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Ndavies
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Post Number: 2021
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Posted From: 69.212.224.68
Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 5:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just opened my fall property tax bill. It just came in the mail. I hope they made a mistake. I live in a multi-unit condo building. Each unit has it's own tax address. My bill included the $300 fee, Plus a $100 multi-unit surcharge. That means each unit is paying $400. So $4800 for this 12 unit building. Ouch. I saw the $300 but not $100 extra due to the fact, I live in a multi-unit building.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Post Number: 1069
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geez... better call City Hall
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Leoqueen
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Posted on Friday, July 28, 2006 - 7:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I live in a co-op that pays for private pickup of trash and garbage.....how does this affect us? Do we still get assessed the fee?
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Cjdb16
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Post Number: 136
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Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am wondering the same thing... Anyone?
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Jfried
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Post Number: 871
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:23 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

bump
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Planner_727
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Post Number: 29
Registered: 07-2006
Posted From: 69.87.150.106
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:37 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Doesn't it seem like there should be a multi-unit DISCOUNT!? They only have to pick up the trash for all of you at one location. Plus, MF units tend to be smaller = less trash. That makes NO sense to me at ALL!
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Danny
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Post Number: 4749
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Posted From: 141.217.174.229
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ndavies,

You are a Detroiter and you problably owned a multi-unit condo in a once Detroit ghettohood now a gentrified neighborhood filled with hip cool young adults. You as a Detroit homeownwer have to pay the $300 trash bill plus fees. Failure to pay your bill will result on ganishment of the salary net pay,income and property tax refunds, or the city of Detroit will contact your bank, broker, or mortage company for a possible LIEN of your property until your back taxes on your trash bill is being paid in full. And it would affect your credit score in the future. So you as a Detroiter had to pay your trash bill to KING KONG KILLpatrick. Or you can think about selling your condo and move back to the suburbs. It's your choice.
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Jfried
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Post Number: 872
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

danny I think you've been smoking some KING KONG KILLpatrik CRACK....

I've waited on the phone for over 20 minutes 6 times this week. The recorded message states that the $100 additional fee is required for multi-unit building OWNERS, not condo owners residing in multi-unit condo buildings.

this and the almost $10,000 reimbursement check I still have not received from finance (from october 05!) has me ready to go KING KONG KILLpatrick on city hall....
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Danny
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Post Number: 4751
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jfried,

I was writing to Ndavies not you!
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Ndavies
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Username: Ndavies

Post Number: 2039
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 129.9.163.233
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've solved the issue. I've just accepted an offer to sell my condo. The new owners will have to deal with this.

Yes Planner_727, It's supposed to be a discount. I'm trying to figure out if all my neighbors got hit with the same fee or just me. My address is the address of the building that used to stand there. It may be expected to cover the entire building. In that case the rest of the building owes me money.

I won't even comment on Danny's Useless rants.
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Danny
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Post Number: 4753
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Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ndavies,

So you made a choice to sell your Detroit condo to avoid the trash fee. Now you have to move into a area where you don't have to pay extra fees month by month. KING KONG KWAME has made a terrible mistake by bringing back the trash fee. Most Detroiters who are low-income don't have the time or money to pay of the fees. The City of Detroit Treasurer's office don't accept julienne type pay arrangements for procrastinated Detroit homeowners but only to 2 parts of $150.00 before the due date. This fate could cause not only for Detroit homeonwers to lost their homes and businesses. It could acclerate a population decrease and lower revenues resulting into a recievership that would call to lift the trah fee proposal.

(Message edited by danny on August 09, 2006)
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 2040
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Posted From: 129.9.163.233
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:39 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Selling my condo had nothing to do with the trash fee. I have a new place under construction in Detroit. If everything goes as planned, I'll be moving there at the end of the year.
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Supersport
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Post Number: 10447
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Posted From: 64.118.137.228
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, NDavies sold his condo over a $100 a year fee. LOL
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Bvos
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Post Number: 1797
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Posted From: 134.215.223.211
Posted on Wednesday, August 09, 2006 - 11:56 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leoqueen, check your previous tax bill. If you've been using private collection you shouldn't have paid the 3 mill trash collection tax. If that's the case they should just carry over that exemption to the new trash fee.

If you were paying for the trash tax in the past you'll have to file some paperwork to get out of the $300 fee, but you should be able to get out of the fee.
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Danny
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:35 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ndavies,

Even through if you move to another condo in Detroit. You still have to pay the $300.00 fee if you OWN a condo. However you can LEASE a condo and pay a dirt cheap trash collection fee not the $300.00 City of Detroit trash fee. Then you in the clear.
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Goat
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 9:54 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danny, please s h u t u p ! !
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 2043
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Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Danny, You didn't understand my post. You're posts are based on incomplete, half thought out ignorance. I have no issue paying the $300 fee. I paid the fee and the extra $100 surcharge. It is actually less than the garbage millage was on my condo. I have an issue being charged $100 more just because I live in a condo building. It should have actually been a discount not an add. I actually believe the garbage fee is a great way to go. It will make some of those undertaxed/undervalued properties pay more of their fair share.
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Danny
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Post Number: 4767
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Goat,

Tell that to the Ghettoman. I'm just one of the STREET PROPHETS!! And this is public forum. I have the Ghettoman have the constitutional right for freedom of speech.
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Danny
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Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:05 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ndavies,

Didn't you just quote that I've solved the issue. I've just accepted an offer to sell my condo. The new owners will have to deal with this.

Are you really moving out of your condo or are you staying. TELL ME THE TRUTH!!!
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Magnasco
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Posted From: 71.159.22.100
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

BTW, you are not supposed to lose your home over the fee. The way it was to be implemented was that if a citizen pays everything but their trash fee, which would actually be a reduced tax burden in EVERY instance due to the removed 3 mills, then that remaining fee would be treated just like an unpaid water bill. It would become a lien against the property to be paid when the home sold. That was what I understood as to intent. Now it may have been impmlemented differently, I haven't checked.

As for the multi unit buildings, I am trying to get an answer on that and will update as I learn anything.
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 2044
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Posted From: 129.9.163.105
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:18 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, so many things I want to say to you Danny. Unfortunately they would be such a waste of time. You wouldn't understand an insult when you saw it.

Everything I posted is true. You figure out what I did.
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J_stone
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Username: J_stone

Post Number: 333
Registered: 10-2003
Posted From: 63.77.247.130
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm not paying it. I'll make the city come and get it first. Then I'll pay it.

My guess is that most citizens will NOT be paying this, so why should I?
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Ndavies
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Post Number: 2047
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Posted From: 129.9.163.233
Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 11:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, you can either pay it now, or pay it later. Along with interest and penalties. It will be just like the water bill. They will put a lien on your house. You will then have to pay it to be able to sell your house.
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Antonyj11
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Post Number: 65
Registered: 12-2004
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Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So does anyone know for sure how this garbage fee is assessed on multiunit condo buildings? It seems like it would make the most sense to have a $300 flat fee for the building plus a $100 surcharge for each unit.

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