  Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2849 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213 |
He's baa-aack.  Enjoy!  Clinton at Michigan Democratic Party kick off in Taylor this PM. Others L-R: Lt. Gov. Cherry, ?, Hoffa Jr., Gov. Granholm, Rep. John Conyers, Da Man hisself, Sen. Stabenow, Rep. John Dingell [seated], Debbie Dingell and I don't know the rest. Picture courtesy of Mrs. Lowell | ||
River_rat Member Username: River_rat Post Number: 204 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.126.177.38 |
So what have all these politicos done to improve the Michigan/Detroit economy? Stop crime? Encourage investments? And why are you so proud to picture them on the forum? | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 754 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139 |
Because he owns the forum, Riverrat. (Good photo by Mrs. L. by the way) | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2850 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213 |
I did it for you rat. ...and its about Detroit. Please don't confuse pride with reporting for the forum. But now that you ask, compare the Clinton years with the Bush years in Michigan and you might get a hunch. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 889 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Can anyone say Hillary 08? And before all of the right wing nutcases start in on her, I just have one question: What do you have against our future president? | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 643 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
no to Hillary 08 | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 938 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 65.54.154.17 |
The Clinton years were great, thanks to the extensive cost cutting and tax cuts of the Regan years, the Bush I foreign policy, and the laissez faire foreign and economic policy of Clinton. Too bad we're paying for his nonchalant attitude now. As I recall, national economic growth began heading down near the end of his second term and, oh yeah, 9/11 was schemed and planned during his tenure. Yes, it happened on Bush II's watch, but eight years of hands off foriegn policy sure gave rogues a solid head start (i.e. the Taliban, who flourished without concern during the 1990's). | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1835 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.228.57.79 |
Yes, the record deficits are all Clinton's fault. That's why so many Republicans support W's drunken spending! Please, where'd you get that propaganda from 1953, Rush Limbaugh? | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1997 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 75.10.25.111 |
How many elections will the Democrats recycle Bill, Hillary, and Al for? Will one of them still be running or campaigning for someone in 2016? We can't live in the 90s forever. This world demands something different. And did anyone notice that the deficit is now shrinking? I believe we shed over 20% of it last year, even with a lack of fiscal restraint on the administration's part. Laffer Curve in your face. | ||
Skipp Member Username: Skipp Post Number: 85 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.43.105.124 |
Why does the middle east dislike bush more than clinton? It seemed like if bush didn't win the presedenticy, there would be less tension in the wourld. | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 1135 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Yes to Chitaku in '08! And the Karmic Cafe! | ||
Udalum Member Username: Udalum Post Number: 9 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 209.180.252.183 |
Mackinaw is right - tax receipts are on the up and up, showing that the tax cuts are working. Now if we can only walk further on the supply side. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 937 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Huh!? It doesn't matter who's in the White House the ragheads will hate whoever sits in that seat of power! The reason they liked Clinton more is because he was concentrating more on blow jobs and less on Middle East Islamofacists. Not that there's anything wrong with blow jobs but there's a time and place for everything! Clinton sent our troops to Somalia on a peace mission. So, what does he do? He changes the whole complexion of the mission and tries to grab Muhammed Farrah Aidid without providing our troops with the proper armor and armament to make a clean snatch. "Black Hawk Down" was bad enough but if it wouldn't have been for the Pakistanis and their armor we would have had hundreds of more body bags. Bill was good for the economy, kind of, sort of but he didn’t have a clue about national defense. Personally, I don’t think there is a person we can put into that job that can do what needs to be done because of all the political considerations that go along with the job. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – democracy is messy and the people that elect these edits don’t know whether to wind their ass or scratch their watch. I agree with Aristotle! Livedog2 | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 2322 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.29.74 |
"eight years of hands off foriegn policy sure gave rogues a solid head start (i.e. the Taliban, who flourished without concern during the 1990's" Here's to the 1980's, when our dear leader sent money and guns to Islamist Fundamentalists in Afhganistan, and called them "freedom fighters". (The Russians called them "Insurgents" or "Bandits" or "Terrorists". Do those terms sound slightly familar?) Here's to the 1980's, when our dear leader funded death squads in Central America! How does one say "Saddam Hussein" in Spanish"? Try: Efrain Rios Mont But I'll tip my glass to the 1990's, when gang activity decreased because people had jobs to go to, and when the guys who bombed things on our soil were actually caught and convicted. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1269 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
Clinton took advantage of the "Peace Dividend" made possible by Reagan and Bush after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. As a result, the US military wasn't supported as it was, and that was probably a good thing. There's little use in overspending. The US was the clear world leader in IT back then, which was gradually frittered away during the Clintonian era. But that wasn't Clinton's fault either. The rest of the world simply caught up to us. It was inevitable, considering the sorry state of our education system. Today and during the 1990s, we imported much of our engineering and IT from countries that graduate several times as many engineers and scientists as does the US. | ||
Mike Member Username: Mike Post Number: 722 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.93.235 |
i never really cared for clinton at the time (i was still a teen) I always viewed him a lucky guy> he is given too much credit for the economy of the 90s. think about it, he entered the 90s when the creation of a new economy (interent and PCs) was in full swing. he left at the end of the "interent era" saying that, seeing the way and how quickly things turned to shit the past six years, i appreciate clinton much more. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 891 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
Ah yes the 1980s. Let's see what history's scrapbook has leftover from that decade.  | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1827 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.63.178 |
Careful, 1953, some folks around here might think you actually meant that as a serious comment instead of sarcasm. http://zfacts.com/p/318.html (Message edited by fnemecek on August 16, 2006) | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 939 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Saddam Hussein was the only one that could keep those animals in Iraq in line. Livedog2 | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1753 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.209.179.156 |
Hey, doesn't that logo of the Michigan Democratic Party kick ass? | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2640 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.48 |
I see our "Dean of Congress" John Dingell is sitting down with a cane. At his 50th year in the House celebration last December he sorta talked out of one side of his mouth. Not sure if he actually had a minor stroke, or if he had that facial paralysis type of affliction on one side of his face that my father had. It makes one look like they had a stroke. | ||
Philbert Member Username: Philbert Post Number: 220 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.23.99.128 |
Hey how about Bush. No WMD in Iraq, no links to 9/11, and no links to Al Qaeda. What a joke, so far, 300 billion dollars later, 100,000 dead Iraqi's, thousands of dead American soldiers, and a country on the brink of civil war thanks to America. The whole world hates us. Is the whole world wrong and a few right wing Americans right? Give me a break. I'll take Clinton any day over Bush. Bush to me is a person who runs campaigns on hatred of homesexuals - as a gay person it sure seems that way. I'd love to go foward in civilization back in time to Clinton. | ||
Mtm Member Username: Mtm Post Number: 40 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 134.67.6.11 |
The unidentified man between Lt. Gov. Cherry and Hoffa Jr. is Dan Mulhern, First Gentleman. (Great picture, Mrs. L! Wish I was there!) Also, John Dingell always talks slightly out of the side of his mouth. I believe he recently had hip surgery, hence the cane. Possibly replaced the metal plate that got him strip-searched at Metro a few years back? | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 219 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.138 |
Hillary won't win the Dem primary in '08...there are at least two Dems that would beat her out for the nomination, particularly Mark Warner (remember that name kids). Kinda sucks seeing Clinton looking so old...love to hear that man speak though...very refreshing , especially after having to listen to the bumbling fool who's in office now embarrass us all by constantly tripping over his own words. | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 592 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108 |
I wonder who he has under the podium? | ||
Rossco Member Username: Rossco Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 136.181.195.25 |
Heh heh..Right Wing, Left Wing, Republican, Democrat. | ||
Gogo Member Username: Gogo Post Number: 1374 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24 |
Rat - What has the otherside done to stop crime? Do you think crime is a unique phenomenon in Detroit and its liberal government only? Murder Up 4.8%, Largest Increase in 15 years; Crime Overall Upp 2.5% Despite the national numbers, Detroit, Los Angeles and New York were among several large cities that saw the number of murders drop. City looks for crime-fighting funds as federal dollars shrink The Bush Administration substantially cut the COPS program by 86 percent last year. | ||
Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 261 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152 |
Yah - I guess if Bill would have had a son, he could have ran. | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 2331 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.29.74 |
Chelsea in '12 maybe, but Hillary? no thanks. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2106 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Lowell I know you started this thread but can you please move it to the political bickering super thread. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 220 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43 |
Chelsea isn't elligible to run until 2018 | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 940 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
This is code for hey look at me -- I'm gay and I'm available! We got it!! Livedog2 | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 1137 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 216.223.168.132 |
Philbert, how was your life any different under the Clinton administration? | ||
Philbert Member Username: Philbert Post Number: 221 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.23.99.128 |
You are an a grown adult taking personal stabs at me. Wow. Thanks a lot. | ||
Philbert Member Username: Philbert Post Number: 222 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.23.99.128 |
Hysteria, there was hope. Nothing like turning on the news and hearing Bush and his fellow Republicans quoting the bible and gays all the time. | ||
Hysteria Member Username: Hysteria Post Number: 1138 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 216.223.168.132 |
For what were you hoping? | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 939 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146 |
The beauty of politics is that there are so many indicators of success or failure, both sides can claim victory. | ||
Vas Member Username: Vas Post Number: 594 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 70.237.164.67 |
nice! | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1278 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
"Nothing like turning on the news and hearing Bush and his fellow Republicans quoting the bible and gays all the time." I seem to remember the Clintons pretending they got religion during those bad times (meaning, those priceless Monica moments that led to Bill's impeacement and disbarring as an attorney by an Arkansas judge). Rodham even said during that phony "made-for-TV" broadcast of hers where she said she got down on her knees and prayed for guidance during the Lewinsky affair. Hah! She's about as secular, agnostic, or atheist as they come. Ditto for William Jefferson. BTW, Rodham's office by the stairs to the second floor in the White House was strategically located so as she HAD to know EVERYTHING what was going on there at any time when she was around. She could never get away with saying "I know NO-THING" ala Sgt. Schultz. (Message edited by LivernoisYard on August 16, 2006) | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1841 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
Livernoisyard, how do you know Hillary is not a devout Christian and/or that she didn't get down on her knees? How do you know that Bill isn't either? I've seen just as many Christian and un-Christian things from W as I have from Bill and Hillary. I don't think any of us can judge either of them. P.S. You might want to get that plank out of your eye before you mention Bill & Hillary's speck. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 1280 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
Rodham bilked hundreds of school teachers out of their money with her crooked real-estate scams before hitting DC. Trust me! She's not religious at all. But hey! You go on believing in the Easter Bunny and whatever else you put your faith and trust in. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1843 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
I wouldn't go outside any time soon LY. Lightning has been known to strike even when the sky is clear. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 948 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
And, I suppose the democRATS have been better than the republicans? What I say is pick your poison because you're going to get a good dose of it whoever's in the White House. Politicians are so out of step with the public that it isn't even funny anymore. It's up to the citizenry to take back the reins of power from this parade of idiots to the White House. But, don’t hold your breath, based on results – look at the Bush and Clinton and you can see the kind of people that elect presidents. Livedog2 | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 221 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43 |
Livernoisyard: Are you refering to those trying times when Bill's approval rating was near an all time high and the Republican congress's rating was in the shitter? Yeah, they (the Clinton's) really needed all the help they could get. ::rolling eyes:: http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS /stories/1998/12/20/impeachmen t.poll/ | ||
Digitaldom Member Username: Digitaldom Post Number: 467 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 69.220.232.235 |
IS this in the wrong forum? I thought this was the Detroit Forum.. Sorry to threadjack.. but it's true.. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 105 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
quote: Rodham bilked hundreds of school teachers out of their money with her crooked real-estate scams before hitting DC. Trust me! She's not religious at all. ______________________________ ___________________ Livernoisyard, I suppose you belive yor hero Georgie is a good Christian even though he sent all our troops to die in Iraq knowing that there was no credible evidence of WMDs. I know, he says he is a Christan, and politicians never lie right? I seem to remember the right's poster boy from the Clinton years Newt has had some un-Christian like behavoir since he left the lime light. Your boy Bush was close to Tom Delay who certainly has proved he is NOT the wholesome Christian he portrayed. It seems the more politicians tell people how religious they are, its code for "I'm about as un-Christian as a stone. Stop drinking the kool-aid from the likes of the drug-addicts like Rush and don't label anyone who you may not like as being un-Christian, un- patriotic, and pro terrorist. | ||
Philbert Member Username: Philbert Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.23.105.58 |
Livernoisyard, at least Clinton didn't use religion against me. Unfortunetly I see the Republican party using hate or mocking of gays, a scapegoat in a way, to gain support of the American public. Hysteria, For what was I hoping? More tolerance and less hate especially considering I didn't chose this. | ||
Rbdetsport Member Username: Rbdetsport Post Number: 150 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 68.61.11.146 |
There are two people in this world. Republicans, and people who wish they were republican. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 962 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Rbdetsport, you need to stay away from those left-handed cigarettes! Livedog2 | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 646 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
thanks Hysteria! I can see Chitaku in '20, but until then karmic cafe for me! | ||
River_rat Member Username: River_rat Post Number: 205 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.126.177.38 |
Rat returns; river rat that is. My comment on this thread is that the people in the picture have as much to do with the economic decline of our area as anyone. I never implied or inferred that the current political powers (aka Republicans)have been or are any better. Both parties take their political base (aka voters) for granted and both have little to offer but their own self motivated goals. This country needs real independents with independent thought and a reversal of the two-party system. Do you remember a guy with big ears, H. Ross Perrot, who told you to listen for the big sucking sound of NAFTA and the World (unfair) Trade Organization taking your jobs away. What do you think of his ideas now? I would think many of you dismissed him because he wasn't a donkey (ass) or an elephant. So here is Lowell, plugging the same old, same old. This year let's turn the status quo out and replace the self-serving and entreched politicians. They all answer to the same drum ---the party. I may not agree with Joe Leiberman, but look what happened to him when he bucked the system. Let's get brave and get new thinkers in the legislative and executive business. the river rat | ||
Digitaldom Member Username: Digitaldom Post Number: 495 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 24.192.148.150 |
Well hopefully Devos will do better for michigan.. We can't blame Washington for the lack of jobs in Michigan.. For one simple fact.. Other areas in the Midwest are seeing much less unemployment that we are.. We can blame some of it to the Auto industry.. But we can not blame them for everything or Washington for our blight.. We need to look to our of government... And BTW why is it that Detroit BLINDLY accepts all Democratic hopefuls? I really don't understand that? Bush did say one good thing when he was here campaigning.. What have the Demos done for you? In my opinion besides DEMOing detroit? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4164 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
If we're going to look at state government, then we should probably look who's been in control of most of Michigan government for some 20-30 years now...Republicans, more than anyone else, shouldn't want to look back at home, if you know what I mean. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1757 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.208.113.97 |
Digitaldom, Detroit can't forget 12 years of Engler. Maybe you were too young to remember, but those of us who lived through those Engler years as adults do. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 226 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43 |
Royce: What was so unforgetable about Engler? I am too young to remember as well. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1759 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.208.113.97 |
He cut a lot of funding to Detroit. His most notorious act was to dismantle the mental health system here in Michigan in order to cut spending. As a result, many local governments, especially Detroit, had to bare the burden of dealing with a larger homeless population, many of whom were former mental patients. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10487 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.228 |
I'll take this one. Clinton years No Campus Martius No Ford Field No permenant casinos No Riverwalk No Jefferson Village (though the failed Graymark or whatever was on his watch) No Compuware No $500 million RenCen renovation No North Corktown No Woodbridge Estates No Merchants Row No Woodward Lofts No Book Cadillac deal (though Hudsons was torn down on his watch and the DPM track destroyed) Did I miss anything? hahaha | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2649 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.72.73 |
Don't laugh too quickly Sport... Let's see... Dubya took office Jan. 20, 2001... Clinton Years... $42 million Detroit Opera House... Comerica Park... Gem/Century Theatres... Ford Field (planned, financed, designed and still under construction)... Campus Martius Park (planned and designed)... Compuware (announced, planned and designed)... Casinos came to Detroit (temporaries built, permanents planned with bumps in the road)... Rencen purchased by GM ($500 million renovation planned)... Lofts at Rivertown... Expansion of Stroh's Riverplace... Comerica Tower completed... Cobo Expansion completed... 3rd Tower at Riverfront West... Karmanos Cancer Center (announced and planned)... Wayne State Expansion (new admin building, residential towers)... Science Center Expansion (planned and financed)... (Message edited by Gistok on August 17, 2006) | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 875 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Jeezz...you make a good point. Weren't those also the Archer/Hendrix years, who, if I'm not mistaken, were democrats and had direct control of these events? Ha ha ha indeed. Ahem. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 229 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 24.169.224.43 |
Supersport and Gistok: I can't tell if you guys are just kidding around or what, but the executive of the federal government has very little, if anything, to do with local development and the local economy. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 876 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
I'd agree with you TheJesus, local leadership is key to local change. However I would believe that the realtionship between local and federal leadership is important. There are federal dollars to be issued. It seems to me that ARCHER should have had a hotline to Clinton. #1...both dems...#2 Clinton could use Archer's support locally to win in an election and therefore might be #3 inclined to be generous with federal dollars towards our locality. If anything...and we should all be able to agree on this, Kwame has a direct hotline to Bush's b--hole and that's it. The more I think about the Archer years the more and more I get pissed that more wasn't done. And, conversely, the more I'm impressed with what Kwame has done (especially since the election). (Come on...if I don't get a laugh about the b--hole comment we're all taking ourselves way to seriously. Give it up.) | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2650 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.72.73 |
Quinn, I think that during the Archer years most developers were still sitting on the fence, they were still waiting for "the momentum" as we call it. IMHO CAY's big "corporate plum" was Little Caesar's. Archer's big corporate plum was Compuware. Here's hoping that KK delivers Quicken as his big corporate plum... | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 968 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Since you were so happy to honor "A Special Treat for My Right Wing Friends.", I thought I would return the favor and provide you with the flag that encapsulates your belief system to a T. And, the special treat is that I found one with “your hero” on it so it’s a doubly special treat. Touché! How does that work? Turnaround is fair play!  Livedog2 | ||
Oliverdouglas Member Username: Oliverdouglas Post Number: 39 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.215.242.247 |
That's not turnaround (it's turnabout, by the way)- that's just stupid. | ||
Ordinary Member Username: Ordinary Post Number: 37 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 63.77.247.130 |
Royce, When I get my property tax bills, I remember Engler fondly. I know it's selfish but my property taxes were almost cut in half after Proposal A passed. Lowell, you're having fun with this aren't you? You just drop in the picture and a few words and then sit back and watch the fun! | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2874 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.69.190 |
Quinn once again with a lack of credibility...making disingenuous claims of concern about the record of Archer/Hendrix and praising the record of Kilpatrick, after previously making personal attacks (w/bogus stories and name-calling) on the former two, and over-the-top political support of the latter. And Quinn once again with some kind of weirdo (homo)sexual reference. The last two clubs in the bag once again. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 888 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Sweet...afternoon snack! | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 85 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Dangerously Incompetent Debbie has to go. She is one of the most arrogant two faced political figures I have ever had the misfortune of dealing with. It's not Debbie, it's "The Senator" and don't you dare use any other way of speaking to her | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4169 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
God Bless Mike Bouchard! He'll keep us safe and return good, Christian family values to Michigan! | ||
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia Post Number: 602 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.227.219.108 |
You're right LMich! Welcome to the party. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1761 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.208.113.97 |
Lmichigan, you were being sarcastic, right? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4170 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Sarcastic as all Hell. I'm not much a fan of Debbie (especially compared to Levin). Most recently she went and voted for the frivilous flag burning amendment which went down in flames (pun intended). That's just one quite a few things I don't like about her. But I'll be damned if we give another victory to another Neo-Con, the worst of all conservatives. Fortunately, that doesn't look like it's going to happen. | ||
Digitaldom Member Username: Digitaldom Post Number: 499 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 24.192.148.150 |
Actually I do remember the engler years.. I am not as young as you believe.. Though I will point out didn't the Fox Theatre renovation happen during the Engler years? | ||
Alexei289 Member Username: Alexei289 Post Number: 1213 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.183.223 |
Interesting that as soon as granholm took office, i made almost 50% less money. Dont get me wrong, i agree 100% in the bush/clinton arguement.. I look less at political party than i do at ability to run their respective office... bush got in because his daddy was president, and granholm got in because she isnt 900lbs.. both of them couldnt run a shit farm. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 136 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
Jen is still beter than Dick. Can anyone tell me what does he bring to the table? I'll not say the amway jokes, but what is his PLAN FOR MICHIGAN? Better to vote for the lesser of 2 evils... BTW... to all the kool-aid drinking rush ditto heads... remember who has controlled both chambers of MI's govt. the last decade or so. The truth hurts, to all the Blind Repubicans or should I say Republicrates of Mich. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 982 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Is that "the lesser of 2 evils" or weevils? Livedog2 | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 86 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Fortunately Dangerous Debbie is already in trouble in the polls, only a four point lead out of the primaries and it's only a matter of time until the billboards of her posing next to the "Dangerously Incompetent" sign go up. If Michigan is going to get fixed the first step is getting rid on a useless Senator. A Senator that has done absolutely nothing for 5 1/2 years. | ||
Royce Member Username: Royce Post Number: 1764 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.208.113.97 |
Angry_dad, if congress is dominated by republicans and we have a republican president, then how much do you really expect a democratic senator to get accomplished when outnumbered by the other party? | ||
Compn Member Username: Compn Post Number: 71 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 65.29.121.215 |
if devoss had a plan, he'd be on tv saying 'i'm working hard, and contacting hyundai, kia, audi and other auto companies to build cars here in michigan. whether or not i'm elected, i'm already talking to them. what is granholm doing?' but he aint got shit. who was it that tried to get a 365 day school year? engler? i remember when that hit the fan.... |
