  Sumotect Member Username: Sumotect Post Number: 235 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 64.243.32.9 |
The freep reports that Jack White's Indian Village home is for sale. He obviously couldn't handle all the crime Here is the link to the house and its history. Is it me or is Jack White looking a lot like Don Knotts????? http://www.1731seminole.com/ | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 600 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108 |
What a cool link! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 889 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
This is down the street from me. I think it's a bit rash to say it's the crime that's made him move. I think he's into some hick scene right now...is all. Meg is still our neighbor though. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10488 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Well now, that should drop $50K off the price right there, site unseen. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 439 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5 |
I dig the music on the history link. Anyone have any idea who the woman is that is singing. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1071 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060817/U PDATE/608170457 | ||
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick Post Number: 386 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.55.51 |
Anyone have any idea who the woman is that is singing Thelma Lou??? | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 520 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.174.128 |
if you click on the banner in the top left "1731 Seminole" it takes you here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1 731_in_music why | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 521 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.174.128 |
and the pineapples are linked too | ||
Sknutson Member Username: Sknutson Post Number: 669 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 67.114.23.202 |
He purchased it for $1.00???? | ||
Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1255 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.47.193.132 |
Speaking of Jack White leaving the city, I saw The Raconteurs at Lollapalooza, and was irritated at the fact that during their performance, Brendan Benson (Guitar and Vocals) and a Detroiter mind you, stopped looked at Jack White and said, “We are The Raconteurs and we hail from Nashville, Tennessee.” Mind you the band has 4 members, and had a keyboardist from Michigan playing with them, in my book 5 members, 3 of whom are from MI, 2 from Detroit. I felt a little let down. I know the Detroit rock influence made Jack White who he is, and for a few moments I was bothered. I thought their performance was great. They covered a David Bowie tune, Nancy Sintra’s Bang Bang You shot me Dead, and Gnarls Barkley’s Crazy (which I thought was way better then the original) along with the best tracks off their album. It was one of the highlights of the festival, but I still felt somewhat cheated. Anyway, what a beautiful house! | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5023 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Cheated? Come on. Give me a break. Who the hell cares where they say they're from? | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1072 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
Cher did "Bang Bang" ... | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1073 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
Sknutson, good reading. He bought it for a dollar. | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 1150 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Fascinating! | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 5772 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.57.57.12 |
According to the City Property site, the house is owned by: WHITE, JOHN A III 16000 VENTURA BLVD #600 ENCINO, CA 91436 2006 Summer Tax bill was $17,314.38! Ouch! However he bought it on 03/28/2003 for $524,000.00 | ||
Track75 Member Username: Track75 Post Number: 2371 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.28.155.116 |
$1 deeds are used to hide the true purchase price from prying eyes. With just a little more detective work the News could have unearthed the actual purchase price. | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 5773 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.57.57.12 |
Detective work? Yeah, about 60 seconds on the city website. | ||
Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1256 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.47.193.132 |
Yeah Aram, your right cheated might be a bit strong, but it did give me a weird feeling that they were so deliberate about it. I mean he paused in his sentence, stopped looked at Jack White, and then said Nashville. Maybe not cheated, but I was looking forward to some Detroit pride. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 890 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
Damn...have to admit good one supersquirt. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1847 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.228.57.79 |
Jack's been deliberately making subtle but public barbs about Detroit since moving to Nashville. Seems he's developed a big head since moving to Music City. I've scratched him off my list of favorite bands with the stuff I've read over the past few months. | ||
65memories Member Username: 65memories Post Number: 274 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.73.59.241 |
His ex, Meg White, lives right down the street at the corner of Seminole and Agnes. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5024 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Does the music change just because he says things about Detroit that you don't like? Does that automatically go back, record pure crap on the master tapes, and then somehow change every CD or LP they've ever sold? Come on. We've all read the things Jack White has said about Detroit, and all of it can be interpreted about a thousand different ways. Who the hell cares what he says? That's just thin-skinned "rah-rah Detroit!" bullshit. If it's a good record, it's a good record. He could say he's from the North Pole and that wouldn't change shit. | ||
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl Post Number: 313 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.75.43.165 |
True, good music is good music no matter what the artist says in public that might piss people off. But still, I can see why someone would be pissed off when native Detroiters like Jack White and Brendan Benson are saying they're from Nashville when they're in front of a Detroit audience. Next thing ya know, they'll start faking Tennessee accents the way Madonna is faking her British accent. (Remember her? She used to be from around here, too.) | ||
Focusonthed Member Username: Focusonthed Post Number: 437 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 24.192.25.47 |
Doesn't matter. The music was garbage before, it's still garbage when he claims it's from Nashville. GIGO. It's recycled shit and everyone's buying it. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5025 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
But they didn't say this in front of a Detroit audience- Lollapalooza is in Chicago. | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 376 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65 |
Did the house already have that white and red color scheme before Jack moved in? | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 943 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146 |
If it is such a "jewel," why move? | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 381 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65 |
Jack hates Detroit now. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1853 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
Part of the music, and what helped shape the White Stripes sound, is Detroit. The whole of it: the good, the bad, the people, the buildings, the culture, etc. The White Stripes would not have sounded the way they do if they started in Nashville. Likewise Jack White would be no body if he'd started the White Stripes in Nashville, LA, NY, etc. The White Stripes would have been just another band. So no, the music itself hasn't changed. But the story behind the music that added to it's greatness has changed. I'll keep my White Stripes CDs, but I don't plan on buying any new ones to support Jack and his pompous attitude. | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 1074 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.248.9.131 |
I'll bet the realtor ends up having to paint over the red, white & black color scheme. With a $900k plus price tag, it might be hard to get someone in that price range (who can afford the $20K Detroit taxes)who happens to like Jack's candy-stripe color palette. | ||
Gary Member Username: Gary Post Number: 182 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 69.221.93.113 |
That's a beautiful home. But 900K plus taxes, utilities and maintenance? Good luck I could probably live with the red striped decor, but I would definitely have to do something about those puke-green walls in that bedroom. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 648 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.212.45.59 |
Did anyone see the song about the frog? I think Jack or someone he knows made this website, becasue it is similar to the White Stripes early website. Either way, If I can get 20 of my friends we might be able to afford it. chitaku- dreamin' in woodbridge | ||
Monahan568 Member Username: Monahan568 Post Number: 140 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 64.32.219.138 |
the song on the history page - 10 cents a Dance Ruth Etting - 1930 Words - Lorenz Hart Music - Richard Rodgers | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3553 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.222.10.3 |
We had a thread on the homes that Crane did a while back. Didnt know he did this one. | ||
Janesback Member Username: Janesback Post Number: 17 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.152.250.195 |
Ruth Etting, singer/moviestar http://imdb.com/name/nm0262190 / | ||
Cambrian Member Username: Cambrian Post Number: 3 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 75.10.91.78 |
I see references to urban crime, burglaries etc. Gotta dial in. When I lived in Redford Twp. People taking things from the yard, porch and cars was a regularly annoying occurrence. A work friend who lived a block over had none of these problems. I figured out my misfortune was due to the home being on a corner lot, kids would walk by the house to and from school and get a good look at what we had. I now live in an east side suburb, I have no issues, although I see in the local paper that some neighbors have had problems, including bikes stolen from the porch, break ins where the perpetrator seems to know exactly to look for the jewelry and cash; makes me wonder if some people are entertaining individuals they shouldn’t be. I remember as a kid in Southfield, all the neighborhood’s crime was attributed to one of my so called friends. He would befriend you, come over scope out your parents house and break in while everyone was gone. I just thought I'd share that. Some of the messages start sounding like property crimes or crime in general is just a Detroit problem, not true. It's all about the three triangle diagram of crime. I know two sides were opportunity and desire. I can't recall what the third side was, but suffice it to say, if you remove any side of the triangle, you won't have crime. Also do you respect the neighborhood? Scotty Simpsons a white owned and frequented restaurant has been in Brightmoor for fifty six years. There has never been a burglary or any other type of crime there ever! They are grateful for all their customer’s no matter where they are from and let them know it. | ||
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man Post Number: 72 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 69.221.80.238 |
quote: ______________________________ ___________________ True, good music is good music no matter what the artist says in public that might piss people off. ______________________________ ____________________ Tell that to the Dixie Chicks. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2895 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.69.190 |
Quinn, didn't you previously (after the original claim of the suburbs that is) claim to live in Woodbridge? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 2038 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.36.81 |
J. White lived in a white house. Coincidence? I think not. Wow a Crane-designed home?! So rare...gotta love Indian Village. | ||
Neilr Member Username: Neilr Post Number: 322 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.60.139.212 |
Another coincidence: C. Howard Crane's own home on Boston Blvd. is currently for sale. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 2043 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.36.81 |
Is it any of these? http://www.detroitoldhouse.com /boston_edison.htm I'm curious as to how big his house was. Albert Kahn's house on Mack Ave., and Robert O. Derrick's house on Ridge in Grosse Pointe Farms are both much smaller and, in Derrick's case, simpler, than the homes they would design. | ||
Caseyc Member Username: Caseyc Post Number: 616 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 206.18.111.5 |
interesting stats on that link....there are 13 houses for sale listed in a range beginning at $300K and stretching up to 1 million+. In the past 3 years, only one house has sold in the neighborhood for more than 300K and that was for 365K (and that was in '04). Talk about a buyer's market, particularly for those houses sitting on the high end of that range. | ||
Neilr Member Username: Neilr Post Number: 323 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.60.139.212 |
Mackinaw, I don't know the address right off. It's on the north side of Boston Blvd. between Hamilton and the Lodge. It's a red brick, colonial-revival style, center entrance house. It's, to me, a good-looking substancial house with ideal proportions for the windows, entrance portico, and dormers. However, the house is not nearly the size, nor to the standards, of Jack White's house. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1840 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.219.103.57 |
I believe you mean that Renee Zellweger's old home is for sale. Jack was just some guy who lived there. Renee was the one that made the neighborhood that much cooler. | ||
Pdtpuck Member Username: Pdtpuck Post Number: 174 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.251.168.194 |
Yeah, and I heard the video, too | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1286 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.73.202.154 |
That is a great house, and a nice website. I had originally heard that he had painted all of the rooms red, but there's actually a good mix of interior colors. I like the brown, green, etc. (Of course I hate houses where every single room is painted off-white, ugh.) The red-and-white-striped tile may be a bit much, but it is only a basement bathroom, and that obvious Jack White-ism adds a bit of character to the home. (Not that the house doesn't already have plenty of character.) The price seems a bit high given the current market, but you never know. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1145 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
Caseyc, You missed one other: 52 Chicago for 325,000 this past May | ||
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm Post Number: 1058 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.35.85.184 |
Annual property taxes about $19,500. WOW. A similarly valued house here would carry annual property taxes of about $6,500-7,000. | ||
Ramcharger Member Username: Ramcharger Post Number: 41 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 68.42.78.175 |
Jiminnm, where is "here"? | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1146 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
New Mexico. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2666 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.109 |
I don't know Jack White from Jack Shit... who's Jack White, and why are y'all making such a big ta'doo over someone that not everyone is familiar with?? Who are the Raconteurs? Geeze don't tell me I was in Europe the month they became famous?? I mean you're not talkin' about Eminem, Madonna, Aretha, Kid Rock or any other local who is ACTUALLY famous?? So why the fuss? (Of course to put it into perspective... I was just at a gas station where the clerk told a young kid in front of me that he looked a lot like Ricky Ricardo.... and the kid replied "Who's Ricky Ricardo?...)  | ||
Pam Member Username: Pam Post Number: 385 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 4.229.12.151 |
Jack of the White Stripes. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 656 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
Actually he is really famous and much classier than the above mentioned | ||
Jelk Member Username: Jelk Post Number: 4009 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.248.55.84 |
I think Jack White's Detroit disenfranishment is just his way of fucking with his fans. There is a lot about the Jack White persona that looks like it was lifted from Bob Dylan's early career. The whole Jack and Meg siblings or spouses thing wasn't all that different from Dylan's wandering orphan shtick he tried to pass off early in his career. White's distancing himself from Detroit, Dylan's efforts to not only break away from the folk scene but alienate the crusty old Folkies. White going to Nashville and forming a new group, Dylan's Nashville Skyline album. The best part is so many people fell for it then with Dylan and now with Jack White. Say what you will about both but they are showmen and they get your attention.
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Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1073 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
How the hell can ANYONE afford property taxes like that? You could love everything about the city, the house, be willing to put up with the bad, but taxes like that would make me (and most others) run like hell. That is ABSURD. | ||
Xd_brklyn Member Username: Xd_brklyn Post Number: 178 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.88.89.94 |
Being involved in the Detroit rock of the Bookies/Freezer era, it definitely had its camaderie and consolidated struggle against lousy clubs, radio's feign enthusiasm, music industry neglect, and most importantly the boredom and vacancy of the city. Often you would play a gig and the folks in the audience would be friend's and members from other bands. It was a big boost and important consolation for lack of a large audience. Having a couple of fellow musicians whose sound you enjoyed at your show at least told you that you were on the right track. Always think of that opening scene in "24-Hour Party People" where the Sex Pistols are playing in front of a few people in Manchester but those few folks in the audience would go on to form the Buzzcocks, Joy Division and Industrial Records. Often this stuff is just taken for granted when artists become successful and they move on, but Jack White at the start of his success did a lot more for his fellow musicians than other similiar scenes in rock music. A lot of people took this to heart, while others complained and sniped at his efforts. The analogy to Dylan is apt. Not only was his departure from Detroit a break with his early fan base but just as important was his recording of a Coca-cola commercial. Normally an artist doing this would be no big deal, but early White was frantic about not singing "Fire at the Taco Bell" even as backup or under a false name. It seems White didn't want to role play anymore with all the expectations of being an indie musician. It was a break of character and part of Jack White's early character that he adopted was tied to this creative industrial noise Freemason-like craziness that can be associated with part of Detroit's heritage. No matter what the environment, Jack White is a talented songwriter and he'll continue to pen songs, but what I felt to an interesting play and persona is over for him. It remains to be seen if he can create something as captivating. Hope this answers the question why certain forum posters think Jack White's departure is revelant and often news on this forum. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 893 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Jerome81 Actually, with the new tax break, our millage in IV will be lower than Ferndale's. How do you like that? Better homes and cheaper taxes. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1076 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.153.103.15 |
Well that's good to know. Is that tax # for the new millage or old? | ||
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap Post Number: 538 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 70.229.231.102 |
A real coincidence is that Jack's brother Leo's house is also for sale and is also a notable house: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/O PINION03/608160414/1005/LIFEST YLE | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1852 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.255.239.245 |
Interesting side note: the house's web site made it on the 9. http://9.yahoo.com/ | ||
Amy_p Member Username: Amy_p Post Number: 686 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.21 |
National blurb with no Detroit digs: TMZ.com |
