  Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 913 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.171.216 |
http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/9637921/detail.html Puts a hole in the "unwritten rule" theory. | ||
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman Post Number: 96 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.75.220.9 |
That's scary stuff that will legitmately scare people away from Detroit, unfortunately. | ||
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man Post Number: 53 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 69.221.80.238 |
It could happen any where, not just Detroit. Look at what just happened in Phoenix with the serial snipers. Scary. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 26 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 198.30.81.2 |
Don't forget DC, Ohio, etc... You Detroiters sure are some "boo-hooing" bastards! | ||
Wazootyman Member Username: Wazootyman Post Number: 97 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.75.220.9 |
Oh, well, sorry. It's okay then. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 28 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 198.30.81.2 |
Not that it's ok. Just the "Apocolyptic attitude" of Detroiters whenever the slightest ripple occurs is not ok. One thing to remember, most people DO NOT believe they will ever be a victim of random acts of violence. This attitude alone of being invincible will cause people to still come to Detroit for whatever reason. One thing about Americans, we are some arrogant pricks! | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8684 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
Wash_man, it happend here a hell of a lot more than in Phoenix. Quit making excuses and realise that Detroit is one of the leaders in murders and shootings in the North America. The blame squarely lies on the shoulders of the administration from the Mayor to the CC to the DPD, DPS and through to the parents and families that reside in Detroit. Unless the city as a collective whole does something, this isn't going to change and Detroit will continue to fall apart where it can't afford to...in the neighbourhoods. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4089 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
How do you know random murders happens more in Detroit than in Phoenix? Give me some stats. I'd love to see it. Really. (Message edited by lmichigan on August 07, 2006) | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 867 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.242.215.8 |
It all sounds very "Collateral" | ||
Chub Member Username: Chub Post Number: 357 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.28.200 |
I agree with Goat 100%. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 29 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 198.30.81.2 |
Chub, do you agree 100% with Goat's haircut, too? (Message edited by Firefly on August 07, 2006) | ||
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man Post Number: 54 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 69.221.80.238 |
My point was the randomness can occur anywhere. I disagree that it happens more in Detroit. I happen to notice that nearly every murder victim in the city (nearly-not all) know their attacker. I don't have time right now to look up the stats, but that surely seems to be the trend. Therefore, the random attacks don't seem that prevelant. I try to explain this to my friends as I am talking up the city and once they realize this, they feel safer in Detroit. I agree that the Police could do more to get rid of the events that precipitate violence like drugs, prostitution and illegal after hours clubs. That's a whole other topic...like why the fireworks shooter has never been caught or the person who shot the young lady downtown the night before the Super Bowl. That one really baffles me. Network after network demonstrated how every person on every street downtown that weekend was on camera, yet Ella has yet to produce a suspect. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8688 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
Firefly, Better than the "haircut" you give your to your twinks. But then again typical of an idiot who can't speak (is it because of your dog's jizz in your mouth)what he needs to say nor can refute the argument at hand. Instead you throw out stupid remarks. I guess your post shows your IQ. Go back to you-know-where as I am sure that is the rock you crawled out from. Big man on the internet, you coward. I tell you what, anytime you are man enough to say stupid crap like that to my face I will give you props. Until then, continue to be the big man on the 'net you little stick of a man. Lmichigan, you are right. Detroit is a wonderful utopia without problems or violence. I don't need to show stats when Detroit ranks at or near the top of murders and shootings each and every year. How many innocent people are hit by gunfire in Detroit each year? I would love to see that stat! Keep offering excuses for the inmates running the asylum. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 30 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 198.30.81.2 |
Don't worry about it. I was just trying to make the HFD Half-Way Decent Post Du Jour. I succeeded because of that photo you posted way back when. Thanks a lot for the bad haircut! | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8689 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
Your welcome. I am sure you cuff it frequently to the picture. Enjoy. | ||
Kiplinger Member Username: Kiplinger Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 208.44.60.32 |
Goat - Clearly this could have happened anywhere. It's unfortunate it happened in Detroit but I guess I don't know what the police, mayor, or anyone other than the shooter for that matter can do to stop a crazy person. Perhaps you've got some ideas that the police can try. I agree they need to stop things that cause violence but a random act is just that. Random... | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4092 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Goat, thanks for putting words in my mouth. Geeze. I simply asked you to prove that there are more random murders in Detroit than in Phoenix, with emphasis on the word "random" since you don't seem to understand what I'm getting at. Have you ever been to Phoenix? (Message edited by lmichigan on August 07, 2006) | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 915 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.171.216 |
This story is some legitimate scary shit. During this very violent year in the city, this is by far the most disconcerting violence...random and unprovoked. It nearly went unreported in the media and we are more interested in ground floor retail and eats in Eastern market. Can't feel the heat, coming off the street. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10438 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
So, one instance of somebody randomly taking people out, and that is of major concern? Sorry, I'm not sweating....wondering if the people concerned even live here and if they really believe their few hour visits in some way puts them in more jeopardy than those who live here...who for the most part, aren't scared either. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 38 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
"Sorry, I'm not sweating...." Uhhhh..two dobies, a glock, and courage juice...err, I mean beer? Hell, if I had all that working in my favor I wouldn't be scared of shit either. | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 916 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.171.216 |
Sweat only when you see another ground floor retail thread, or best place to eat downtown thread. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10439 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Eastside, you sound like a REAL Detroit, I feel ya man. Firefly, Excuse me, but I walked the streets at 3 am long before I had a couple Dobes or a Glock, neither of which I take with me when I'm out that late even now. Just a week or two ago I walked home after the bar, once again after closing time, yet I was neither messed with or scared. Go Figure | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 41 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
I know. I read it on your blog already. BTW, did you approve my two comments? | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 42 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Oh yeah, starting a comment with a phrase such as "Excuse me" sounds so gay. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10440 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Wow, another fan/critic, how cool you must feel. Have you cut and pasted your comments on Hot Fudge Detroit yet to receive your initiation circle jerk and smack on the ass? LMAO (I'm taking wagers on how long this guy lasts, I say 200 posts tops, any takers?) | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 359 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Someone's giving away smacks on the ass? Is that a bad thing?? | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 43 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
So is this the point you bring me to Lowell's and Andrew's attention and begin the process of banning me? BTW, I'm not cheap. I'm already up to $20 for bl_wj_bs. | ||
Firefly Member Username: Firefly Post Number: 44 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
If anybody knows anything about Supersport and wagers, I wouldn't bite. He's a cheap S.O.B. that won't pay up. What was that bet you made with Andy? Did you ever pay him? | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 909 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
wow. i come from a community where no reputable person would make such a statement in public. thanks, detroitteacher. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 361 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Anything to lighten this thread. | ||
Themax Member Username: Themax Post Number: 193 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 69.246.123.118 |
I know someone who was show while driving his car down Springwells. He didn't take it personally which was pretty magnanimous considering he had to be opened up stem to stern to find the bullet which missed his spine by less than an inch. He figured it was a to-whom-it-may-concern shot from some drug house in the area. Does anybody know where Detroit stands nationally in drug use? In the late '80's I remember hearing that Detroit was second in the nation for IV drug use. I hope we have gone down the list since then. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8690 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
LMichigan, yes I have been to Phoenix. Nice place, very clean and orderly but a tad sprawling (what city isn't anymore). Because Phoneix had a person shooting at random hardly speaks of a growing problem. Whereas Detroit with predictions of 400 murders this year and 700 shootings may have a bit more problems with random shots being fired than a city such as Phoenix. Could random shootings be classified in the same category as carjackings or muggings even though the victim has given up his/her possessions was still shot anyway? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4102 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
Then you've been to the wrong Phoenix, because, though still larger than Detroit with less murders, 200+ murder a year is still not a walk in the park, nor are the 2 serial killers they are still looking for as of late (well, 1 now since they've supposedly caught one of them). My point was the word "random," and I want you to prove that there are more random shootings in Detroit than in Phoenix. I don't think you're getting me. My point is don't make baseless claims, and don't expect to be called on them. When you see "murder" or "crime" you see nothing but read, and you've lost all credibility with me on these subjects, as you put on blinders, and they really prevent you from putting things into proper perspective. (Message edited by lmichigan on August 08, 2006) | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1692 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.126.102 |
Lmich your argument is transparent and irellevant.Who cares? The fact the undeniable, overwhelming, ugly fact is that Detroit has a population that shoots each other...... a lot. To challenge Goat or anyone else to prove that Detroit has more random shootings and then chastise them for making baseless claims does nothing, not one goddamn thing to mitigate the horrible situation in Detroit. No one (here) has defined random shootings.But Goat 's mention of car jackings and I would add drive by shootings where houses are shot up certainly could be called random shootings. But regardless Detroit has a problem and this same old tired crap of bringing other cities into the discussion to somehow lessen the devastation in Detroit is as I said transparent. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4106 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
My only point was that there are better places to actually discuss Detroit's crime problems than in a thread about random murders. I don't excuse murder, period, but don't try and peddle sh%t and don't expect to get called on it. You can sensationalize and blow out of proportion what you see as a huge problem of random crime all you want (though no one seems to have any stats to back it up). You better believe someone's going to call you to account. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8696 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
As I stated Lmichigan, are carjackings, muggings and houses shot up considered random shootings? If so, I would say Detroit would be worse than Phoenix. I don't have the stats to back that claim up but with a city of of around 850,000 peole and the amount of shootings this year; The correlation is certainly there. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4742 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Yep! There's a ghettohood sniper on the loose. And it's hitting the folks along Vernor and Springwells area. Vengence is a dish, best served cold. | ||
Skamour14 Member Username: Skamour14 Post Number: 83 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.11.150.37 |
Danny how do you know these things? Are you hanging out past your bedtime again??? | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4129 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.177.81.18 |
How is the correlation there, Goat? We must be defining "random" differently. | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 4789 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
The Springwells Sniper is out again. It loves to shoot people when it get's mad at society. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 384 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Danny, you sound like it's you! Seems to be you have a bit too much info on this person's motives... | ||
Ron Member Username: Ron Post Number: 268 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 66.174.79.233 |
Interesting article on Phoenix' troubles in todays Wash. Post. They specifically mention Detroit twice, I believe. http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08 /13/AR2006081300695.html | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 719 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 70.248.187.163 |
Once. and specifically about the declining tax base vs. crime. But I have to say, not a nice article about Phoenix... I had no idea their problems were so bad. | ||
K_solomon Member Username: K_solomon Post Number: 22 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 199.178.223.4 |
Nice shoutout to Detroit in the article. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8705 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.69.58 |
LMichigan. Is a carjacking random? Yes. Is mugging someone random? Yes. Is gunfire that was supposed to hit it's intended target but instead kills a child random? Yes, I believe it could be considered random. Someone shooting for the sake of shooting is random (much like New Year's)? Of course! |
