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Royce
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Parkard Building was abandoned by the Parkard Motor Company over 50 years ago. Since that time it has had other occupants but has been vacant for several years. Will the building or more specifically the buildings ever be torn down? Is there any pressure on the city to tear it down? Will it be torn down during your lifetime? Who will remain standing longer, the Packard Building or the Michigan Central Depot?

I'm 43 and I think it will be another ten years before anybody simply talks about tearing it down and another ten years before there's a strong possibility that it might get torn down. What are your thoughts?
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Ray1936
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From the looks of it, I think it will crumble down of its own accord within ten years. That whole area kind of reminds me of Berlin in 1945.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That reinforced concrete ain't going anywhere by itself anytime soon. Not within ten years, anyway.
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Neilr
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As an aside to this tread, there is a perfectly restored red and white Packard convertable currently on display in the lobby of the Compuware Building. It was assembled at the plant on East Grand Blvd.
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Bobj
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 1:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Interesting question, if the land ever became valuable enough for someone to spend the money, or if some governmental group spent the money to tear it down for development, or if someone found a use for the structure, maybe it would stay.

I would say that nothing will happen for quite a while.
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Dodgemain
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 1:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This may sound optimistic, but I'm hoping Packard makes a comeback and builds cars there.
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Burnsie
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 3:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Dodgemain-- that has about as much chance happening as GM employing 80,000 people in Flint again.
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Royce
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw the Parkard car at Compurare today. It is a beautiful car. I'm glad someone took the care to restore it. Great job.
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Rhymeswithrawk
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 6:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No.
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56packman
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Posted on Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 11:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

time will tell. The structure(s) could have gone on for a long time as they had been since '56 When Packard went under (they moved production out of the east grand blvd. plant at the end of the '54 model year to a Briggs plant they leased from Chrysler for the '55-'56 model years. They intended on building a modern, one story plant in Utica "when the money came in")
The Packard plant functioned well as a business incubator/storage facility for as long as it was a plant for Packard. A very evil plan was tried and failed to grab that land from the owner. There was complicit help from the mayor's (Archer) office, and someone very high up in Lansing at the state capitol. All of the tenants were evicted, save for one, and the city has had $6.75/hr rent-a-cops on the property 24/7, basically to keep the owner from his rights. During the city's watch, more wanton vandalism has taken place. It's been the Lee Plaza gone industrial. At best, those of us who treasure the legacy of Packard would be pleased to see the EGB office building saved and renovated, and perhaps a modern plant built on the site of the old, which will come down one day. That will probably remain a dream, as manufacturing, especially large scale manufacturing is dead in Michigan, and going out of fashion in the US faster than you can say "made in China". At best now, I hope we can get the stone work above the doors and the radiator shell stone work on the bridge for the Utica proving grounds historical site when the steel ball finally rolls.
Someone in Phoenix is trying to make a new Packard car--it is priced in the Rolls/Bentley bracket, and so far, sales are not such that any established ultra premium (= more money than brains) manufacturer need be worried.
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Thecarl
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:08 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

will the studebaker building come down in your lifetime?
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56packman
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 12:30 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

which one?
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 1:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few years back, the city was trying to tear it down. The owner, I can't rember his name,(Dominic something) was holed up in it. He was trying to keep he city from tearing it down. He said he hoped to restore it to its former glory.

Along the way, most of the business'es operating out of it closed.

Let's all use our resources to keep this historic stucture intact, save Packard from 'the wreaking ball'...


Detroitej72, trying to save the "D", one building at a time...
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56packman
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 7:19 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Detroitej72--the demolition, and attempted total demolition is what I am refering to in my post. The city evicted all of Dominic Christini's tenants for him. Yes, they left one at a time, but not by their own choice.
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Ddaydave
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Packard Motor Car Foundation will have a open house at the historic
Packard Proving Grounds on Van Dyke at 23 mile rd on oct 15 from 1 to 5.
Free tours of the Gate Lodge and grounds.

(Message edited by ddaydave on September 24, 2006)
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Jimaz
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 2:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ddaydave, thanks. It's actually half a mile south of there. It's halfway between 22 and 23 Mile roads, just west of Van Dyke.

Where did you hear of this event?

(Message edited by Jimaz on September 24, 2006)
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Ordinary
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Posted on Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 3:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I doubt that building will come down for a long time because there's no real need for that property to become anything else and because it would be just too expensive to tear it down.
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Flybydon
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Posted on Tuesday, September 26, 2006 - 7:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Royce
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Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great pic, Flybydon. I would love to see the office building on the north side of Grand Boulevard renovated. The rest can come down.

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