Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2028 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
As much as I admired and respected Mahaffey, I don't think renaming Grand Circus Park is really the way to go here. This is a pretty major land mark that likely goes back to the Woodward plan for rebuilding after the Great Fire (please correct me if I'm wrong). How about renaming Stopel Park on Evergreen & Outer Dr. after her. There are two Stopel Park's in the city and the one at Evergreen & OD is the meeting place of Rosedale Park & Brightmoor - two of Detroit's most financially disparate neighborhoods. I think that would be a more appropriate legacy of Mahaffey. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20061009/METRO /610090329 |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 683 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 12:59 pm: | |
I think a City Council president and the word "circus" could go together a bit too well. |
Stecks77 Member Username: Stecks77
Post Number: 109 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:05 pm: | |
With all due respect its a bad idea. |
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister
Post Number: 822 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:12 pm: | |
Bvos said: "meeting place of Rosedale Park & Brightmoor - two of Detroit's most financially disparate neighborhoods. I think that would be a more appropriate legacy of Mahaffey." I didn't know Rosedale Park was financially desperate. later - naturalsister |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2030 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:15 pm: | |
I didn't, I said disparate http://m-w.com/dictionary/disp arate |
Valkyrias Member Username: Valkyrias
Post Number: 352 Registered: 02-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:18 pm: | |
Bvos said: "meeting place of Rosedale Park & Brightmoor - two of Detroit's most financially disparate neighborhoods. I think that would be a more appropriate legacy of Mahaffey." I didn't know Rosedale Park was financially desperate. wait, disparate or desperate? disparate would make sense in the fact that brightmoor and rosedale park are very different in regards to the economic makeup. but i would agree that most of rosedale park is not finacially desperate. i think bvos was correct in his statement... |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2909 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:37 pm: | |
Getting back on thread... here we go resurrecting the historic name Campus Martius as the original centerpiece of the Woodward Plan was called, and now they want to destroy the name of the northern perimeter of Woodward's plan. Grand Circus Park has such a majestic name to it, with a history spanning the centuries. And now they want to call it Mahaffey Park. I don't care for it one bit. Rename 7 Mile Rd. or something (since 6 Mile is McNichols). But leave the historic park name alone. And if they are insistant on renaming a park, there are plenty of parks that could be renamed. Hell why not rename Harmonie Park. The German ethnic Harmonie Club (its' namesake) has been defunct for over 30 years, even though the clubhouse is still there. |
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria
Post Number: 1451 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:40 pm: | |
quote:Grand Circus Park has such a majestic name to it, with a history spanning the centuries. And now they want to call it Mahaffey Park. I don't care for it one bit.
I'm with you. |
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man
Post Number: 129 Registered: 05-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:42 pm: | |
Maybe they should only re-name half of it. (Like the tunnel proposal). |
Tkelly1986 Member Username: Tkelly1986
Post Number: 145 Registered: 01-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:45 pm: | |
I agree this is a bad idea....similar to the call to name everything after Rosa Parks when she died......a bit overkill. 1 street, that is fine. A small park or statue, that is also fine; but the center of the city? That is a little much. Detroit could do what Chicago does and have streets named in "honor" of someone, but not actually rename the street: for example Fort Street would also be "Honorary Maryann Mahaffey Way" |
Dan Member Username: Dan
Post Number: 1291 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 1:54 pm: | |
Put a statue of her up, don't change the name. |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 616 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 2:29 pm: | |
A monument to Maryann is entirely appropriate but to rename GCP is showing a lack of imagination. We can do better. |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 302 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 2:41 pm: | |
Take down the hanging fish head "sculpture" at the terminus of Madison on the east side of the park and put up a plaque there in her honor. Or, take down the fish head and don't replace it w/ anything. Better yet. |
Stecks77 Member Username: Stecks77
Post Number: 112 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 2:53 pm: | |
You mean the glorious Millenium Bell? I saw it this past weekend and the weighted metal knocker was lying on the ground. Maybe the metal thieves are at it again? That is your only hope 3rdworldcity. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2911 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 2:56 pm: | |
LOL... 3WC, I hadn't heard the "fish head" term. I like to call it the "Millenium Cow Bell". |
3rdworldcity Member Username: 3rdworldcity
Post Number: 304 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 3:15 pm: | |
Gistok: I like yours better. |
Busterwmu Member Username: Busterwmu
Post Number: 282 Registered: 09-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 3:27 pm: | |
Perhaps one of the new areas of the East Riverfront park? Then there would be no renaming necessary. I'm in this boat though, Grand Circus will always be Grand Circus and trying to rename it just won't do. |
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell
Post Number: 3076 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
The only solution, and to make it fair to councilpersons past and present, is to rename it Council Circus Park. It would also add a whole new dimension to the term 'Clowncil'. While they are at it why not make it also change the name of the zoo to City Council Zoo. The possibilities and ironies are endless. |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 1029 Registered: 12-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 3:56 pm: | |
As the owner of grandcircuspark.com, I am unequivocally opposed to this move. |
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie
Post Number: 677 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 09, 2006 - 4:42 pm: | |
This is certainly a bad idea. A statue or honorary-only street would be fine, but renaming one of the oldest continuously named places in Detroit isn't good. And if a street is completely renamed instead, they should pick something generic like a street named after a tree, instead of one that's named after a person. The honoring of one person shouldn't be cancelled for the sake of another, simply because the original's history has been more or less forgotten. |
Mcwalbucksnfitch Member Username: Mcwalbucksnfitch
Post Number: 9 Registered: 10-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 12:15 am: | |
Ruining the historical value of the park. |
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister
Post Number: 823 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:22 am: | |
GEEZ, I know Itsjeff is the resident comedian, but may I get one in every once in a while? later - naturalsister |
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit
Post Number: 772 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 5:05 am: | |
Nice save. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5058 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 8:23 am: | |
Mahaffey Park, NO WAY!!! I'm still going to call it Grand Circus Park forever. |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 2585 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 9:05 am: | |
MM lived in Rosedale. I like the idea of naming Stoepel Park after her, but would Mr. Stoepel's feelings be hurt if he knew? Who was this Stoepel Guy anyway, and why are not one but two parks named after him? What about the park in the middle of Rosedale Park? When I hung out there in my wild younger days, we used to call it "Rosedale Park Park". "Mahaffey Park" has more of a ring to it. |
Quickdrawmcgraw Member Username: Quickdrawmcgraw
Post Number: 67 Registered: 10-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:41 pm: | |
We only have one Grand Circus Park. How about renaming the streets surrounding the park, Marian Mahaffey Circle? That would be cool especially if you can get some density around the area. |
Bobj Member Username: Bobj
Post Number: 1186 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:46 pm: | |
Bad idea |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2918 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:50 pm: | |
QDM.... that name was "unofficially" taken up in the 1920's. It was known as "Kunsky's Circle", named after John Kunsky, the man who build many of the movie palaces around Grand Circus Park (Madison, Adams, Capitol, State, Michigan). |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 973 Registered: 01-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:53 pm: | |
Well I LOVED Maryann...but I don't like this whole renaming thing. Grand Circus Park it is for me... If we create something new, lets name THAT for her. How about that small, new park off Campus Martius? |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 636 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:54 pm: | |
Grand Circus Park Forever |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 637 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:54 pm: | |
Grand Circus Park Forever |
Jams Member Username: Jams
Post Number: 3874 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 1:56 pm: | |
Yeah, what possible connection could the name Cadillac have to do with Detroit? |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 624 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 2:22 pm: | |
I'm still having a very hard time wrapping my brain around the fact that she's gone. Something fresh and new should be named for her. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 2:38 pm: | |
I agree, something new should be named for her. What about one of the plazas on the riverfront. Better yet, how about the proposed amphitheater at Hart Plaza. "Mahaffey Music Hall" or something nice like that. |
Rrl Member Username: Rrl
Post Number: 661 Registered: 12-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 5:31 pm: | |
Sell the Park's naming rights to the highest bidder to help ease the City's financial woes. At least get something out of a name change. "Rock Financial" Park "Faygo Red-Pop" Park "Colt 45" Park [tounge only partially in-cheek] |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 638 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 6:18 pm: | |
Back in my day, every park was a Colt 45 park... |
Rjk Member Username: Rjk
Post Number: 532 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 7:56 pm: | |
If it's about making money how about "Park and lock" Park? |