  Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 793 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
IN MY OPINION: We took part in the 4th Friday last week and had a blast. How cool was that? What was totally WAY not cool was 150 West Jefferson. Excuse the valley-girl reference...but I think it's appropriate. After wandering around 4th Friday, we found a flyer that said the afterglow was going to be at this bar. So we went around midnight. We were met with 4 or 5 big burley bouncers in black that, while not menacing (read not overly nice), make me feel uncomfortable. Where are we...some teen place in Novi? If there's one thing I hate is false pretension...like the owners are thinking "If we make the bar hard to get into, people will want to get in." Mildly impressed with the interior, the 7 of us sat down to the bar. The place was empty except for two people at the extreme front of the room at a table and a couple at the other end of the bar. We were not allowed to order drinks as a group...get this we had to pay separately for each drink! I had a vodka martini... $10. Come on people...This goes along with my feelings about false pretension...like the owners are thinking "If we charge more for the drinks our bar will look really cool and people will want to go there." There were, I'd say 8 bartenders behind the bar just standing around. Anyway, I was talking to my friend, we'll call her E, and remarking on her cleavage. She was proud of it. No doubt about it I'm a gay man. So I pulled her shirt down a tad to see if she could get more cleavage. SWOOP...big burley guys swarming in to tell me if I did that again I would be OUT OUT OUT. GEESH! It was a playful gesture, one we were both laughing at, but you’d think I threw a drink on her. Come on dude…I’m one of your only customers…I might buy another ridiculously marked up drinks. Or not. Anyway...we stayed about an hour then left. Totally unremarkable bar… What happened to good ‘ole fashioned good service at a reasonable price? Why go to so much trouble, pay so many people, and charge so much when you have just opened? I’m sticking with my Buzz Bar for now…my mainstay (if any) since Third Street shut down. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1024 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
Wow Quinn, I always thought you were a chick... | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1025 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
And in that vein... I do have to add that I'm guessing if one chick touched another chicks cleavage the bouncers would not have threatened to throw you out... you know those places love some drunk girl on girl prentensions. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10399 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
Will you be showing off your friend's cleavage at the Buzz Bar too? | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6509 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Quinn, had I been one of your guests and saw you do that, I would have threatened to bounce you, too. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 795 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Byotch! Whatever itsjeff. Bounce me, bounce 7 people in a basically empty bar. I hear you susanarosa. And yes sport, if the feeling overcame me I would do that at the buzz bar too. Lets keep in mind...no nip shots...I pulled her shirt down max 1 inch to show 1 inch more clevage. No groping...very innocent. But I digress...maybe I'm wrong wrong wrong. PLUS $10 Martini...like,ew! | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10401 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
Quinn is a dude? WTF?!?!?! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 796 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
I prefer to be Ms. Quinn. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1956 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 70.141.182.158 |
Sounds rather strange, Quinn (about the bar). First off, with that sort of location, it would seem like an after work (5pm drinks) sort of place. If it's late nite only place, then that is very strange. I agree, with the bouncers they're trying to make it look like some sort of serious club that must be packed with people. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2051 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
I always knew Quinn was a gay guy, she hangs with ILD. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2052 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1732 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 10:46 am: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Cafe's bathrooms suck, her bagels are stale, the bartender at the Well steals money, it costs $4 to sit by yourself at Eph Mcnally's, Honest John randomly bans people, and Mike Illitch is the devil. Anything else? Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2036 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:18 am: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Yes, Bean's and Bytes is no longer open 24/7, Canine to Five doesn't groom hamsters, Agave was closed when I stop by last night (they might be closed not sure), Skulker doesn't like buildings and Danindc is an ass. Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2037 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 11:20 am: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- I forgot, my black lab ran away and I have been searching for him about a week now. (Message edited by Merchantgander on July 31, 2006) Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6488 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:04 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Also, it's worth noting, again, that Agave closed. Cafe Member Username: Cafe Post Number: 1321 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 84.162.29.210 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:14 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Borders is way too small. All the rest are huge, but you put one in the D and it is tiny! I want to wear jeans and a hat to the breakfast place on Woodward, but heard it is against the rules. I just won't go. Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2041 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:30 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- The urban ski hill isn't tall enough. There are to many traffic signals around CM it takes to long to drive around it. Excellent call on the Borders Cafe. Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7629 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 12:58 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Hard Rock is going under. Gravitymachine Member Username: Gravitymachine Post Number: 1211 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 198.208.159.18 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 1:27 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- book cadillac funding finalized! Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris Post Number: 362 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24 Posted on Monday, July 31, 2006 - 9:44 pm: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Trolley Market smells like urine. Cafe Member Username: Cafe Post Number: 1323 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 84.162.34.118 Posted on Tuesday, August 01, 2006 - 7:43 am: ------------------------------ ------------------------------ -------------------- Avalon's bread is too hard and too expensive | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2053 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Slow's doesn't have pick up every day of the week. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 797 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Merchant what is all that? Is hardrock really going under? And yes the detroit breakfast place doesn't allow hats (don't know about jeans...I did wear them I think). It does fall into that category of trying to be really pretencious for all the wrong reasons. Mackinnaw, I think my #1 pet peve with bars and clubs is that line of bouncers and check in people. That new bar across from Town pump (and now even town pump does this) employs a bunch of yucky bouncers. It's probably why I really enjoy Cliff Bells...and also why it's always busy and fun! | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6510 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Merchant what is all that? Is hardrock really going under? You'll have to excuse my ignorant friend. If a thread doesn't involve Sharon McPhail or deblousing women, he won't read it. | ||
Merchantgander Member Username: Merchantgander Post Number: 2054 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 150.198.150.244 |
Here you go Quinn: https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/10041/10041.html | ||
Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 912 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 68.42.171.216 |
I've seen pretense from New York to L.A., but none is ridiculous as is the phenomena of Detroit pretense. It's like a bad joke, an imitation of imitation. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 798 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
You are so fired itsjeff. I also talk about pantzing people. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2771 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
Given Quinn's complete lack of credibility, 150 W. Jefferson is probably the exact opposite of what he/she described, a good place.  | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 799 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
I LOVE IT WHEN METRO POSTS! Thanks for the laugh. Loser. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2773 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
You can count on me to call out your bogus claims Quinn/"Ilovedetroit". Phony weirdo. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 800 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Love it Metro...MORE MORE. Bravissima!  | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 610 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.136.147.97 |
George Burns! | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 243 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.210.30.95 |
Have you ever seen the unstable homeless bums and crackheads that try to get into bars downtown? They disturb customers, ask for odd jobs, try to leech drinks, and what they are capable of doing to the bathrooms is unmentionable. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2774 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
Quinn/"Ilovedetroit", are you now claiming that Mildred Gaddis is not in fact human, but is really a monkey wearing glasses? | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 801 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Shark...I've been to Cliff Bells probably 10 times since opening. Never a bouncer or check-in or cover charge person. And I've NEVER seen a bum trying to get in a bar downtown. Honestly...not even the Comet where he'd fit in (not a slam...mind you I fit in at the Comet). I think Mildred Gaddis has your face for a Pus$y metro... | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2775 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
Quinn/"Ilovedetroit" translation = I've never actually been to Cliff Bells, 150 W. Jefferson, Comet, etc. Furthermore, there was no group of friends (certainly not a woman that would let me touch her). | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 802 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
GOD I knew that photo was too close to the truth. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7637 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
I don't know hom much weight that carries when addressed to someone that has stated he is gay. The gay men I know wouldn't be too offended by not being able to touch women. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2776 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
Jt1, THE POINT was that "I don't know how much weight" this review/entire story carries when the poster (and his "friend") have made a number of bogus claims in the past. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 803 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
Yes I'm the owner of the bar across the street and I'm trying to get 150 shut down. Puhlease. Take another xanax and repost that last item. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2777 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.155.192.71 |
Heck Quinn, you and "Ilovedetroit" were/are everything else so why not the "owner of the bar across the street" too? You're far beyond xanax...and viagra too. Keep the bogus claims coming. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 805 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
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Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1751 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Hey I got an idea -- why don't both of you just shut the fuck up? Or at least just don't respond to anything the other person has to say. Is it that hard? Nobody cares about your petty bickering. You don't like each other, we get it. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8675 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.96.174 |
Actually I think they do like each...a lot! | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 806 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.213.101 |
I think you hit the nail on the head. I'm no saint, but I did start this thread. Wherever I go or whatever I say I have a "fan club." Hey anyone have anything else to say that is related to this thread? How about this: I think that Cliff Bells would make a great Drag Bar. Seriously...it's got that great stage with alot of height for head dresses and everything. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2778 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.181.236 |
Quinn, you're a different kind of pirate, correct? And how about not trying to push your lifestyle onto an established business? Dabirch, other threads have also covered the potential harm that erroneous/overly critical posts can cause to a small business. | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1752 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
MDG -- I understand and agree that erroneous or overly critical posts can effect small business. And I agree with you, in theory, on that point. However, between you and Quinn/ILD it is personal - and it does not matter what the position is, you will always be there throwing stones and kicking sand. I am quite certain had Quinn paised the bar, you would've blasted that for some reason as well. Hey that's your right, I am just saying, sometimes the most effective way to confront somebody is to take the high road, and just ignore whatever it is they have to say. Ignore and move on, that is my advice. | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 244 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.208.255.149 |
Yeah, must be my lyin' eyes then. | ||
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster Post Number: 1737 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.250.205.35 |
Um, yeah, he already acknowledged that a million times. I know you are trying to make a funny, but, well, try harder. As for pushing his "lifestyle" on an established bar ... well it's not like Cliff Bell's lacks a gay clientele, so I'm not sure much pushing is required. And a number of gay people I know have commented on how great the setup would be for a drag show. Well except for the giant column blocking the center of the stage. That stage really would be good for that, it has the right amount of kitsch in a well-done way. Personally, I think we are better served with the place the way it is, having seen how drag establishments tend to be in this town. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10406 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
While gays are welcome I'm sure, I hardly think they wish to cross the line catering specifically to the gay patrons, thus driving away others. Perhaps to your surprise, most patrons there to enjoy drinks and jazz music wouldn't be hip to watching a drag show. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10407 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
ps...I think Cliff Bell's would make a great FEMALE strip club. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 6512 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
You'd think that Holy Redeemer would make a great female strip club. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10408 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 64.118.137.226 |
You got me pretty much figured out don't ya? (Does Holy Redeemer have balconies? If so, that'd be sweet!) | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 3551 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.229.113.193 |
Quite a few poles as well. Lap dances in the confessionals? | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1034 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
No, you're confusing it with St. Florian's. They have the poles. (ba-dum-bum-cha) | ||
Dabirch Member Username: Dabirch Post Number: 1753 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 208.44.117.10 |
Wow...I am not sure if that was really funny and clever or about the worst non-jjaba joke ever made. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 1035 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.78 |
Thank you, thank you... don't forget to tip your waitress... Probably the worst non-jjaba joke ever made... But I'm cool with it. (Message edited by susanarosa on August 02, 2006) | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 807 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
Ah I agree then...leave well enough alone. There are certainly other vacant venues that would serve the drag mafiosas better. My point in this review was to 1. Discuss the new bar...who knows maybe other poeple think it's great and I'd like to hear about that (so far not a peep about it specifically) and 2. bitch about this trend i'm seeing with some new bars and restaurants where they act pretentious in a manner that makes me think the owners think that's how to run a successful business (and there have been posts talking about that thank you and you know who you are) Irritates me. Argh... | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2780 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.181.236 |
On the contrary Dialh, try harder at being PC and self righteous. Quinn and his buddy "Ilovedetroit" (maybe the same person?) have "acknowledged" being various races, genders, sexual orientations, occupations, etc. Nice try. Also, as SS already pointed out, there's a big difference between having a certain clientle, and changing formats to exclusively cater to that single minority clientle. Again, nice try. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2781 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.181.236 |
Dabirch, agreed that it has gotten personal between myself and Quinn/"Ilovedetroit". However, keep in mind that I have presented facts to combat their erroneous claims/stories. I have also called them out on their erroneous claims/stories. They are the ones that often resort to name-calling, erroneous claims/stories, and disingenuous postings. I disagree on your point about ignoring certain posts on this forum. As we all know, many people read this forum, including major media. One of their claims was so outrageous that it was picked up by the media. Therefore, on the contrary, bogus claims and matters of credibility should absolutely be raised. And no I would not have commented had the review been positive. Sure in that case he/she could have had a connection to the place and was doing some bogus PR work, however, as I said, an overly negative review could be the exact opposite case. | ||
Quinn Member Username: Quinn Post Number: 808 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 64.139.64.80 |
See...this irritates the rest of you but I find it fascinating and highly entertaining! | ||
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster Post Number: 1738 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.61.187.234 |
Hi, back to remedial reading with you two. I said there were reasons why it'd be good as a drag bar but that it should stay the way it is.
There was nothing PC or self-righteous about my post. I am not even sure I am capable of being PC or self-righteous, and that statement leads me to wonder if you even know what that means. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2784 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.248.5.53 |
I see that you're still trying Dialh. Try harder! |
