  East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 698 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194 |
What is it about certain urban explorers who feel a need to destroy property? http://www.datavibe.net/~krhn/ images/Detroit/whitney/cwdata/ David_whitney20.html | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 661 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
those assholes, AndyLinn I know you agree with me | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 734 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.61.194.237 |
They figure "It's just Detroit, nobody cares" | ||
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris Post Number: 371 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24 |
here's another shot of the asshole's at Wide Open Detroit's work. http://www.datavibe.net/~krhn/ images/Detroit/whitney/cwdata/ David_whitney32.html | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 662 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
the thing is, they have a website focused on entering buildings. It's one thingto break in and look, It's another to break shit or deface property | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 663 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
duuuuuuuude, this is gettin' me angry. Where is Andy Linn! | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 197 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 24.247.163.145 |
I've seen a user here post under the handle here as wideopendetroit. Perhaps this individual can explain why the hell they are doing this. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 664 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
Wolverine, they are on here, they are the ones that started the thread of breaking into Tiger Stadium. Mother fuckin assholes, I say re-instate lynching. | ||
Kova Member Username: Kova Post Number: 68 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.212.230.75 |
and this one!! http://img158.imageshack.us/my .php?image=dyesju7.jpg hehe  kidding | ||
Psip Member Username: Psip Post Number: 1126 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 68.60.45.70 |
I say we knock them (the taggers) on the head, then let a 3 year old tatoo them | ||
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker Post Number: 1453 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.157.64.108 |
While this photo is from a railroad car graffiti response, I'll post it here, because I feel like it.  You want to be an artist, buy some canvas. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2876 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213 |
14 years working with Photoshop tell me that the last image [the one linked by Kova], if not all three, of those tags were done in Photoshop after the pictures was taken. Any verification otherwise? | ||
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker Post Number: 1455 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.157.64.108 |
The last one looks like it was done in MS Paint, due to regularity of the pixel bleeding of the airbrush tool. So, I concur with that. As to the others, you'd have to individually recolorthe pixels to get the shading. A pain in the ass to do, but not impossible, and something I do in my PSs. There's no regularity to the overspray, as in the black PSed graffiti on the white marble. That's my opinion, for what it's worth. Hard to tell in such compressed photos. | ||
Gumby Member Username: Gumby Post Number: 1353 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.60.143.186 |
The las one was obviously a joke. See "hehe kidding" | ||
Motif Member Username: Motif Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 71.79.114.125 |
is it me our one of those pix of the david look like the ground floor is all wet its the 7th pic. | ||
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee Post Number: 36 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.239.60 |
I think it would be good if one of the buildings collapsed while that renegade band of assholes was in it. Of course we would all feel pain in our hearts if one of Detroit's historic buildings collapsed | ||
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker Post Number: 1456 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 12.64.78.18 |
Well, W-ever-TF they wanted to accomplish, they got a reaction out of us, so they probably achieved what they wanted to. Next time, try to be a little creative,and post high res versions. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 456 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
If you look on their website, some of the photos posted here are on there and not tagged. They do photoshop their "tag" on all their photos. It's quite obvious. I still don't agree, but it's all photoshop. | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 198 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 24.247.163.145 |
The one with the grafitti on the roof is real. I made a remark about it in another thread about what a pain in the ass it is to remove that off the brick since all the equipment would have to be brought up there. (Message edited by wolverine on August 21, 2006) | ||
Pdtpuck Member Username: Pdtpuck Post Number: 180 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.251.168.194 |
the thing that sprang to my mind while reading this thread is, "Is it really urban 'exploration' when these jerks do crap like this?" It seems that with "true" urban explorers (although I'm hardly an expert!), they truly love their "work" and what they do, and they don't destroy anything (on purpose), and leave great photos & stories for us to read & see (detroitblog, Kohrman report, detroitfunk, etc.). These clowns seem to be all about self-promotion, or destroying things just for the sake of destroying something (must be HUGE Limp Bizkit fans!), or their friends laughing along with them as they all gather 'round the computer & circle jerk to their latest video on youtube.com! Photo-shopped or not, I'm sure this happens to great abandoned bldgs. more often than we see or hear about. | ||
Hockey_player Member Username: Hockey_player Post Number: 235 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.18.137 |
None of those are Photoshopped, except the obvious Detroityes joke. In fact, the guys at wideopendetroit admitted on the Tiger Stadium thread that they spray-painted their URL on the roof. In addition, you can see their "logo" not only on their website: http://wideopendetroit.com but it's also visible from street level in painted form on the upper-level windows of the David Whitney Building. These guys have made a habit of simultaneously exploring and vandalizing, and routinely justify it. | ||
Mikeydbn Member Username: Mikeydbn Post Number: 326 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 68.41.96.170 |
Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: Ez-DomainNameRegistration.com Domain Name: WIDEOPENDETROIT.COM Created on: 22-Mar-04 Expires on: 22-Mar-08 Last Updated on: 17-May-06 From their website: The majority of Domains by Proxy customers act within the letter of the law. However, on occasion our service is used in conjunction with illegal or immoral behavior. If you believe a domain registration we hold violates the law or someone’s legal rights or is engaged in morally objectionable activities, we want to fully investigate the matter and act where we can. If you identify a situation you believe warrants our attention, please contact us via certified or courier mail: DOMAINS BY PROXY Attn: Legal Complaints 15111 N. Hayden Road, Suite 160 PMB 353 Scottsdale, AZ 85260 | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7762 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
The wideopen graffitti on the windows of the Broderick certainly were not photoshopped. Funny thing is I exchanged a couple of e-mails with one of the guys (so as to not clutter the board) and he stated that they don't tag buildings and it was one of the guys that was part of their group that did it but they no longer hang out with him. Sounds like someone was lying. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 209 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.141.144.2 |
Chitaku - i totally agree... it pisses my shit off... i HATE always finding broken windows... there is graffitti i admire, beautiful ARTWORK, but frequently graffitti - the bad kind - and the more common kind - is stuff like "i have a big dick!" written in permaninant marker... shit... | ||
Mallory Member Username: Mallory Post Number: 52 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 207.230.140.240 |
The grafitti is one thing, but the true shame is that fact that this beautiful building is not currently occupied. Can you imagine how awesome this place would be if it was refurbed and online? The lobby/atrium alone is worth admission. Any news about opening it back up? | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
It is Trespassing and vandalism and is very easily traceable to who did the work. FYI For those who are concerned with the historical buildings featured, an investigation has been started with the DPD on behalf of some of the owners of the buildings photographed and vandalized by www.wideopendetroit.com. It definitely helps when you have leverage with the city. Any new information will be helpful. Stay tuned for the results. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2879 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213 |
This disturbing message came in the mailbox today... Posted with names removed. "*** and I were in the Whitney yesterday and indeed the graf artists, scrappers, thieves and vandals have taken over. Fixtures are missing from the first few floors. When we were there, there were 2 taggers up on the roof (not wideopen) and when we left we could hear some scrapping going on in the lobby. I totally felt like my hands were tied when there are 4 or 5 people to the 2 of us. *** made a bunch of phone calls to people he knows that can get hold of the owner, but if the owner doesn't care, nothing will happen. The Wideopen tags are definitely real, as are the smashed walls, removed plumbing, removed artifacts (elevator call boxes stand out) and general vandalism and destruction. It turned my stomach to see such a mess. Hopefully they secure the building before it gets too much worse. What happened to just enjoying something's beauty. *** was in there back in June and said the building was practically pristine then. A shame what a couple months of disrespectful people can do. I did not want to post on the board as I did not want the general public to know I was in there..." | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2673 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.242 |
Do we know who the owners are.... Let's do some picketting in front of the owners business establishment (or residence)... | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7764 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Wide open detroit changed the registration info: Here was the info listed when they were called out on the TS thread: Registrant: Eleventh Hour Alchemy 6512 rowley dr waterford, Michigan 48329 United States Registered through: Ez-DomainNameRegistration.com Domain Name: WIDEOPENDETROIT.COM Created on: 22-Mar-04 Expires on: 22-Mar-08 Last Updated on: 17-May-06 Administrative Contact: maxwell, brent brentmaxwell@comcast.net Eleventh Hour Alchemy 6512 rowley dr waterford, Michigan 48329 United States 2487363128 Fax -- 2484616068 Technical Contact: maxwell, brent brentmaxwell@comcast.net Eleventh Hour Alchemy 6512 rowley dr waterford, Michigan 48329 United States 2487363128 Fax -- 2484616068 Domain servers in listed order: NS3.SECURESERVER.NET NS4.SECURESERVER.NET (Message edited by jt1 on August 21, 2006) | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 563 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 35.12.26.137 |
Brent Maxwell, huh? I hope that punk gets what he deserves. This really turns my stomach also. What happened to the guard that used to be in there? Sadly, it appears that the Whitney has started down the all-too-familiar long road of destruction from which there may be no return. And yes, if the owner doesn't give a damn, there's little that can be done. The police don't have the manpower to watch the building 24/7. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7766 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
IN his defense he may have only registered the website. I exchanged an e-mail with him and he stated that they don't tag but an old buddy of theirs does. He just registered the site. That is not the same as being the one with the can of spray paint. | ||
Burnsie Member Username: Burnsie Post Number: 564 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 35.12.26.137 |
Doesn't registering a website imply that you are somewhat concerned with what comprises the website? Regardless of whether Messr. Maxwell has sprayed paint at the Whitney himself, his website states, "Wide Open Detroit does not condone illegal activity, acts of vandalism, or the trespass upon or destruction of other people's property. We do, however, advocate freedom of expression, graffiti as a recognized art form..." It's interesting how that passage says Wide Open Detroit doesn't "condone" graffiti, but does "advocate" it. That's quite a contradictory set of statements! Since Maxwell allegedly distances himself from graffiti, perhaps he'd like to give the police the name of his old buddy that does? | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 118 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.14.250.85 |
All this will be helpful information toward the investigation. Keep posting. |
