Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 112 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.102
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:32 am: | |
As part of "doing my thing" to help those in need, twice a week I buy lunch or dinner (a full meal, not just my left overs) for a homeless person in need of a warm meal. Yesterday I drove down Jefferson from Indian Village to downtown without encountering anyone who appeared to be homeless or hungry. This has been a trend that I have been awakened to over the past few months. It appears that the homeless numbers seem to be going down (at least in terms of visibility). Anyone else noticing a trend? Am I crazy? |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 593 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:42 am: | |
They are all still at that Superbowl party |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 4822 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:42 am: | |
NO Detroitstar, The Homeless levels in Detroit are going UP UP UP!! This is due to lots of eviction notices, lost of common house and building fires with no insurances and lack of jobs. Or just kicked out by your folks. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2014 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:44 am: | |
Drive slower...look in the alleys--I'm sure there are some. There have got to be some downtown always. I've noticed a lot more street-walkers on the eastern fringe i.e. Jefferson-Chalmers and along Mack near GPP. That would be strange if there were LESS homeless, even with a good economy. But I am impressed by your good deeds. |
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus
Post Number: 228 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:50 am: | |
I saw a bunch yesterday on Grand River west of Woodward |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2091 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:53 am: | |
I'm sure if you donated money to one of the homeless agencies in the city they would be able to find the homeless for you. Giving food or money directly to the homeless does them no good. They need far more help than the food or money you give them will provide. Your money combined with other helpful peoples money can make a lasting difference to their lives. It also leads to people begging on the streets and scaring away people who feel threatened by them. Also how do you know the people you are giving the food/money too are truley the needy. How do you know they will stop at just what you are willing to give them. Seems like you're taking a huge risk to placate your guilt by doing something that has miniscule real value. Giving money to people on the street only helps perpetuate the situation they are in. |
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond
Post Number: 36 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 67.38.28.69
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:57 am: | |
I've been "doing my thing" by picking up one each day on my way home from work and dropping them in various Oakland County Suburbs. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 113 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.102
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:17 am: | |
Ndavies, I do give money to support their causes through agencies, however that does not help those get from day to day. lol at Buddyinrichmond |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2094 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:33 am: | |
COTS, the capuchin soup kitchen, the salvation army and the numerous church groups all do more to help these people go day to day than your sporadic donations do. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 115 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:36 am: | |
Quality, not quantity...so your saying I should not do this? Last I knew it was not bad to feed the hungry. |
Thecarl
Member Username: Thecarl
Post Number: 934 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:40 am: | |
quote:As part of "doing my thing" to help those in need, twice a week I buy lunch or dinner (a full meal, not just my left overs) for a homeless person in need of a warm meal.
how cruel. why don't you give them some bourbon or barbiturates, which is what they really want? |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2095 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:47 am: | |
It's not bad to feed the hungry. Just consider how and when you do it. Your few dollars will help more people if you do it through an agency. It will do more good if it can be given along with the other support the agencies are more capable of providing. While food is their most immediate need, They have other larger, longer term needs that have to be filled. (Message edited by ndavies on August 17, 2006) |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 116 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 11:56 am: | |
Ndavies, trust me...I dont just feed them and then leave them in the same position. I work in the non-profit sector, and I try to discuss life on the streets with them. I also offer information about Samaritan Center and other alternatives that can put them on a better path. |
Redetroit Member Username: Redetroit
Post Number: 35 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.218.159.86
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:02 pm: | |
Drive down East Jefferson, just past East Grand Boulevard, and make a right on Jefferson Court. I think they all moved there... |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 370 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:05 pm: | |
I saw some in Grand Circus Park during the theater tour last weekend. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2096 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:09 pm: | |
quote:I work in the non-profit sector, and I try to discuss life on the streets with them. I also offer information about Samaritan Center and other alternatives that can put them on a better path.
Maybe that's why you can't find them anymore. They see you coming and run the other way. The food's not worth the sermon. |
Solarflare Member Username: Solarflare
Post Number: 512 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.112.56.3
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:09 pm: | |
We get it. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 118 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:11 pm: | |
oh the ignorance |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2097 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:13 pm: | |
Damn,I was thinking exactly the same thing. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 868 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:20 pm: | |
Nice that you do this detroitstar. I disagree though...I haven't seen a decrease in the homeless...in fact I've seen an increase of them in my neighborhood...with shopping carts, on bikes. |
Superduperman Member Username: Superduperman
Post Number: 137 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.221.36
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
There are a few homeless that I buy Mickey D's for a few times a week that hang out in front of National City Bank on Alexandrine and Woodward,now I know some of you might scoff at Mickey D's and say that it isn't a meal but its what I eat a few times a week myself because I don't cook at all. The only downside I'd have to say is that now whenever they see me somewhere they always ask me about buying more food. |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 3991 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:40 pm: | |
Cass Park. They are all in Cass Park. I suggest that if you care for the homeless so much come by Cass Park, pick one up, and take him/her home like a stray dog. Does that sound inhumane? So if encouraging homeless people to take over a public park so you can feed them prison-grade spagetti and deliver a hate whitey bible beating session like certain Detroit-based megachurches do in Cass Park on an almost daily basis. There is perhaps no greater symbol of Detroit's disfunction then using a beautiful green space like Cass Park as a social service dumping ground. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 823 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:02 pm: | |
Detroitstar, I agree wholeheartedly with NDavies on this one. There are agencys in the city whose sole purpose is to get to these homeless and place them in homes or get them the shelter, food, mental help that they need. I also believe that feeding them on the street only encourages them to stay there. It's a wonderful thought, but it just isn't helping anyone. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 120 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:10 pm: | |
Gambling man, let's ask the 20 people that took advantage of my offer and now have jobs and housing. As well as the 12 more that are in the process... geez...I simply asked where people went, not how best to accuse someone trying to help out. |
Jfried Member Username: Jfried
Post Number: 880 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.190
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:16 pm: | |
you people truly need to get over yourselves. this person is obviously trying to do something to help the less fortunate, but it doesn't meet your standard of logic, so you beat detroitstar up?! give me a break. a simple "you should think about donating to x...y....z.. charities" would be sufficient, rather than going on some holier-than-thou sermon. |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 3994 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:20 pm: | |
The Mariners Inn truly tries to help people. More than try, they actually do help people turn their lives around in a real and long-term way. Detroitstar sounds like the Tim Treadwell for the homeless.
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Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1079 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:25 pm: | |
Jsut watched a two hour documentary on him... True Darwinism Mr. Treadwell ... or whatever your name really was. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 122 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:25 pm: | |
Actually Jelk, my day to day work is with a non-profit that I founded and chair in Detroit. We work with 107 teenagers ages 16-18, just sent 4 to college and have over $800,000 in grants... and that is after only being established less than 18 months ago.is that enough to meet the standards of this forum, or am I just jerking off? (Message edited by DetroitSTAR on August 17, 2006) |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 3996 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 1:36 pm: | |
You sound like a jerk-off if you ask me. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 877 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:12 pm: | |
Wow...detroitstar you are a way better person than me. Wait...maybe you just aren't as lazy. ;)Anyway, keep up the good work...you sound like a fantastic human being. God knows we need a bunch of you. Lesson to Jelk...see how self-depricating humor is good and doesn't take anything away from me? |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 125 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:13 pm: | |
Quinn, that doesnt mean I'm lazy...just means I make good use of the few times when I'm not!! |
Toledolaw05 Member Username: Toledolaw05
Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 72.240.58.198
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:17 pm: | |
I think Jennifer Granholm must have found jobs for all of them. With 4 years of creating numerous good paying jobs under her belt, I am sure they are now making a living wadge under one of her new job creation programs. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 879 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:17 pm: | |
"maybe you just aren't as lazy" = as lazy as ME. Plainly, you stop and get out of your car to feed homeless...that in itself makes me lazy, you not lazy. It's all I can do to mow the freakin' grass. |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 3998 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:28 pm: | |
Detroitstar, you get out of your car to feed the homeless but do you ever come back later, get out of your car and clean up the human feces homeless people often leave in allys after getting a free street meal from people like you? Or is that just something you leave to people like my landlord? |
Solarflare Member Username: Solarflare
Post Number: 514 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.69.106.3
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:33 pm: | |
Yes, homeless people are only crapping in the alley because Detroitstar gave them food. Maybe they crapped in your alley because you're an asshole. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 126 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:34 pm: | |
Actually Jelk, part of the program I run with the teens cleans up abandonded lots, alleys, parks etc around the city in an effort to help our neighborhoods "one street at a time". So in a word...yes. |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 15 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.237.179
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:37 pm: | |
Why would Detroit have a problem with homeless people? hundreds or possibly thousands of homeless who are sleeping outside. This is in the city with thousands of abandoned homes and apartments. The homeless should be allowed to reside in abandoned buildings. I'm an advocate for the less fortunate being helped as much as they can be and I would only use this idea as like a temporary solution. I think this problem only needs common sense to be solved |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1085 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:40 pm: | |
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA... great joke! *sigh* |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4001 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:43 pm: | |
Excuse me for believing feeding people on the streets is hardly humane. Organizations that provide not only food but other facilities to assist homeless people get back on their feet are noble and righteous and deserve our support. However, I believe that people handing a homeless guy a sandwich and a Bible verse are in fact doing more harm than good, not only for the homeless but for society in general. And I don’t believe Detroitstar in the non-profit hero he/she claims to be. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 882 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:44 pm: | |
omg |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 16 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.235.189
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:44 pm: | |
I don't think its the worst idea. It's better than the state of Michigan plan. Cut taxes, close metal hospitals, dump thousands of mentally ill people in a city that already has a long list of problems to deal with |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2108 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.233
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:48 pm: | |
Milwakee, What an incredibly naive statement. So you want them to live in a house that's falling down with no water, electricity or gas. You want them to live in someone elses dangerous property with no insurance? You want people to open their maybe empty but in good shpae houses for free? Or do you want the already broke city to pay to keep these houses livable? Who the pays for this? The landlord that abondoned the structure or the broke city who has enough trouble dealing with the necessities of the tax paying citizens. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 127 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:49 pm: | |
When did I say anything about a bible verse? When did I say anything about just giving them a sandwich? Each time I spend about 1 hour with the individual. I buy them lunch, discuss life in general with them. My work brings me very close to those less fortunate. If I know where they come from, what they need, it can give me the background I need to establish new programs to help people in their situation. Like I said, I always give them a reference to services that can help them. I am always curteous and never talk down to them. Get off your high horse. And by the way, I am not a non-profit hero. I am simply helping those who need help. I'm not looking for any recognition. But you know what, since you keep digging more into what I do...I'll take the recognition that your providing. Thanks. |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 18 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.235.189
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:53 pm: | |
I admit, its a bad idea to let the homeless live in dangerous and dirty buildings. I really have no idea where Detroit would get the money to do the project. It's just ironic that there are so many homeless in a city known for its abundence of uninhabited buildings. |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4003 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:53 pm: | |
Well...well...well sounds like a episode of the View just sitting around gabbing. |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 19 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.235.189
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:55 pm: | |
You watch the View? |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 128 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:56 pm: | |
I disagree, I think Star Jones brings more to the table than you do. |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 885 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:57 pm: | |
Wow...I was wrong. Detroitstar, you're a complete ass. How dare you feed the homeless...how dare you work for a non-profit that puts teens to work...how dare you! (You have to understand, if I sound like I like you, I think Jelk thinks that means he has to hate you. I could be wrong...this is a very confusing situation we're dealing with. Tread carefully...it's like a minefield. Or...you can do what I usually do...see below) Ha...jelk you are a dim-witted, sorry-puss LOSER! |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1086 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 2:58 pm: | |
Star Jones isn't on the View anymore... Sheesh, shows how much ya'll know 'bout pop culture. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 898 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.101
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:00 pm: | |
I'll tell you where they went. SOYLENT GREEN! |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2016 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:04 pm: | |
Dstar has the guts to actually mingle with the sort of people that so many are afraid of, and in so doing, he/she helps them out; sure Detroitstar didn't give them a job or fix all their problems, and sure church/charity agencies can go a lot further, but damn why pick on Detroitstar? |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4004 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.208.211.59
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:04 pm: | |
Star Jones used to be a man right? Either way I still don't believe Detroitstar does any of the non-profit stuff he/she claims. No one who lives in Detroit, never-the-less works for/with a non-profit engaged in the activities Detroitstar claims to be involved in, has a hard time finding homeless people. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 129 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:11 pm: | |
to: Jelk From: detroitstar www.detroitstar.org As a matter of fact, I'm a full time college student at MSU, I chair/run programs for Detroit STAR, and sit on the board of a similar program in Lansing. Jelk, thanks for the free pub!! |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2018 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:15 pm: | |
Well played, Detroitstar. That's cool website...you should talk to the leaders of the Detroit Project at UM. We ought to collaborate. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1089 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:17 pm: | |
None of your links work... |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 886 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:18 pm: | |
Brian Watkins? Extreme Entrepeneur? Explain... |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 130 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:18 pm: | |
submit some feedback...it goes directly to me, and i'll check it out. |
Corktownmark Member Username: Corktownmark
Post Number: 210 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 141.217.12.135
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:18 pm: | |
Been no decrease in homeless that I can see. Ndavies has a very good point. Giving someone a meal bought at retail price and without providing a place to wash their hands or take a dump makes the giver feel good. But your dollar will go much further at COTS or Capuchin. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 131 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:19 pm: | |
He provided the server space for me, when I was still paying for this project out of pocket. We're currently in the market for a host. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 132 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:21 pm: | |
Susanarosa, the site is young. I recently hired a webmaster who is designing a site. The links will be up as soon as the content for the site is complete. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 825 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:21 pm: | |
dETROITSTAR, You should think about taking a grand or so of that 800K you're wasting of our taxpayer dollars and make a decent website. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 133 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:26 pm: | |
It's on it's way Gambling man. By the way, the 800k is a combination of grants and private donations. Tax deductable donations account for about 15% of that. |
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies
Post Number: 2110 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:27 pm: | |
quote:Well played, Detroitstar. That's cool website...you should talk to the leaders of the Detroit Project at UM. We ought to collaborate.
Well played my ass. All I see is a pretty page without anything behind it. Any idiot could put up a simple page like that with no info behind it. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 134 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:28 pm: | |
I'm going to step back now, because I dont believe this forum should be used for promoting this program, since I'm not paying to advertise or anything. However, I think there is a lesson to be learned in this thread. Some people are blinded by ignorance. To do good it does not take anything more than a simple gesture. I would love to put Jelk on the streets without a meal for a couple of weeks and then see how quickly and greatful he is when I ask him to eat dinner and converse for a while. (Message edited by DetroitSTAR on August 17, 2006) |
Quinn Member Username: Quinn
Post Number: 887 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
Good...because that guy scares me. "born rich...going to make a million $" yada yada yada. Good luck with the website and, take it from me, when people like ndavies, Jelk etal. start yapping...just laugh. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 827 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
Converse? Yeah, I've had plenty of "conversations" with the "homeless" downtown. You are wasting time, effort, and making the situation worse with your good-hearted and misguided conversing. To do any real "good" at all, it takes alot more than a simple gesture.....tell that to any of the men and women out there every day trying to help these people who are organized and well-funded....it isn't easy at all. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 1090 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:35 pm: | |
Great, because all I see is a kid from MSU who thinks he can save the city of Detroit and run back home to his friends in East Lansing and brag about the homelss guys he fed with a 5 dollar sandwich from subway. Face it, you don't work for any existing non-profits and are planning on helping homeless folks in Detroit when...? On the weekends? When there isn't some house party or football or basketball game you just can't miss? |
Milwaukee Member Username: Milwaukee
Post Number: 22 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 69.95.232.178
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:45 pm: | |
He's allowed to try and help the city. The city has way more problems than he himself can solve but he shouldn't be criticized going out there and doing something good. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2023 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:52 pm: | |
Thank you, Mil. Man, where is the sanity among our forumers? Quinn said it right. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 135 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 3:54 pm: | |
Great way to end the convo Susanarosa, you have done a great job of reasserting my point about how some people just dont get it!! BTW, I come to Detroit to work to make the city a better place. Sure I'm here on the weekends to have fun. But I'm also here monday through friday...cleaning up the trash, painting a fence, cutting the grass. I'm tutoring students, rewarding positive lifestyle and making a difference. I dont come to Detroit to be a savior. I'm here because I like the people, the culture, the way of life. If you want, I can ignore Detroit, just like the Oakland County people you guys complain about 24/7. |
K_solomon Member Username: K_solomon
Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 199.178.223.4
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:03 pm: | |
Wow. I can't believe that you guys are attacking the guy for wanting to help the homeless. Give the man a freakin chance. Its obvious his operation is fairly new. And would like to believe he has good intentions. Geesh. |
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72
Post Number: 121 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:04 pm: | |
Jelk, you sound like someone whose conscience is bothered by not doing anything to help the disadvantaged. My hats off to anyone who makes the world a better place. I seem to recall my hero Jesus used to help the hopeless as well. I'm sure people like Jelk mocked him too. Keep up the good work Detroitstar. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 4836 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 198.111.165.50
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:04 pm: | |
Good for you Detroitstar, You're finally contributing to the proletarian cause. ME, The Ghettoman, And the Street Prophets salute you. |
K_solomon Member Username: K_solomon
Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 199.178.223.4
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:04 pm: | |
Detroitstar. I applaud your efforts and good intentions. The city needs more people like you. No matter what these other idiots may say. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2024 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:05 pm: | |
Yup, threads like this usually sicken me and I avoid them, but I got in on this before they started attacking Dstar. |
Rusty Member Username: Rusty
Post Number: 415 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.194.12.179
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:06 pm: | |
......Detroitstar, regardless of the outcome or what the "hens" say, good effort. It was probably the "self promoting" theme/thread that ruffled a few feathers. Armchairing is easy....... |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2026 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.248.5.45
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:10 pm: | |
No he didn't self promote...it took a long time and a lot of irritation for Dstar to post that link. |
Tkshreve Member Username: Tkshreve
Post Number: 4 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 12.32.128.68
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:10 pm: | |
Maybe Winter is to blame for the lower number of Homeless people....? |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 112 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:11 pm: | |
I never even thought of E Jefferson as a good place to look for homeless people. You need to - go out Michigan, Mack, Cass, Second, Third, Look under the freeway bridges at the Lodge/I-75 Interchange, Vernoe, Mc Graw, Fort Street. It is there wehere I find the homeless. E Jefferson is in relatively good shape from IV to City Center. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 136 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:11 pm: | |
Yeah, this thread was in no way intended to "self promote" though reading it again it makes it appear that way. All I was trying to say is that the usual spots where I notice larger numbers of homeless people seemed pretty empty the last few weeks. Sorry it got so off topic...on 2nd thought, no I'm not...I didnt take it there. |
Shark Member Username: Shark
Post Number: 246 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 65.43.35.236
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:18 pm: | |
quote:Maybe Winter is to blame for the lower number of Homeless people....?
Yeah, I bet hundreds of 'em froze to death last night. |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1135 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:21 pm: | |
This is disgusting. No wonder Detroit is in the pathetic position it is in, if this is how people react when someone tries to help the city. detroitstar, email me at nickq9488 at yahoo dot com, if you get a chance |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 828 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 4:27 pm: | |
Detroitstar, maybe all of your counseling has finally paid off? |
Jenniferl Member Username: Jenniferl
Post Number: 319 Registered: 03-2004 Posted From: 12.75.43.165
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 1:10 am: | |
Detroitstar, To answer your original question, there are normally a lot of homeless people in and around the Wayne State University campus. For starters, try the corner of Cass and Warren in front of Marwil's Bookstore. And if you don't see any homeless people in the city of Detroit, go to the Royal Oak Transit Center. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 137 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 67.185.177.235
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 1:21 am: | |
Thanks Jennifer. The truth is, I know where many of the areas where the homeless are. My question was if anyone else noticed there appeared to be a few less in areas where I seemed to notice them in the past. I did notice several on the Wayne State campus Wednesday. I know they are trying to limit their presence on campus, which I have mixed feelings about. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 1293 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:42 am: | |
Many of the homeless I see seem to be talking or yelling at themselves. That's probably why most folks cross to the other side of the street when they're around. |
Jelk
Member Username: Jelk
Post Number: 4007 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.208.115.116
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 1:42 pm: | |
quote:This is disgusting. No wonder Detroit is in the pathetic position it is in, if this is how people react when someone tries to help the city. detroitstar, email me at nickq9488 at yahoo dot com, if you get a chance
Fuck you Brighton. When you and your neighbors tolerate homeless populating your neighborhood park then you can say something about homelessness in Detroit otherwise go play in traffic. |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 608 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 1:51 pm: | |
There cannot be less homeless. George Bush is still in office. Homeless only go away when democrats are in office. |
Stecks77 Member Username: Stecks77
Post Number: 1 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 129.9.163.234
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:16 pm: | |
Yesterday, I was at the corner of Woodward and State headed to the CVS and I noticed a man accross the street who appeared to be homeless lying on the ground suffering a seizure. Compuware security was on the scene as well as some employees who were comforting the guy. Unfortunately it took about approximately 15 minutes for the ambulance to arrive! |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 2035 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.221.36.81
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:20 pm: | |
Those people giving him attention are idiots who don't know a thing about the streets or this city. Damn them. A well organized charity or church organization could have done much more for him. j/k...I hope he was alright and that's nice to know that some strangers did come to his aid. Welcome, Stecks77, btw. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 830 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:33 pm: | |
Mackinaw, you are a complet idiot for thinking that the sandwich and good talking-to that Detroitstar gave him last week forced him into realizing that he should seek help for his seizures. Guess that glorious sandwich just wasn't the panacea he thought it would be. Hell, maybe the over-abundance of mayo on the sandwich formed a fat-embolism that went to his brain and caused the seizure.......The fact is that people who give money or food to the "homeless" they see on the street don't know the first thing about what they really need. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 139 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:42 pm: | |
Gambling Man, tell me...do you know what they really need? And, until you know me, dont assume that I have no idea what they need. I currently employee a former homeless person. Someone who i met on such a venture and "sandwich stop". Dont blame me for actually caring enough to make a difference. Like I said, if you dont think I'm making a difference, I'll personally take you out to visit the 20 former homeless people that I've helped get off the streets. I'll also introduce you to the conditions they would spend their next night in, if I did not offer my support. (Message edited by DetroitSTAR on August 18, 2006) |
Stecks77 Member Username: Stecks77
Post Number: 2 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 129.9.163.234
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:43 pm: | |
I saw him getting wheeled into the ambulance and it looked like the seizure had subsided and he was concious. |
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man
Post Number: 833 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 2:55 pm: | |
I don't pretend to know what they need, Detroitstar, you do. And, while I appreciate your offer, I'm far too busy working and paying taxes so that others can enjoy free group home living, free medical care, free food, free counseling, and while they are at, they are free to deficate and urinate (in broad daylight) on the sidewalk, threaten people for money, and generally do nothing at all to earn their keep in society. All the while it is people like you whose behavior is encouraging them to stay on the street. Can you imagine a society where people are expected to be viable and productive members? I would be willing to bet you can't, as then no one would be entitled to anything, and where would you get all the money for your "charity". |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 141 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 35.8.144.6
| Posted on Friday, August 18, 2006 - 3:01 pm: | |
Yup. I pretend to know what they need. I dont pretend to know. The reason I spend so many hours with them is so I can know straight from them directly what it is that they need. And, as a matter of fact, the only way people get rewarded in my charity is through hard work. By the way, please email me your address. I picked up a couple homeless people last night. We're going to go eat sandwiches and then deficate on your front lawn. It should be a great time. okay. now I'm done. |
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo
Post Number: 721 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 70.196.177.15
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 12:12 am: | |
LOL! This thread is funny... A complete waste of my time, but funny! |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 1141 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 1:45 am: | |
Jelk, you can be the one that fucks yourself. in Brighton, the families in need of assistance through Gleaner's food bank has increased by 54% in the past year. And whether I live in Brighton or not, I have every right to say whatever I want about Detroit's homeless; however I never stated anything about the homeless as you stated. I have also donated to various charities in Detroit that help the homeless, so I am every bit involved in this situation. Your "superior" attitude is the reason that there is such a divide in Detroit....You are a complete asshole, and your asinine ideas are the ones that have plagued the city and region for years. |
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher
Post Number: 446 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 7:36 am: | |
Ok, Detroitstar, I'd like to get my students involved in your non-profit. How do I do that? I've never heard of your organization (most others that help teens send out letters to the Class Sponsors in the high schools). I'm calling you out on this one... I would need to see your vision, mission statement, plan, etc before I can get you in to the school but we have some kids for you. |
Trainman Member Username: Trainman
Post Number: 187 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Saturday, August 19, 2006 - 10:20 pm: | |
When the SMART property tax passed, they all got on a bus and that's where they live. The voters are compassionate and know that the homeless people rely on warm buses in the winter and air-conditioned ones in the summer, so we as the majority voted with our hearts knowing that most of us won't have bus service but know that many of the homeless will have shelter. AND, then there are those of us who voted YES to save SMART. |
Detroitstar Member Username: Detroitstar
Post Number: 144 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 67.185.177.235
| Posted on Sunday, August 20, 2006 - 1:11 pm: | |
Alright teacher, fill out the feedback form on the site, and metion DetroitYes. I'll make sure to get information to you first thing monday. |