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Livedog2
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Designut, you were right on the Atlas Pop thread the cases for Atlas Pop were made of wood. I have a number of them and here is a picture of one.

Atlas Pop Case
atlas

But, carrying the discussion a little farther being a lifelong Eastsider I don't know the answer to this question but I can remember Jjaba saying, "I have no memory of Eastside Atlas Pop." My question is was there a Pop indigenous to the Westside only like Atlas was to the Eastside?

Also, Hornwrecker said, “The owner of Atlas Bottling used to live down the block from me, on Lantz near Van Dyke.” I am a little confused did someone come up with the name of the man that was the owner of Atlas Bottling? Did I hear correctly that his name was Tomasczewski? And, is that the same name of a one time mayor of Hamtramck? And, if so was that him?

Does anyone know what ever happened to the Trade Name "Atlas Beverages" and whatever happened to the receipes for Atlas Pop. Suppose someone wanted to resurrect the Atlas Brand just the way it was with the same flavors, made in the same way???

Today is the day for questions for me!

Livedog2
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Jjaba
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba doesn't remember any Westside pop, per se.
Westsiders loved Hires, Vernors, Pepsi, Squirt, Faygo and Detroit beers like E&B, Strohs, Pfeiffers, Carlings. But jjaba could be wrong about this.

What is known is the bags of Planters Peanuts poured into the tops of 12 oz. Pepsi bottles, just before you delivered your Detroit Times route. And mothers warming Vernors as the elixer that cured everything.

jjaba, Proudly Westside.
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Designut
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Livedog - I knew I remembered wooden crates...the debate (in my head) was actually recently settled at the fourth street fair where I saw one packed with used LPs...unfortunately only the records were for sale...

...anyways, continuation of Atlas pop thread - carry on...
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Messykitty
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What? Why would you put peanuts in Pepsi? Just confused/curious.
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Kathleen
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Messykitty: A well-known Southern tradition is Peanuts 'n Coke (any kind of cola drink will do, although Coca Cola, aka Coke, is their preference).

http://www.marshbunny.com/reci pes/peanuts.html
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Messykitty
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 3:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, thanks. That sounds...um...interesting?
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Designut
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Hah- Livedog, I don't know how I missed it before - but I too have had that thought/dream...Wouldn't it be great if Faygo would obtain the rights and recipes to resurrect Atlas?

Yes, a pipedream I know, but........................... .......

btw-peanuts and cola huh? that's a new one to me
(scratching my head)
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Detroitej72
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Didn't some new owner buy the rights to Towne Club pop and move it down to Eastern Market in the old Atlas building a few years ago? I thought I remembered vaguely reading this...I could be wrong, the brain is slipping in my old age of mid-30's!!!
I am sure I bought a case of Town Club at Hollywood Market in Royal Oak about 8 years ago.
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Nedab3
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Living on the Eastside from 1944-1960 as a youth I may remember Atlas a little bit. My question is when did the name party store w/yellow sign happen. I worked at Blue Swan Beer Store. I remember them all being called beer stores. Beer was stored in the basement and moved upstairs on rollers when needed. Heavy duty cardboard boxes and reused. Mostly Strohs, Goebel, E&B, National Bohemian, Altes. Not much Budweiser in Detroit.
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Jjaba
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Nedab3, you nailed it. In Cincinnati, their stores are called Pony Kegs.

So get yourselves a bottle of Pepsi or Coke and stuff down salted Planters nuts. Drink and Eat, the swirl of Coke and salt. It is an all-American snack enjoyed in Detroit since Detroit started.

Joe Louis won his fights that way.
Ty Cobb hit all those hits that way.
Al Kaline patrolled Kaline Corner that way.
Willie Horton rode shotgun in the 1967 riot that way.
Mad Anthony Wayne went to war that way.
Lowell Boileau delivered Sears appliances that way.
Now, it's your turn.

jjaba, old timey Detroiter.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seems like the west siders in my neck of the woods preferred Pepsi with their peanuts, but that was just a small part of the west side. Pepsi is still my choice.

The household beer of my parents and grandparents (and their company) was always Altes Golden Lager. I can see those green labels even now.

Ray1936, wiped out from moving in July (how dumb can a person be?)
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Bvos
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got Pepsi, but no peanuts. Damn! I guess I'll have to go out and buy peanuts for my next round of Pepsi and try Jjaba's concoction.
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Hornwrecker
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I tried to find some more info about Atlas, and who owned it, but so far have bupkis. I think this is going to be one of those things that will be found out, by searching for something else, or will come up in conversation with the right person, whoever that might be.



I've one of those cardboard Altes cases somewhere, I have to dig it out for a photo, if I can find it.
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Livedog2
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kwik's Beer & Wine Store on Conant near Holbrook in Hamtramck was the place to go to in my near, Eastside neighborhood. If you could reach the counter and had the price of a GIQ it was yours! Then you jumped back in your 1957 silver colored, Chevrolet, Bel Air convertible with a 283, 3 speed with overdrive and power pack and head South on Conant to where it changes to Mt. Elliott heading for Belle Isle. Continue down to E. Grand Blvd. and turn left, passing the “old” Packard Plant where the Blvd. takes a sharp 90 degree turn South. As you get near “the Island” just North of Jefferson you take the tunnel that passes under Jefferson with the sign that says, “Do Not Honk Horn” but everyone honks anyway. As you are climbing up out of that Jefferson tunnel underpass you hit the Belle Isle Bridge and you’re almost in heaven. You’d find a place in Lover’s Lane, pop the cap on your GIQ with a “church key”, start killing that GIQ and watch the “submarine races” with your girl. It just didn’t get any better than that! Unfortunately, all that catholic training and guilt from St. Stany’s or St. Florian’s or St. Lad’s worked its wonders and nothing of any significance happened!

Livedog2
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Ray1936
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Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 10:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for that tour, Livedog2. I closed my eyes after reading it and could see every block of the way.

Yeah, nothing of serious significance happened. But there was some.........well, never mind.

Ray1936 in his white '55 Ford convertible.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About the Pepsis. Must be a 12 oz. bottle and a bag of Planter's salted peanuts. It tis the perfect measure. They packed exactly the number of peanuts you want for your Pepsi. If you stop pouring in nuts from a box, you'll not know the formula and you could die from overdose.

jjaba's warantee of complete satisfaction is limited to following the above by the letter.

Livedog2, are you talking about Detroit? jjaba's never heard of those places.

jjaba, Westsider.
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Livedog2
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 2:04 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jjaba, it's an Eastside thing! :-)

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Jjaba
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 5:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh, that explains zit. Thanks.
jjaba.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pepsi's radio jingle stays with me to this day:

"Pepsi Cola, hits the spot,
Twelve ounce bottle, that's a lot,
Twice as much for your nickle too,
Pepsi Cola is the drink for you."

The 'twice as much for your nickle' was a dig at rival Coca-Cola, who sold six ounce bottles (also for a nickle).
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Nedab3
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember it as "twelve full ounces thats a lot" Also in a 55-57 Chevy you never needed a "church key" the door hinge worked great.
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Ray1936
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're right, Nedab3. My bad. But I was close!
:-)
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wasn't Coke sold in 7-oz. green glass bottles? The same as 7-oz. "shorties" for beer?
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Livedog2
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone remember Sweet Sixteen Pop? It was the first 16oz. bottle of pop that I can remember. The Cream Soda was the best in it's day. I remember it from back in the late 1940's and early 1950's. On a Friday Night a good cold bottle of Sweet Sixteen Cream Soda and a bag of New Era Potato Chips -- now that was real living!

sweet

Livedog2
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Kova
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Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 11:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Idoubt this is the same Company,

Searched for: ATLAS BOTTLING CO.

ID Num: 051494


Entity Name: ATLAS BOTTLING CO.
Type of Entity: Domestic Profit Corporation

Resident Agent: SYLVESTER TOMASEWSKI
Registered Office Address: 12170 CONANT DETROIT MI 48212

Mailing Address:

Formed Under Act Number(s): 284-1972

Incorporation/Qualification Date: 3-31-1976

Jurisdiction of Origin: MICHIGAN

Number of Shares: 50,000

Year of Most Recent Annual Report: 92

Year of Most Recent Annual Report With Officers & Directors:
Status: AUTOMATIC DISSOLUTION Date: 7-15-1995
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Livedog2
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Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 12:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think you've got it, Kova. But, I don't think this is the original Incorporation Date. This may be a later version of the Atlas Bottling Co. But, the name SYLVESTER TOMASEWSKI sounds awful familiar to me. Maybe others can help out with this one. There's got to be some original Incorporation/Qualification Date somewhere.

Livedog2

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