  Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 49 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
Anyone know of any successful exploration done of Tiger Stadium recently? I was looking around on youtube.com for some Tiger Stadium-related material, and found this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Rc gatwSTJo After seeing the video, I checked out the web site for WideOpenDetroit, the name of the youtube user, and found that they had succeeded in gaining entry into the Stadium and taking some pictures. The pictures all have their logo on them, but check them out. Some are on the page now, www.wideopendetroit.com. There are also some in the archives of their site: http://www.wideopendetroit.com /2006_06_18_wideopendetroit_ar chive.html http://www.wideopendetroit.com /2006_06_25_wideopendetroit_ar chive.html http://www.wideopendetroit.com /2006_07_02_wideopendetroit_ar chive.html I know many people who read this board are against saving the ballpark, but I'm not one of them. I have a feeling if others who support preservation or who are on the fence could see the photos of the condition it might stir up some old memories and help mobilize any efforts that could halt/prevent demolition of the ballpark. Whatever your stance is on the park and whether it should stay or go, it's still worth a look. Amazing that they were able to get inside. Not sure how, but it looks like they had free run of the whole place. Wish I could've been there. Enjoy. (Message edited by tigersfan9 on August 02, 2006) | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 893 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.117.234 |
MAN, they need some basic CSS skillz on their site - BAD.. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 654 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.42.23.2 |
They are using a blog template...great shots though. | ||
Detroitej72 Member Username: Detroitej72 Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 66.184.3.44 |
Shots, good Template, bad Comments on pics, bad Just my 2 cents worth. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 50 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
I didn't think the comments would be on the artistic quality of the blog or the template. I figured they'd be more about the fact people got into the park, since this is the first I've heard of anyone "breaking in." | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 613 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
anyone notice the link to the Duly's myspace!!!!!!!!!! | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 895 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.117.234 |
Ah - I see, it works in IE on a PC, but goes whack in Netscape or Firefox etc. Yeah, thats cool that they got in TS. As far as being suprised at seemigly offtopic comments, welcome to the Forum ! | ||
Xd_brklyn Member Username: Xd_brklyn Post Number: 169 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.88.89.94 |
$400K a year to maintain the place and all Ilitch could do was plant some trees in the old park, and he didn't even get that right. | ||
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick Post Number: 370 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.55.51 |
Tip the guard $50 and you're in. | ||
Ordinary Member Username: Ordinary Post Number: 24 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.79.114.155 |
That video was pure crap. They should learn how to use a camera. Boring! | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 23 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
Actually, that video was pure crap because they had no business in the stadium. This is exactly how we end up with urban decay. Isn't it bad enough that sits neglected. Why do people feel like they have to go in and start touching and vandilizing. Why don't you go do it in your suburban neighborhood and leave Detroit alone. The city has suffered enough. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5003 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
We've got the "moral high ground" argument now. So, do you know for sure that all urban explorers are suburbanites? Do all destroy? Do all "touch and vandalize"? Yes, some do. But viewing these images and the awful video (quality, not activity), I'm not convinced these people are doing either. And I dare you to make the argument that the stadium looks the way it does because of urban exploration. Standing exposed to the elements for almost 7 years with no maintainence is not to blame for peeling paint and rust and trees growing in the concrete? Sheesh. Those damn urban explorers sure have a lot of time on their hands. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 667 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194 |
Why did you spraypaint your URL on the wall of the Whitney (on the roof)? | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 51 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
Wideopendetroit--keep the videos and photos coming. I think it's great you got in. I know it may not be in the real spirit of urban exploration...but imagine if you could share your insight into how you got in and plan a mass protest inside the Stadium, if there's enough interest. People who want to save the ballpark could actually be inside of it, calling attention to its current state and lack of adequate maintenance and security. I think what you're doing is great. Keep it up. | ||
Hockey_player Member Username: Hockey_player Post Number: 230 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.18.137 |
By that logic, why not smash out all the windows because "nobody else did." Why not drop bricks on passersby because "nobody else did." | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7649 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
So you won't mind if I tag the roof of your house or car. Feel free to post your address so I can make a judgement call on what I can and can't tag. Assholes. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 52 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
I don't know anything about the Whitney and wideopendetroit. The point of this post was to focus on Tiger Stadium, the fact that they were able to get inside, and the implications that may have in any attempts to get attention back to the Stadium issue and attempts to preserve it. Any thoughts on that? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7650 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
I can't imagine it is hard to get into since the security guards don't really care. I doubt it has any implication on preserving it as the plans already seem to be in motion. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 54 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
I'm just surprised...I hadn't heard of anyone else getting in. Maybe it's easy and the folks from wideopendetroit were the first ones bold enough to try. Heard of any other successes in getting in recently? | ||
Ed_golick Member Username: Ed_golick Post Number: 374 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.55.51 |
Like I said, a 50 gets you in. | ||
Funkycarrie Member Username: Funkycarrie Post Number: 341 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 69.209.159.249 |
I highly doubt these guys are the first to get into the Stadium. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 172 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.141.144.2 |
tigersfan, this is not talk endorsed by this forum. email me @ andylinn (at) gmail (dot) com | ||
Alsodave Member Username: Alsodave Post Number: 744 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.221.73.69 |
Is "Google Search Boy" copyrighted? If not, I'd like to use it as an insult. If it is copyrighted, I'll just horribly spray paint it somewhere. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7659 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
I actually use Yahoo so I guess I would be more of a "Yahoo Search Boy". If you are going to tag my home at least use the correct search engine. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1773 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Then you should probably use it.
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Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2077 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
JT1 what is your e-mail address? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7666 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
jt1_detroit@yahoo.com I have been getting seom strange mailings so I assume that someone has been using my e-mail to sign up for some weird stuff. Hopefully, you'll be gentle with me e-mail. | ||
Wideopendetroit Member Username: Wideopendetroit Post Number: 5 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.41.5.120 |
ive removed all of my careless posts, and would like to start over. i apologize for using spelling errors to point out spelling errors. id like to start over and ask for forgiveess, and yes you can use the google search boy comment. but thanks for asking | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7669 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
I think you could spend more time here correcting bad spelling and grammar than a grade school teacher spends doing that stuff. I'll also make an attempt to be a bit more respectful. | ||
Wideopendetroit Member Username: Wideopendetroit Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.41.5.120 |
ITS BEEN NICE EMAILING BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU JT. ALL KIDDING ASIDE. | ||
Commodore64 Member Username: Commodore64 Post Number: 226 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.65.11.254 |
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! This is the correct way to urban exploring! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Fz-zn3_rpRU&mode=related&sear ch= | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 669 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194 |
I couldnt care less about the poor grammar. My concern is about the spray paint on the Whitney. Did Wideopendetroit also throw a chair while there? Both actions (spray painting and chair throwing) are vandalism, not urban exploration. | ||
Wideopendetroit Member Username: Wideopendetroit Post Number: 7 Registered: 08-2006 Posted From: 68.41.5.120 |
no we didnt throw a chair in the david whitney building. we wouldnt do something like that. the chair, has been there for years, everyone has just started talking about it. we didnt do that now or way back when. that atrium is in great shape and we wouldnt do anything to destroy that. | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 47 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
Did they get permission to go inside? I like the justification..."Urban Explorers", Nice. Yes that was sarcasism. I bet money they are from the suburbs. I saw them in the video touching something, unscrewing something in the stadium, without permission, I would call that VANDILIZING! | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 59 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 69.14.45.237 |
I'm sorry I ever started this post. It was supposed to draw attention to what I thought was quite impressive--getting into Tiger Stadium. Everyone is whining and complaining about suburbanites, grammar, and anything else they can think of. I was hoping the folks at wideopendetroit--suburbanites, Detroiters, whatever they are, wherever they're from--could help out those of us who want to draw attention to the Stadium and shed some light on getting in, maybe in the hopes of staging a great protest--from the inside. I really don't care about where someone lives. There are reasons people live in the 'burbs, reasons people live in the city, and it's their choice, and nobody's place to criticize them for it. To the folks at wideopendetroit--thanks, and hopefully you're willing to talk about putting your expertise and experience to use in helping the cause of the Stadium, so future generations of Detroiters will have the opportunities to explore it, and not just in pictures like the ones you took and posted. I grew up in the suburbs, still live outside Detroit proper, and I consider myself to be a Detroiter, 100%. Granted, my mailing address isn't "Detroit, MI" but I work downtown, spend my nights out in the heart of the city, get my Saturday breakfast and fresh produce at the Eastern Market, and am probably downtown more than I'm in the suburbs. Just because I choose to reside in another community a few miles away doesn't mean I'm not a Detroiter. I would apologize for the off-topic post, but after all the whining and complaining and the rest of the nonsense that has filled this thread, I feel like this fits right in. | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 190 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 24.247.163.145 |
Wideopen Detroit. I like to urban explore as well. But I also touch nothing except my camera and the floor with my shoes. I also work for an architecture firm that specializes in historic restoration. This is not fun for us to document and figure a way to clean up: http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.g ne?id=167152888&size=l Today I had to assemble photo charts and keynotes to figure out how to clean crap like this up. It's hard to do, and it costs money to do..actually a lot. You say it's not as bad as a chair getting thrown through a skylight. Well guess what, the cost of repairing that glass is hardly what it's going to cost to clean up that brick. Thanks. (Message edited by wolverine on August 03, 2006) | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 48 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
The video does not give a message of saving Tiger Stadium. After reading this last thread in which tigersfan9 states the purpose of this thread, I could not agree more that the cause is of good merit. But frankly, how I read that video, was seeing a couple of white kids horsing around in the stadium. There was nothing they did or said that indicated otherwise. That is why I responded the way that I did. And just to clarify whether they are native Detroiters or from the Burbs is irrelevant. My primary concern is saving the building and not seeing it destroyed. The puropse and execution of the video should have demonstrated a mission that represented the message in the last thread. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 60 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 69.14.45.237 |
Mani, I see what you're saying and I'm with you. I'm not saying they were there crusading to save the stadium. But maybe what they did can be of use for those of us who do want to see the park preserved. That's all. Hopefully, whatever their mission was, we can use it constructively. | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 50 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
i agree and hope something good becomes of the stadium. i grew up right down the street from the stadium and saw many games there as a kid. infact, me and my cousins use to go up on the bridge and make fun of all the people from the burbs coming to see the games. it is sad to see the stadium sit neglected. just like the old train station. it really hits a nerve when i see what people have done to that amazing building (train station). | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5004 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
You've got to be kidding me. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5005 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Would it have been OK with you if it were two black kids "horsing around in the stadium?" How about two Asian kids? I don't see how their race is relevant here. Unless, of course, you're a racist. | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 51 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
Are you stupid or what? At least one of them was white. Hello! And if they were black it would have been ok. Watch the video dork. | ||
Ordinary Member Username: Ordinary Post Number: 27 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.251.226.109 |
Tigersfan9, I know there was a thread here somewhere about the stadium and leaving a part of it as the entrance to some kind of commercial development, kind of like how they incorporated part of that building into Ford Field. I think that's about the best that's going to happen with Tiger stadium. I loved the old place and I can still remember as a kid the first time walking down that dark entryway and walking out and seeing that bright green grass and the players in their crisp white uniforms. Man what a thrill! I remember seeing a Lion's game down there when Lem Barney and Mel Farr were playing. I hate to see it torn down but what could they really do with it? I like to think that tearing some stuff down is part of Detroit's charm, part of its dynamic nature. I think this has been a great thread. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 5006 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
Pretty much what I was expecting. | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 245 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.255.60.139 |
I though the "Jews in Detroit, again" thread was full of the most stupid posts I'd read on this site...until I clicked into this one. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 62 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
Thanks, Shark, for adding some quality to the thread. | ||
Commodore64 Member Username: Commodore64 Post Number: 228 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.65.11.254 |
Hey WideOpen, Did you give that guy with the cart guy a few bucks for doing that video? I sure hope so! I bet its hard painting a shopping cart like that. | ||
Mani Member Username: Mani Post Number: 59 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 68.60.182.26 |
SHARK...your name and your post seem to fit right in with your own comments. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2831 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.211.213 |
All of this discussion is pretty moot. Tiger Stadium is coming down. Home plate, the dugouts and some seats will remain in a park for new residential housing that will greatly enhance the Corktown community while paying homage to the history of the site. Regarding urban exploration, if one only takes pictures and leaves everything in tact, I say, "No harm, no foul". Just be careful and accept any consequences. In the case of a doomed structure like Tiger Stadium, these images may be the only images posterity will have of this stage of its history. | ||
Qweek Member Username: Qweek Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 4.229.63.238 |
My dream for Tiger Stadium: An all sports and recreation facility keeping as much of the history intact as possible. 1) The field for all types of activities, baseball, football, soccer, lacrosse etc. Tournaments and large events. 2) Seating of course. 3) A running/walking track. 4) Bike & rollerblade track. 5) Water park 6) Basketball, volleyball & tennis outside or inside. 7) skateboard park, ramps the works. 8) Convert areas for retail shops and dining facilities. A Gameworks & Hooters would fit in nicely or Buffalo Wild Wings. As for retail, sporting goods, Play It Again, sports memorabilia, Sun Glasses, Shoe Store, on & on. 9) Locker rooms, rent space or temporary usage. 10) If space for it a large ice skating rink, could be outside. 11) Office space. 12) Child watch area and play area for the little ones. 13) Batting cages 14) Space permitting a driving range 15) Maybe have a State of Michigan office where you can purchase licenses for parks, fish & game etc. 16) If possible a sledding area for winter fun. The possibilities are building the more I think of it. The area could support large crowds, parking & freeway access are all there. People would come there and spend the day and money!!! It would be a destination for families to come downtown and enjoy themselves. The more I think about it the better it sounds. Any thoughts? | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 618 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
Hooters is coming downtown | ||
Qweek Member Username: Qweek Post Number: 18 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 4.229.39.85 |
well that just spoils everything! ;) | ||
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c Post Number: 816 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.74.29.181 |
WWJ radio is reporting that six twenty-something suburbanites broke into Tiger Stadium at around 2:30 this morning. According to the report, after drinking heavily at a Corktown bar, the two women and four men entered the stadium and took pictures of themselves smoking marijuana on the pitchers mound and cut several 'Old English D' logos from seat cushions. The group was arrested at around 3:00 AM by Detroit Police. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1796 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 134.215.223.211 |
Wow, FSC got really out of hand last night! | ||
Eric_c Member Username: Eric_c Post Number: 817 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.76.202.10 |
WWJ now reporting they also stole baseballs and left a handful of final game programs laying in the street. One witness reports they were very wobbly, obviously drunk, and describes them as, "not the best B & E team." WWJ says the half-dozen apparently gained access through an unlocked gate near the former pro shop. The gate remains unlocked at this time. | ||
Tigersfan9 Member Username: Tigersfan9 Post Number: 64 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 64.118.151.178 |
I guess that means it's going to get even harder to access the old ballpark than it already is. Too bad. Thanks for the updates, Eric_c. Share any more news they report (can't get WWJ or any AM reception in my office, unfortunately). | ||
Buddyinrichmond Member Username: Buddyinrichmond Post Number: 28 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 67.38.28.69 |
Haha... | ||
Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1227 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 |
+1 http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060809/NEW S99/60809013 | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 107 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.130 |
Wow, the security guard did what he/she was paid to do. I am shocked. | ||
Solarflare Member Username: Solarflare Post Number: 499 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.69.106.3 |
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Thnk2mch Member Username: Thnk2mch Post Number: 229 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 71.65.11.152 |
damn suburbanites | ||
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal Post Number: 158 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.247.222.121 |
damn detroiters...3 of 6 |
