  Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1869 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
Here's an article that I'm surprised wasn't posted yet. The artist who did the window murals in the UA building has come out of the closet so to speak. Very interesting: http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060822/NEW S05/608220348 | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1253 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 |
I've met him before, never woulda guessed, cool. | ||
Sumotect Member Username: Sumotect Post Number: 238 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 64.243.32.9 |
Looks like he wants a little attention. The cops don't have the time, but I imagine pizza man's lawyers have completed a nice letter, which would be the first step in squeezing whatever this guy has out of him. | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 762 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139 |
"I am not a vandal", he claims. Horse hockey. Tar and feather him, I say. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4861 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 198.111.166.19 |
Good job, The Ghettoman and STREET PROPHETS salute you for your beautiful ghetto art. | ||
Miketoronto Member Username: Miketoronto Post Number: 269 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 65.92.150.248 |
That art was amazing. I wish they left it up. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7770 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Here is my issue: Yes, the windows would need to be replaced and he makes an effort to not ruin brick or other materials. Good for him. The problem is when other punks see this they assume it is perfectly acceptable to tag anything they want. The rationale of 'if this building looks like that I can tag anything' is an easy justification to use for some of the little fucks. I'm not going to lie and say that his work has no aesthetic beauty but it falls under the broken window theory and will lead to easier justification for other garfitti punks and taggers. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 119 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
Agreed Jt1 | ||
Solarflare Member Username: Solarflare Post Number: 523 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.112.56.3 |
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Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1262 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.213.86.161 |
I think he call's himself "The Brand" He is also guilty of making a smiley face with large teeth on all kinds of stuff. I say keep your art off other peoples shit. | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 2367 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.29.74 |
ahhaa, the rumors were actually true. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1098 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
As long as he doesn't call himself "The Brad"... | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2682 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.241 |
So he's also scavenged items from old buildings that he has trespassed into... not good! | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1169 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
I hope Ilitch takes him for all he's worth. And get out of the Lafayette Building you scumbag. | ||
Sinorswim Member Username: Sinorswim Post Number: 4 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 198.36.89.4 |
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zo om.gne?id=4623517&context=set- 163820&size=l | ||
Dalangdon Member Username: Dalangdon Post Number: 52 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 66.54.213.11 |
I think the essential contradicition is summed up nicely in this sentence from the article "The structure is abandoned and owned by the Ilitch family" People shouldn't vandalize, of course. But people should take care of their stuff as well. just my .02 | ||
Vas Member Username: Vas Post Number: 601 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.40.89.188 |
Keep up the good work. Its nice to see a little color in our abandoned downtown buildings! | ||
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 281 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152 |
It's wrong, but it sure looks better than a Jeep advertisement. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 1191 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
And a Jeep ad sure looks better than a faded, dead fish. | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 479 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.33 |
Maybe he should make a huge Red Wings logo or the Little Caesar's guy in the windows and then everyone will be happy. | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 200 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 24.247.163.145 |
Heh, I doubt Ilitch really cared about it on the UA. No one seemed to be vocally upset about it, therefore he didn't have to spend the money removing it beforehand. However, I think it was an obligation for him to have it removed for the Superbowl so the building would look good behind the sign soliciting the property. The paint wasn't bad on the windows. It's actually not all that difficult to remove off glass. However, I'm afraid, as JT1 said, that it would make people think it's acceptable to paint on buildings, and pretty soon that stuff ends up on brick, marble, and limestone. I'd be more happy with the police catching whoever does all those EGGS MONEY, HUGHES TRIZZLE, and TURTL tags though. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1357 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186 |
I think it would be funny if this guy got a fat bill from Ilitch for the cleaning of the windows. I don't think he could dispute paying it. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8737 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58 |
This guy seems exceptionally bright. "I wouldn't call what he does graffiti," said Mark Sengbusch, an artist who works at the Detroit Artists Market. "Kevin is doing something different. It's like fine-art graffiti." So is it graffiti or isn't it? Much like you if have a fracture or you don't, there is no in between. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 6343 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
I had to look up the proper definition of the term...from the dictionary.com website, although it seems they want me to post this credit:
It seems that you are right Goat, it IS graffiti AND it isn't. Or it's ALL graffiti, I'm so confused. Apparently IF it offensive, that is ONLY because it is on rock or stone...glass graffito didn't make the offensive listing in this dictionary. graf·fi·to (gr-ft) n. pl. graf·fi·ti (-t) A drawing or inscription made on a wall or other surface, usually so as to be seen by the public. Often used in the plural. [Italian, diminutive of graffio, a scratching, scribble, probably from graffiare, to scratch, scribble, probably from Vulgar Latin *graphire, to write with a stylus, from Latin graphium, stylus, from Greek grapheion, graphion, from graphein, to write. See gerbh- in Indo-European Roots.] Usage Note: The word graffiti is a plural noun in Italian. In English graffiti is far more common than the singular form graffito and is mainly used as a singular noun in much the same way data is. When the reference is to a particular inscription (as in There was a bold graffiti on the wall), the form graffito would be etymologically correct but might strike some readers as pedantic outside an archaeological context. There is no substitute for the singular use of graffiti when the word is used as a mass noun to refer to inscriptions in general or to the related social phenomenon. The sentence Graffiti is a major problem for the Transit Authority Police cannot be reworded Graffito is... (since graffito can refer only to a particular inscription) or Graffiti are... (which suggests that the police problem involves only the physical marks and not the larger issue of vandalism). In such contexts, the use of graffiti as a singular is justified by both utility and widespread precedent. graffiti n : a rude decoration inscribed on rocks or walls [syn: graffito] graffiti Handwriting recognition software for the Newton and Zoomer which recognises symbols that aren't necessarily letters. This gives greater speed and accuracy. It was written by Berkeley Softworks. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 6344 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
As for the Ilitch cleanup bill being forwarded to a bartender at TJs...gimme a break. IF the Ilitch group knows its PR, they'll leave this guy alone. I'll have to start going back to Traffic Jam and tipping him more than usual to help him with his future legal expenses...which if they don't materialize would turn it into a donation for the arts. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8738 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58 |
Gannon, now I'm confused... | ||
Exmotowner Member Username: Exmotowner Post Number: 34 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 66.179.93.98 |
It is vandelism and he needs to be put in Jail. Whether we like the Illiches or not (and most dont) is not the point. Thats not his building to be painting on and if it were anyone else they would already have their asses in jail. No excuses for this guy. Hes a CRIMINAL!!! Whether its good art or bad art, if VanGogh was painting a mural on my building without premission, I would have his ass canned. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 6363 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
Goat, LOL...we use language SO loosely...but true that your quoted fellow was splitting hairs. Hey Ex, Why would you put THIS guy in jail, alongside murders, rapists, thiefs, and the like?! What good would that actually do for society or for him?! Thank goodness Kym Worthy is aiming at larger fish. He obviously didn't do the Ilitch building in one night. They are absent enough to allow some tame but misguided artist to run rampant through their buildings, what ELSE do you think goes down there?! They are the much bigger criminals...along with EVERY other greedy slumlord who buys a building and lets it sit to rot. Every office downtown could be leased IF they priced the space accordingly...we could empty some suburban buildings in an instant IF the landlords started a lease space bidding war. (I KNOW this is utopian dreaming, but as long as the supply increases and demand stays low the price SHOULD go down until they are filled more than now, especially if we gave employees working in the city a vote in proportion to the taxes they pay...hell, I'd give an attorney from the Pointes a full voting share for creating jobs and additional tax income, perhaps we need to investigate some way to give these taxpayers a voice) But like NDavies says, it is overall cheaper to leave them empty. Well, he said that about first floor, but why can't we extrapolate that to the rest of the building?! Might as well tear all that schitt down. Dirt lots are SO much cheaper to maintain...just keep the grass and weeds from starting. Run a bunch of cars over 'em regularly. | ||
Crew Member Username: Crew Post Number: 1011 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 146.9.52.35 |
VanGogh is dead. I doubt you can have a dead person canned. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 6369 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
LOL, please tell me you meant caned, it is relatively easy with the right processing equipment to can a dead anything!! | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1080 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
Defacing other's property is a crime. This guy should spend some time in jail and/or receive a fine. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7774 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.19.25.106 |
Tons fo community service painting homes/buildings. Make him spend 2000 hours painting homes of senior citizens or scrubbing grafitti. Our legal system is not a jail or nothing scenario. |
