  Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 303 Registered: 03-2006 |
High end furniture store moves from Main street in ann arbor to new digs at Broadway and Grandriver...to bad they didnt get a ground floor space. The article's logic as to why doesn't really make sense to me http://modeldmedia.com/develop mentnews/mezzanine72.aspx | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 648 Registered: 10-2003 |
Excellent news! Joe is a forumer on Dyes, right? | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 1313 Registered: 04-2005 |
Hmmm, $76 stapler and $36 CD holder sure beats a dollar store. I wish them well. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 953 Registered: 11-2003 |
"Posch initially was searching for a ground-floor retail space but says, “for an independent retailer, the downtown ground floor business…is pretty bad." It makes sense.... not many options available... could be space not big enough, or logistically might not make sense for his product. Price might be the issue more than anything else. | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 649 Registered: 10-2003 |
I'm also thinking that possibly insurance is higher because security might be more of an issue (still) for ground level retail in downtown. | ||
Apbest Member Username: Apbest Post Number: 304 Registered: 03-2006 |
yeah that makes sense...I hope they will have some sort of signage or street presence though...wish them the best of luck | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7194 Registered: 12-2003 |
Wish 'im luck with Jean Nash. Hope that security deposit was placed in escrow instead of just being handed over. | ||
Matt Member Username: Matt Post Number: 1132 Registered: 10-2003 |
I wish Mezzanine the best of luck, but I'm sure they don't need it!  | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 1522 Registered: 11-2003 |
Sounds good - wasn't there supposed to be a furniture store going in an the first floor of the Kales Bldg?? | ||
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field Post Number: 650 Registered: 10-2003 |
Bobj, this is the same store that was supposed to move into the Kales. It is odd that the Kales retail space is still unoccupied. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7200 Registered: 12-2003 |
As is the Opera House garage. | ||
Bobj Member Username: Bobj Post Number: 1524 Registered: 11-2003 |
Thanks Mind field, it is a bit strange that they would move to a second floor location with all the first floor available all over the CBD. | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 677 Registered: 10-2003 |
Maybe the rents are just that much cheaper on the second floor, enabling the deal to make sense. The insurance angle seems feasible to. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7203 Registered: 12-2003 |
The name locking it to this location might end up troublesome. Ain't that many Mezzanine's to relocate to... | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1452 Registered: 11-2003 |
Shouldn't be a big problem... the Ann Arbor store was not on a mezzanine level, either. You're gettin' too literal, here. | ||
Illmatic774 Member Username: Illmatic774 Post Number: 86 Registered: 02-2006 |
and of course no one will hear about this on the news, just a reminder that "November was a terrible month for US automakers" | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7205 Registered: 12-2003 |
I didn't realize he used that name there...thanks. There's only four or five people left that know what the word means, anyways. | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 181 Registered: 10-2003 |
Congrats to Joe Posch! Great news for Detroit. | ||
Yvette248 Member Username: Yvette248 Post Number: 213 Registered: 10-2006 |
Its incumbent on real journalists to define what "bad" means. I agree, the article should have been written more clearly. If Mezzanine could get some good press, I'm sure there is a demand for furniture downtown with all of the apartments and lofts being bought. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 1164 Registered: 12-2004 |
I don't get the notion of locating a store to the second floor of an off the beaten path location. Yes, I still find Broadway off the beaten path, even though I walk it daily. | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 1237 Registered: 11-2003 |
They must have some idea what they are doing if they are moving from Ann Arbor to downtown. If they create a destination where people have to go, there will be no issue about being on the 2nd floor. There are plenty of shops in Chicago on the 2nd floor. People just need to know they are there. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 755 Registered: 06-2005 |
While many of you are hung up on the price of his products, the fact is that Mezzanine does not sell things which can be purchased at Target or Ikea. His products are those cool expensive things you see in New York or other cool cities around the world. Pangborn Design seems to do well? As for the choice for second floor over first floor? It has everything to do with the outragous rents being asked for in Detroit. For the life of me, I don't understand why the landlords in Detroit demand top dollar for their empty spaces. It seems they all keep waiting for a national retailer to come in and pay $21/Sqrft or more. National retailers are waiting for the Downtown market to gain "feet" before they lay that kind of money down. That means, small shops need to be there and thriving, first, but no small shop will thrive with that kind of rent. That's what Joe means by "you really need to WANT to be in Detroit to locate there" and that it's "bad". Regardless, I commend Mezzanine for trying out the Detroit market and I hope they do well enough to "WANT to be in Detroit" for many years to come!!! | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7161 Registered: 10-2003 |
This isn't a souvenir shop, 1953. Mezzanine is a high-end furniture retailer specializing in modern design. (http://www.mezzanine-online.co m/) Because of the uniqueness of what they sell, their customers will find them wherever they locate. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2006 |
Location isnt that big of a deal, as it appears to be *mostly* a web-based business, as he has been running the shop purely via the internet for the last year. His AA customers will come to Detroit for the specialty products, and any walk-in Detroit business will be a bonus. Like he said, he only moved to the city because he really wanted to, and cares about the revival, not purely a business decision | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 432 Registered: 04-2006 |
yippie! another store doomed to fail like Julian Scott! Why don't retailers sell things that people can afford? Pangborn is actually a place I shop several times a year. Great sales! I have to agree with Matt, the 2nd floor of retail buildings are much less expensive than first floor locations. With the name of the store being mezzanine, it makes sense to be on the second floor! I sure hope the building has proper ADA facilities. | ||
Spiritofdetroit Member Username: Spiritofdetroit Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2006 |
Its already an established business... I wouldnt say it is doomed... | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 759 Registered: 06-2005 |
jesus! Why do I even bother with this forum. Perhaps all of my friends are correct to have left or been banned from this forum. [quote] yippie! another store doomed to fail like Julian Scott! Why don't retailers sell things that people can afford? [/quote] This is precisely the type of attitude in Detroit that will prevent this from being a "real" city. Did it occur to you that there are people who will spend money on cool things, because they WANT to, not because it's affordable? Anyone can sell affordable things, but have to compete with Target or Kmart or Meijers. My Parent's business is suffering after 30 years because of that type of competition. Where is there less competition and a major lack of availability in the Detroit region? high end, nice things. It's not just for Birmingham anymore. | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 196 Registered: 10-2003 |
And add to that Detroitduo that this is a case of people who are saying it can't be done trying to get into the way of those doing it. Go Joe! | ||
Dds Member Username: Dds Post Number: 38 Registered: 10-2006 |
Agreed, Detroitduo. A majority of this forum gets its underwear in a bunch when a freaking Cheesecake factory won't open downtown. But when a legitimate independent business opens up to fill a niche, then we predict its demise. Is high-end stuff not agreeable to those who enjoy and praise the grittiness that is Detroit? Nobody seems to bitch when a $5 t-shirt sells for $22 just because it has the word "Detroit" or the numbers "313" on it. Of course not! That is the "cool" image that we like. Cheers to Joe! And to hell with those who can't at least be hopeful for someone who is actually DOING SOMETHING to further this city other than going on a pub crawl. | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1740 Registered: 06-2004 |
I do! I do! And technically, a second floor is not a mezzanine. But, hey, I quibble.
I think he means things he can't afford. | ||
Downtown_dave Member Username: Downtown_dave Post Number: 109 Registered: 07-2005 |
Maybe one reason that a ground floor space wasn't chosen was because this business is called "Mezzanine." The second floor space is most likely not only cheaper, but it reflects the branding the owner has established in the business name. The location - up one flight - will also help sort the "tire kickers" from the real buyers. As Detroitduo and others have pointed out, this place by design is not for the dollar store crowd. Given the success of loft and new housing development here and the lack of nearby competitors for this quality of merchandise, I think Joe Posch has made a smart move and is gonna do fine. People with long-term memories here might remember that Adler-Schnee, an ahead-of-its-time home furnishings retailer, was once located in this building in the space where Coach's Corner now is. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1962 Registered: 06-2004 |
This is destination shopping - this is not impulse buying. And how many times have any of you ever been walking down the street and saw the storefront of a furniture store, said "hmmm -- that looks nice" walked in and spent a few grand on end tables? My guess is never. If you need furniture you go furniture shopping. If you are looking for unique, high-end, expensive furniture, you seek out the unique, high-end, expensive furniture stores. There aren't that many in metro-detroit. I am sure if somebody had opened the "Mezzanine Ultra Lounge" on a second floor and sold top shelf cocktails at gouging prices people would've looked upon it as the next step in the salvation of the city. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7248 Registered: 12-2003 |
As far as easy to locate destination...that white building across from the Y and Opera House parking garage is now somewhere people want to find...Broadway all through is getting a face-lift. I agree, it is a great place, especially if he has an active presence on-line that will take the place of walk-in traffic. More e-business could think this way and capture some local and tourist business they never dreamed of...as well as give themselves a tangible face for those too squeamish to buy, say, some antique dresser over the phone without seeing it. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7249 Registered: 12-2003 |
Maybe Jean Nash isn't as crazy as she wants us to believe. Doesn't make her any nicer to deal with, though. | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 204 Registered: 10-2003 |
Take a look at the website btw. Wow! | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 436 Registered: 04-2006 |
First of all no one would be more thrilled than I to see this store succeed. I am just frustrated that there is not much downtown for those that actually live in the city can afford. If you look at how incredibly low Detroit's household income is, and how high the rate of children living in poverty, there is a real need out there for reasonably priced goods and services. I guess I am frustrated when I look at Woodward, still empty and wonder where are the replacements for Kressgee, Woolworths and other reasonably priced stores from my youth. I'm not seeing them. More people live in Detroit because its affordable than because its cool. I don't think everyone out there realizes this. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1257 Registered: 11-2003 |
There's a lot of folks who can't afford an $8 jack and coke too... so does that mean Centaur and proof should close or that they just shouldn't have opened in the first place? | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 7251 Registered: 12-2003 |
People pay the price of admission they choose. You're right, no way anyone can judge the market. Stuff on that website is off-the-charts cool...he could be up in the Russell Industrial Center and succeed...any step closer to a funky street-level door in the middle of town is a bonus to him. (I was trying to remember what was in that space with the escalators going to the basement, thanks, 'planner.) | ||
A2adguy Member Username: A2adguy Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2006 |
I loved this place in ann arbor, and wish it great success in Downtown, with all the development going on they should do very well. | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 205 Registered: 10-2003 |
If you want the Kresge and Woolworth stuff you have to go to the store that has come to replace them. I think the nearest Walmart is up off 96. And I don't think it would look too good sitting on Woodward. The other option is the CVS, which sits on Woodward. (Message edited by Magnasco on November 29, 2006) | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1964 Registered: 06-2004 |
Don't forget the dollar stores. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 438 Registered: 04-2006 |
Family Dollar is a good start at replacing the Woolworths. I can remember shopping there and the second floor they had Levi's on the cheap so its not quite to Woolworth's level but throw in an old navy, steve and barry's or something similar, and you'll have something that everyone can shop at. As far as Walmart is concerned, I'd rather have my eyes poked out with a searing red hot poker than to buy stuff there. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 761 Registered: 06-2005 |
I agree that affordable shopping needs to be present, somewhere Downtown, but at $21.00 and higher per sqr ft?!? That's why those discount retailers build and rent out in the suburbs, because their rents are quite low. I am equally frustrated that we still have so many empty store fronts downtown, but as long as the landlords keep hoping and waiting that they will get their high rent the longer those stores will remain vacant. Chicken or the Egg! No one's laying the eggs, so they'd better go out and start buying some chickens, while it's still hot enough downtown! If nothing continues to happen, it will cool right back down and we will be back where we started. 1970. Ok, back on track. I really think Joe's on to something. All the best and I look forward to the Grand Opening! | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 771 Registered: 10-2003 |
Most of the retail/service businesses in downtown Detroit ARE affordable... Borders and CVS are very affordable to the average person. John King has an amazing downtown bookstore with a massive selection and dirt cheap prices. The theatre in the RenCen shows first-run movies cheaper than most places in the burbs. A haircut at a Downtown Detroit barber shop is about the same price as a suburban chain, but the owner-operated downtown shops offer the personalized service and years of experience not found in suburban chain-shops. cont... | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 772 Registered: 10-2003 |
Detroitplanner, Your broad generalizations about the income and lifestyle choices of "Detroit residents" has resulted in some invalid assumptions and poor conclusions. Like most large cities, Detroit is a big place with diverse people and neighborhoods. You can't define the entire city with a broad generalization. Mexicantown, Brightmoor, Palmer Woods, and Downtown are vastly different neighborhoods with different problems and different needs. --------------- The Mexican markets in SW Detroit, with spanish signs and spanish-speaking workers, are not in business to cater to the 82% black majority of Detroit. The Book Cadillac condos and Seldom Blues are not in business to cater to the homeless people downtown. The Save-A-Lot store on Grand River is not in business to serve the residents of Indian Village or Boston-Edison. ------------- Contrary to popular opinion, not every neighborhood in Detroit is crime-ridden and filled with poor people. In fact, there are actually some Detroit residents living above the poverty line, and we would like to have some more nice retail in the city. Your suggestion that Detroit residents aren't good enough to have nice stores downtown is ignorant and offensive. | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 206 Registered: 10-2003 |
Go getem Erikd. It is actually something that I get asked my suburban peers is "where do you shop?" And sometimes they mean groceries, but often they are wondering where you go to get the stuff that is for sale at Somerset Mall. Of course I tell them that there the City has a lot of places, many of which are independently owned, that have what a person needs. Just like Joe's new place. Cheers. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 439 Registered: 04-2006 |
Please don't even argue with me using your opinions as facts. SEMCOG has broken 2000 census information down by Planning Cluster. The area around downtown is Cluster #4. In 2000, just under 70 percent of the households in this area made under $35,000; with almost half of those making under $10,000. One third of the people in cluster four lived in poverty, often going to bed hungry. 40 percent of the people in the area had no car, meaning that having more affordable stores within walking distance could save them bus-fare, and time. These folks need less obstacles between them and making money than just about anyone else in our society. http://www.semcog.org/cgi-bin/ comprof/profiles.cfm Granted, numbers today would show more high income folks. However, there are a large number of the underclass that cannot be ignored. BTW if you're choosing between buying books or buying something to keep you warm, and you are living in poverty, would you not go to somewhere like family dollar and get a $5 hat or gloves; before buying a book? There is not much that is affordable downtown to seve an inpoverished population, other than Eastern Market. (Message edited by Detroitplanner on November 30, 2006) | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7175 Registered: 10-2003 |
Granted, numbers today would show more high income folks. However, there are a large number of the underclass that cannot be ignored. If only The Whitney paid attention to this logic. Instead of their failed scheme to provide high-end dining, they should have focused on the underclass and sold hot dogs, too. That way, everyone wins! | ||
Magnasco Member Username: Magnasco Post Number: 207 Registered: 10-2003 |
don't forget pizza by the slice.... | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 440 Registered: 04-2006 |
Again people, I wish him the best of luck and would be thrilled to see him succeed. I am just astonished that no one can see that there is a market need that is not being filled with affordable stores. BTW, I've ate at the Whitney, the surroundings are great, but the food was very forgetable, I would have rather been served the hot dogs or cup-o-pizza than the tough piece filet mignon I had. Too often I feel that no one in this forum really cares for people who are needy, and that you want to turn Detroit into your personal fantasyland. Sometimes I find your negative energy and unwillingness to acknowledge that there are poor that exist around you as a very sad commentary on our society. Its all about the show and nothing about helping those that need it. That is just a pathetic way to live. | ||
Track75 Member Username: Track75 Post Number: 2450 Registered: 10-2003 |
Detroitplanner said: And to paraphrase the rest of the post, Cluster 4 is full of poor people. Downtown doesn't have much that caters to poor people. Arrrg, planner-types can be so annoying when they ignore business fundamentals. Look at how big cluster 4 is. Look at the CBD (yellow).  Why would the CBD, with the highest land values in the city, be the right place for businesses that cater to people with very little money? Why would it seem reasonable to a planner that people should travel several miles to the CBD to shop at a dollar store when there's probably one along their neighborhood artery? Why would a planner think that the CBD is enhanced by businesses that cater to the poor? Why would a business aimed at the poor locate in the "high rent district" and pay much higher rent than if they located in the neighborhood closer to their clientele? Why did I even bother posting to this thread? Best of luck to Mezzanine. The merchandise on the website is great. It's a good fit for CBD Detroit, in a good location. People who want what they have will seek it out. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1966 Registered: 06-2004 |
Let me give it a shot: 1)Because it belongs to the people, and we need to keep all of those affluent new Detroiters out of here 2)Because supporting neighborhood businesses is not deemed as important to the brilliant visionaries that plan our cities future 3)Because he is a Detroit Planner 4)Because he would assume there would be some taxpayer subsidy to support the higher rents 5)Because you just can't help yourself | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7178 Registered: 10-2003 |
Too often I feel that no one in this forum really cares for people who are needy, and that you want to turn Detroit into your personal fantasyland. Get a grip. We all live here. We walk past the party stores, dollar shops, abandoned buildings, crack houses, trash-filled lots, homeless hangouts ad infinitum and you worry that we don't realize that Detroit has an underclass? I'm sorry your tender sensibilities are offended by someone opening a high-end retail store downtown without first having solved the homeless problem. I hope that somehow you can overcome this travesty and maybe even one day walk by Mezzanine without crying. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1967 Registered: 06-2004 |
But how can I walk by it if it is not ground floor retail? I will have to walk below it. That is going to suck. | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 2980 Registered: 10-2003 |
I am very tall. | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 2981 Registered: 10-2003 |
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Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1088 Registered: 02-2004 |
you must be a giant. are you even going to fit in a European sized sofa? | ||
Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1089 Registered: 02-2004 |
LOL, great pic. Who's your tailor? | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 2339 Registered: 10-2003 |
That was you! I was wondering who the asshole was that was staring in my 10th floor window on Thanksgiving day. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7179 Registered: 10-2003 |
Have you seen our statistics??? There couldn't be any tailors in Cluster 4. | ||
Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1090 Registered: 02-2004 |
Now I know how Ndavies got the "Vinton" letters on top of the building. | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 2982 Registered: 10-2003 |
Can't you tell from the photo, I'm euro (russian) that stuff was made to fit me. | ||
Manrooter Member Username: Manrooter Post Number: 444 Registered: 11-2003 |
Yoo hoo! Rustic! | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 2983 Registered: 10-2003 |
Sorry manrooter, Clara is the girl of my dreams ... ... although ... ballet references, parades, modern and contemporary designer retail ... hmm I can see why you might have thought it ... | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1968 Registered: 06-2004 |
Clara Peller?  | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7181 Registered: 10-2003 |
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Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 132 Registered: 01-2006 |
This post has degraded significanly...well kind of. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 7182 Registered: 10-2003 |
You'd feel better if DP went back to being critical of high-end retail in Cluster 4? | ||
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 133 Registered: 01-2006 |
Fair enough..... | ||
Erikd Member Username: Erikd Post Number: 774 Registered: 10-2003 |
Itsjeff, Track75, and Dabirch have all responded with great counter-points to Detroitplanner, but I will add a few more...
Downtown Detroit (and the neighborhoods bordering downtown) are filled with dollar stores, soup kitchens, homeless shelters, public housing, Goodwill clothing stores, and a plethora of other services catering to homeless and impoverished people. Greater downtown Detroit has more services for impoverished people than any other place in the entire state, but you think that downtown Detroit still hasn't done enough.
You have a lot of nerve to make that accusation. Don't even try to talk to me about ignoring poverty in the city, or suggest that new downtown development is a quest for some kind of "personal fantasyland." ------------- I have lived in downtown Detroit for a decade, and daily life has just started to resemble something close to normal over the last year. After 9 years of terrible city services, constant construction, and a dearth neighborhood retail and services, the re-opening of basic stores and services has been cause for celebration. -------------- Detroitplanner, I respect your concern for the plight of homeless and poor people (I have been unemployed and dirt poor myself), but I don't understand why you think that it is the responsibility of downtown Detroit to provide for all the poor and homeless, and why you think that downtown residents should be denied basic retail and services until we provide for all these people. Don't give me some books-or-clothing pity bullshit, because you don't hold anybody else to that standard. The suburbs can build endless rows of strip-mall retail stores, and you don't say a thing, but when the residents of downtown finally get a Borders and a CVS, (after years of living without a basic drugstore) we are accused of ignoring the plight of poor people and attempting to build a "fantasyland playground". -------------- The residents and businesses of downtown Detroit have just come out of the worst years, and we are way overdue for the basic retail and services that are coming downtown. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 451 Registered: 04-2006 |
I've lived in Detroit my whole life. 40 years of it Johnny come lately. My Dentist as a child was located in the Whitney building. I went to WC3D and Wayne State, not because I thought being in the City was cool, but I wanted to strive to get ahead and had no money to afford anywhere else. This should give you an idea about my perspective. I am not talking about soup kitchens or about homeless shelters, I am talking about low income people. These are the folks who live paycheck to paycheck. I am talking about basic retail services that are needed. I really don't think we have too much difference between us. I am not talking about junk shops, wig stores, cell phone stores. I am talking about places to buy food or clothes that are of a reasonable price. Do I support the poor? Absolutely. Do I want shopping downtown that is higher end? Of course I do. The major problem I have with Mezzanine is that they were located in Ann Arbor and closed in the summer of 2005. To go almost two years without a store tells me that this is either mostly a internet/catalog business, or that it is just terribly run. Incidently, I just left Border's dropped a serious chunk of my Christmas budget there. I am now going to head up to the Art Store at Woodward and Warren to get my nieces some art kits, then I am off to the Detroit Popcorn Co to buy some munchies for a party I am going to tonight. I do not appreciate being slammed every time I mention that we need to realize that most of Detroit is poor. This is a reality. | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1911 Registered: 07-2004 |
Good luck to Mezzanine. I miss them here in A2 as I am a huge fan of the mid-century modern that they featured. Detroit planner I like popcorn and books but art kits will go unused. Please limit yourself to 50$ when shopping for me this Holiday season. | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 454 Registered: 04-2006 |
lol, by the time I got to Detroit Popcorn they were shooing people out to close-up. I don't understand businesses that are not open evenings then complain that they don't make any money. They are operating on a very out-dated model where moms stayed home all day and dad worked till he died. Simply opening from 11 to 8 every day you would be able to get a lot more of the day worker and night worker population to stop at your store. Well CL you'll have to stop by the new Mezz one day. | ||
Zephyrprocess Member Username: Zephyrprocess Post Number: 155 Registered: 08-2006 |
DetroitPlanner--at least you can buy from Detroit Popcorn's website (though I share your puzzlement). | ||
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner Post Number: 466 Registered: 04-2006 |
Buying popcorn from a website seems insane to me! Hell its bad enough that I'm not making it myself! |
