Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 554 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:44 pm: | |
Execellent news, probably one best Kwame has ever done. Detroit extends gas station ban to curb number of vacant sites Illegal dumping and environmental concerns cited; critics say move thwarts new business. Christine MacDonald / The Detroit News DETROIT -- Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick announced Thursday he has extended his ban on gas stations opening in new locations in the city for another two years, in hopes of reducing the number of abandoned gas stations. The measure doesn't prevent new gas stations from opening on closed sites, officials said. Kilpatrick stopped accepting applications for new gas stations in September 2004 with an executive order; he has extended the ban until September 2008. City officials said they were concerned about the environmental impact of neglected underground storage tanks and said that abandoned sites were attractive to illegal dumpers. http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.d ll/article?AID=/20060929/METRO /609290317/1003 |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 670 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
I have noticed that several gas station sites are now being revamped into new stations (Warren and Trumbull or Mack and Gratiot, for instance). I have to admit, it's a good idea. Otherwise, they'll brownfield the whole city. Unfortunately, lots of old gas station sites were so tiny they'll never be re-used, such as Canfield and Cass or Caniff and Buffalo, for example. |
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian
Post Number: 168 Registered: 08-2006
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 2:05 pm: | |
Smart move! Encourage them to develop a closed existing gas station rather than creating a new one. I just read in my local rag that Hazel Park put a ban on any more new dollar stores, there's all ready five in HP, which is not all that big to begin with. |
Jjaba Member Username: Jjaba
Post Number: 4379 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 10:02 pm: | |
Dollar stores go where they can make money. Hazeltucky loves this retail. Without them, how is jjaba going to get his discount shampoo! Tis too far to drive to Ypsitucky or Taylortucky. jjaba, LOL. |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4515 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Friday, September 29, 2006 - 10:05 pm: | |
I think this is one of the most meaningful things that has happened to the neighborhood commercial strips in years. It's things like these that are really going to have meaningful impacts on neighborhoods. Perhaps, they could do this with other types of business in the city. |
Rhymeswithrawk Member Username: Rhymeswithrawk
Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2005
| Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 12:17 am: | |
FOUR MORE YEARS! FOUR MORE YEARS! |
Mayor_sekou Member Username: Mayor_sekou
Post Number: 42 Registered: 09-2006
| Posted on Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 2:32 am: | |
That and the liquor store ban are some of the better moves by the Kilpatrick administration that required little effort or controversy so kudos to the current mayor. |
Bindetroit Member Username: Bindetroit
Post Number: 1258 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 7:50 am: | |
While the moratorium may result in some vacant sites being redeveloped, the Kwamester continues to put in effect policies that hurt ther Arab-American business community. And of course he does so without first consulting with their trade groups or business leaders. The signage crackdown, the liquor store sweeps, and now this. Not very politic of him to fertilize the seeds of dissention he's already sowed. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 5044 Registered: 02-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 8:22 am: | |
Looks like KING KWAME doen't want ant more Arabs running the gas station show in his Ghetto Kingdom. |
Swingline Member Username: Swingline
Post Number: 595 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:24 am: | |
Agreed. The ban is a good one. |
Ericdfan Member Username: Ericdfan
Post Number: 149 Registered: 08-2005
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:38 am: | |
cant forget redneck redford Jjaba! |
Michael Member Username: Michael
Post Number: 791 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 11:55 am: | |
quote:I have noticed that several gas station sites are now being revamped into new stations (Warren and Trumbull or Mack and Gratiot, for instance).
The Warren and Trumbull gas station was never vacant, the owner closed it to totally remodel the place. |
Detroitnerd Member Username: Detroitnerd
Post Number: 671 Registered: 07-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 12:31 pm: | |
Michael: True, the Trumbull/Warren station is probably not the best example. Bindetroit: You make money whether you rehab a gas station or build new. The rehab could conceivably involve more money, as you have to prep with demo work. |
Dougw Member Username: Dougw
Post Number: 1358 Registered: 11-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
quote:While the moratorium may result in some vacant sites being redeveloped, the Kwamester continues to put in effect policies that hurt ther Arab-American business community.
Maybe true, and that's an interesting aspect to this.
quote:Not very politic of him to fertilize the seeds of dissention he's already sowed.
I'm not sure about this, though... I'd guess that alienating the Arab-American business community would have very little impact on him politically. In any case, this particular policy seems like a good one. |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 557 Registered: 11-2004
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 8:05 pm: | |
quote:While the moratorium may result in some vacant sites being redeveloped, the Kwamester continues to put in effect policies that hurt ther Arab-American business community
The fact is making them redevelop the sites is far more beneficial to city than what it may in new stations because Kwame pissed some in the Arab business community. As Detroitnerd noted they'd brownfield the entire city if we let them.
quote:The signage crackdown, the liquor store sweeps, and now this. Not very politic of him to fertilize the seeds of dissention he's already sowed.
Yeah, God forbid we have standards in the city. As far as I'm concerned, if they don't like the polices, they can take business elsewhere. Last time I checked we don't shortage liquor stores in the city. |
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed
Post Number: 194 Registered: 04-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 8:29 pm: | |
Did he put a moratorium on fast food places too? |
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan
Post Number: 4528 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 9:09 pm: | |
It is quite a reach to try and throw ethnicity into this. It's a conspiracy theory, at best. |
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed
Post Number: 493 Registered: 02-2006
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:07 pm: | |
Bindetroit, who ever said Arab Americans could only own liquor stores or gas stations? |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 2020 Registered: 10-2003
| Posted on Monday, October 02, 2006 - 10:11 pm: | |
I think the gas station at Gratiot and Mack is a great example of how the ban is working well. The place sat vacant for years and years. The problem with these sites is that they're contaminated or have the risk of contamination that is too expensive to clean for residential and/or recreation use. This is an effective way to correct a market failure in the gas station market as well as the general commercial economy in Detroit. |