that site and see the whole thing...WTF, did they put California's out already? What is UP with the south...they are just burning up...and Haiti has some SERIOUS issues. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7465 Registered: 12-2003 |
OOPS, Dominican Republic. | ||
Pamequus Member Username: Pamequus Post Number: 93 Registered: 07-2005 |
Most of the southern fires are probably controlled burns. We do a lot of that this time of year. | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 127 Registered: 07-2005 |
I asked around on a different board, and they reported back that there was blow off at one of the chemical plants in Sarnia. All I can say was WOW it was bright! So now we have the answer. Thanks for all that helped. JJ | ||
Ct4438 Member Username: Ct4438 Post Number: 28 Registered: 08-2005 |
I was just up around St. John's marsh this past Saturday and it was obvious that much of the marsh had been recently scorched. So, the safe bet is controlled burning of the marsh, which would've been the area described (Fair Haven, Walpole, etc). Sarnia is much further north and wouldn't have been visible from Harsens. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 431 Registered: 05-2006 |
Anyone see the fires from the petro plant that caught fire early this morning in Canada? | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2005 |
If the fire was bright enough and high enough it could have been seen. I saw the fire from Grosse Pointe and not Harsens, but we can easily see the power plant stacks and smoke from Grosse Pointe and Harsens Island on clear days. Sarnia is not that much further. Ct, if you have ever gone up in a small airplane, once you get up to 3000 feet, you realize just how close everything is. I wasn't up driving around at 4 am to see the latest fire. | ||
Mikem Member Username: Mikem Post Number: 2928 Registered: 10-2003 |
Three bright things you can see from an airplane for hundreds of miles: Gas flares, blast furnaces, and ski hills. Forest/brush fires aren't very bright. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 219 Registered: 11-2003 |
You are all wrong: Official Space Weather Advisory: Geomagnetic Storm in Progress A geomagnetic storm began on December 14 at 1416 UTC (9:16 A.M. EST). A solar flare on 13 December at 0240 UTC (12 December, 9:40 P.M. EST) from NOAA Region 930 produced strong radio blackouts (R3) and an associated moderate (S2) solar radiation storm. A large Earth-directed coronal mass ejection was also observed with this event, producing today's geomagnetic storming. Strong to severe (G3 - G4) geomagnetic storming is expected to last through 15 December. Aside from potentially nasty things like knocking out power grids and communication systems, the storm should provide spectaular northern lights. http://www.spaceref.com/news/v iewsr.html?pid=22778 | ||
Ribalda Member Username: Ribalda Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2006 |
You're sure that it wasn't The Lady of Fatima? Ribalda | ||
Harsensis Member Username: Harsensis Post Number: 129 Registered: 07-2005 |
I did have conformation from somebody who lives near there that the bright fire was blow off from the chemical plants. They have a fire going to burn off the gasses released. |
