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Esteban
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 69.220.225.59
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apartment goes up in flames on Buena Vista
Fire department unable to find working hydrant...
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Lilpup
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Post Number: 1297
Registered: 06-2004
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 2:22 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the state obviously doesn't have a ton of money to pour into blighted areas - perhaps they should step in and condemn all sparsely populated urban areas to force consolidation?

really, what would you have the state do?
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Mikeg
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Post Number: 237
Registered: 12-2005
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 8:09 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, for starters, Jenny could replace the existing financial manager she appointed to return HP to fiscal health and put someone else in that position who can do a better job.
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Bussey
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Post Number: 209
Registered: 12-2003
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 8:09 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

while this is really sad, it is not a problem that should be addresed entirely at the state. In most cities it is the citizens who force changes and also draw alarm to glaring inefficenices; they are also the ones who fund the city so as to not have these kind of problems.

The major concerns of cities like Highland Park can only be helped by government if laws were enacted stopping all urban expansion, thereby making its propery valuable and needed once again. If people have the choice of moving elsewhere then the cavernous "skid row" will persist.


Even Lowell moved out.
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Danny
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Post Number: 4902
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 141.217.174.229
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 8:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Highland Park needs to a corporate takeover.
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Citylover
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Post Number: 1737
Registered: 07-2004
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fiscal mgr Jenny replaced was doing agood job.She put Blackwell in a person with a less than stellar past_ good job Jenny_ nothing like letting dumb ass politics
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Esteban
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Post Number: 63
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 9:25 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The City of Highland Park has defaulted and its financial responsibilities have been taken over by the State. Whether or not the city of HP was initially responsible for the condition of the city fire hydrants is irrelevant.
The State of Michigan is now responsible for the condition of the deplorable state of HP fire hydrants. The tax paying citizens of this city have a right to the basic safety that most everyone else in Michigan expects.
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Gambling_man
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Post Number: 840
Registered: 11-2003
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buena Vista=Good View
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Esteban
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gambling man, in a wry sort of way, that's actually funny!
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Danny
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Post Number: 4910
Registered: 02-2004
Posted From: 141.217.84.105
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Buena Vista turned into Loca Vista!!!
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Citylover
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Post Number: 1738
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thats the point estaban.The mgr engler had ppointed was providing good public safety services
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Lowell
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Post Number: 2900
Registered: 10-2003
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 7:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great pictures and commentary Esteban! Thanks.

I agree with you totally. It is the state's and Wayne County's responsibility. The citizens of Highland Park pay taxes to both and deserve better.

There are a lot of citizens who if they were in any other city wouldn't have to deal with this. It is not their fault that Ford, Chrysler, and many other business left undermining the tax base while leaving a burden of poor and disabled people in the care of the city.

IMO, politicians of all parties have dropped the ball on our old urban centers.
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Ray1936
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Post Number: 767
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 68.96.231.230
Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When I think of the 133 billion spent on the war in Iraq, and the comparative pennies it would take to fix the water lines in the metro area, I could just cry.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 1202
Registered: 10-2005
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Posted on Monday, August 28, 2006 - 11:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hear ya there, Ray. It's sick
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Danny
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Post Number: 4916
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well Mr. Boileau,

If the powers that be are the abusers of democracy, they must be overthrown.

Our politicians don't care about you, me us or them. Only what's good for society.
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Southwestmap
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Post Number: 552
Registered: 01-2005
Posted From: 70.229.231.102
Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am listening to all the complaining by the displaced citizens of New Orleans. They are complaining because the Federal Government isn't helping enough with rebuilding their houses and neighborhoods. While I listen to them on the media I look out my east window at a 100-year old house that is falling down - not due to a hurricane but definitely weakened and ravaged by 100 years of winters, damp springs and autumns, etc. The owners are waiting for a federal grant to fix the falling-off porch.

Tell me why the Feds shouldn't be forced to help everyone whose homes are affected by the weather? Why is just New Orleans?

Tell me why we would pay so that those people can move back into their old, precarious neighborhoods?

I'm with Lowell - here and in New Orleans, spend money on infrastructure - but why is it our (tax) responsibility to re-build houses?
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Janesback
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Post Number: 49
Registered: 08-2006
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Posted on Tuesday, August 29, 2006 - 3:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually, the ones complaining the most in N.O are the ones who did not have flood insurance. Now the Insurance companies are screwing their policy holders by claiming it wasn't " wind " damage that ruined your home, it was flood water. This is happening alot in Mississippi, where it wasnt so much the water , as the 140 m.p.h winds. In the lower 9th, which the media is fixated on, the majority of the homes are wooden houses, small shot gun style in excess of 80 years and older. They were all in dilapidated condition before Katrina hit. Lots , not all , are rented as well, with absentee land lords. The Fed Govt said initially, that each person would get 150, 000 for their houses which appraised pre-Katrina for about 30, 000 if that much. The lower 9th has the largest amount of crime, its just a huge slum, but many families have lived there for decades. Now the same people want to return, but these houses are all falling in, and collapsing. They are unsafe. The lower 9th is also the area that buffers N.O from Miss River and the Gulf. Lots of barrier islands have had homes built on them, as well as having the Miss River diverted for traffic. Fooling around with nature can bring big pay back problems .

You are like the rest of America Southwestmap. Why rebuild in an area that sits below sea-level. One more big hurricane and what is left of N.O will now only been seen in History books. Jane.
Also, AMsouthwest, this young 28 y.o single mother represents the majority demogrpahics for the lower 9th, and much of Orleans parish. Kind of sad.
From NEWSWEEK magazine

But in June, NEWSWEEK tracked her down in New Orleans. Her name is Taphina Jefferson, 28, single mother of seven children, including the two in the picture: Mariah, 2, and Terrence, 1. Jefferson had returned only days earlier from Houston, where she’d spent nine months as an evacuee. In several interviews over the next two months, she shared the story of her year since Katrina. It’s a tale of heartache and hardship, but also of unbowed determination. Like many poor New Orleanians, she was battling misfortune long before the hurricane.

(Message edited by janesback on August 29, 2006)

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