  Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1217 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.130.18.100 |
while other cities on way to new records http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 60722/ap_on_re_us/mickey_s_tow n_murders_1 | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 812 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
It's not just the killings but the shootings and injuries to the people who survive and their families that bothers me the most. Innocent people minding their own business that have their lives wrecked by a crackhead or hothead who can't control himself is what upsets me. When people don't feel safe in their neighborhoods, they either leave or live in fear. What quality type of life is that? Poverty and crime make Detroit a not so fabulous ruin of a city. | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 711 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.61.194.237 |
The article didn't really give any details to substantiate their claim. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 459 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
Here's a more Detroit-specific one: http://www.sciencedaily.com/up i/index.php?feed=TopNews&artic le=UPI-1-20060414-16205900-bc- us-homicides.xml | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 817 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
If the cops hadn't been such hardasses for years, more people might come forward with info to help put the thugs in jail. That plus the fact they fear retribution from the gangsters and (or) their friends after they get out on bail or the charges don't stick. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 167 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Tetsua, Why are there always people like you on every post? Can you even read? their claim was that "Orlando (is) set to shatter homicide record". So, I'll explain this once... S L O W L Y. What they did was add up all the homicides in the city so far. Then they projected that over the rest of the year and discovered that if the pace of murders continues there will be more murders in Orlando that ever before. Simple. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 462 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
Lilpup: Just for future reference, the word is spelled "homicide." With an "i." Homocide is a derogatory term often used to refer to the murder of a gay person. I know that wasn't your intent, but I'm just sayin'. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2716 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.248.11.127 |
Paulmcall, what about a sizable portion of the population and the influence of certain sects of pop culture that glorifies the thug (criminal) lifestyle, thumbing your nose at the law, and authority figures? It's not just "cops being hardasses for years" and "fear of retribution". | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1218 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.130.18.100 |
Warrior, I saw the typo after posting but there's no way to correct thread titles (that I know of anyway) I DO no how to spel despeyet majering in enjinearring  | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4026 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.185.217.114 |
Metro, But, if you follow the logic back to its beginning where did this 'thug culture' come from? It came from "hardass" police forces stepping on the neck of a certain population. It's a manifestation. Remember, at the beginning of reconstruction, the community was making huge strides. It wasn't until the upward moving community was maligned and frontally assualted with Jim Crow and other evolved former slave codes. The culture is a manifestation that has gone past the point of being excused, but it is also helps to point out the cause and origin of this negative subculture. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1899 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 75.0.88.76 |
"Despite the rise, there is no overwhelming sense of fear around town, and no evidence vacationers are avoiding the area. Downtown bars and clubs still crowd at night, families continue to arrive in droves at theme parks and joggers and dog-walkers still make their way around city parks after dark." Shocking, isn't it? That's just some brilliant reporting. The same thing could be said about just about any city, because they all have crime, and even though Detroit's murders will be up this year, you could say a lot of the same things about our city (minus the theme parks stuff). | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8651 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.70.86 |
So with this rationale, you are saying that people would rather be murdered than go to the cops? Good logic. ...will not be suprised to see 460 due to gun culture and uneducated fools. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10352 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
460 would give the city street cred and keep those Canadians away. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4027 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.197.28.123 |
BTW, predicting murders even into the next week is fuzzy science, at best. It's one of the least reliable of the social sciences, with so many different/varying factors to try and predict is like shooting into the sky, pun not intended, really. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10354 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Lmichigan, Yet they STILL call for the doomsday about this time every year. | ||
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris Post Number: 349 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24 |
Anyone going to that March on Puritan tonight? Everyone is welcome: Protesting the recent wave of violence in that neighborhood. Can I bum a ride with someone who is going? | ||
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris Post Number: 350 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24 |
By the way... I live downtown. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 883 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
we have the crisis in orlando, as stated in lilpup's post. i woke up this morning to hear the newscasters on the today show talking about the murder crisis in philadelphia. i read the headlines last week about emergency measures being enacted in washington d.c. in response to a "murder epidemic" in our nation's capital. new orleans has called in the national guard to combat homicide. and, i've been following the headlines in the saginaw news, and flint journal: shooting galleries. saginaw is truly a "wild west" type of city. tonight, i'm looking after a cat that has been a pet for almost twenty years, and i wonder if the poor creature will survive another twenty days. i think that she'd be better off if i ended her life tonight, but i can't bring myself to do it - not just yet. meanwhile tonight, there's some young person, growing up, hanging out with friends, telling jokes, and someone will walk up and shoot that kid in the face, just to prove "superiority." | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4039 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.197.28.123 |
Thcarl, what are your talking about in that last line? Sounds like a random murder, to me, of which are the rarest type of murders. What you're mentioning is an exception that could happen anytime anywhere, not the rule. That is, unless you meant something else. What is far more likely to happen tonight is there will be kids and immature adults hanging out, getting in heated arguments and then taking it to the next level. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 886 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
lmichigan, i'm saying that some people will take the life of another human being more quickly than some humans would step on an ant. | ||
Dpd_blue Member Username: Dpd_blue Post Number: 152 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 67.149.19.111 |
Imagine if the thugs were good shots...The city already has well over 200 homicides this year, but somewhere around 1,000 non-fatal shootings. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4047 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.197.28.123 |
Where can one find those stats, DPD Blue? It's often not discussed how many non-fatal shootings cities have. | ||
Thejesus Member Username: Thejesus Post Number: 104 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.138 |
Damn...1 in every 1,927 Detroiters will die by homicide this year... That sure sounds high | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8661 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.70.86 |
No, it sounds like fucking Palestine. Pathetic is what it is. But I guess when having the least amount of schooling is considered "street cred" then no wonder. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10367 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Do you even live here? | ||
Tayshaun22 Member Username: Tayshaun22 Post Number: 283 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.14.101.116 |
Canadians don't understand the importance of street cred. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4050 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 24.11.189.10 |
Yeah, because it's all about "keepin' it real?" Don't get my started. The murder rate is pathetic, but exaggerating it by comparing it to a literal war zone is just as pathetic. | ||
Gmich99 Member Username: Gmich99 Post Number: 133 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 24.208.231.212 |
Is there a source that can break the murder statistics down by socio-economic groups. The idea of "black on black" crime has existed for many years. Do we see this concentrating or do we see it extending into other groups? | ||
Dpd_blue Member Username: Dpd_blue Post Number: 153 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 67.149.19.111 |
They very rarely discuss the non-fatal shooting number in public, but it is public record. I would attend some Police Commissioners meetings and request the numbers. Maybe one of the news agencies will stop sugar coating the violence in the city and do some stories on the true violence in Detroits neighborhoods. Just two weekends ago in the Eastern District no cars were available for police runs on Midnights because each car was holding down a seperate shooting scene (9 seperate shootings in 1 hour). | ||
Mrchills Member Username: Mrchills Post Number: 24 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 63.113.196.170 |
That number is sickening on SO many levels. On average there are just as many people killed in Detroit (a city less than 1 million) than the ENTIRE country of Canada (over 33 million) | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8663 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.54.70.86 |
Well Sport, I wouldn't live anywhere that you do. People like you who have to carry a weapon in their pants to make up for the lack of "weapon" in their pants are what destroys the lives of others. I guess I don't keep it real enough. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4054 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.185.186.81 |
It's not just Detroit. The United States has been a vigilante state since its inception. Violence is just part of the culture as a whole, and it's going to take a social revolution to change it, IMO. There will have to be a nation-wide "enough is a enough" ideology, and I'm not just talking about those in the inner-cities. This violence is something that effects us ALL to varying degrees whether you live in "safe" Livonia, or "dangerous" Detroit. | ||
Dillpicklesoup Member Username: Dillpicklesoup Post Number: 136 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 64.7.188.183 |
detroit ain't going to improve until everybody stop killing everybody- ridiculous-indeed!!!!!!! | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 4056 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.185.186.81 |
Wow, great observation, there, Captain Obvious. | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1062 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
Its a shame that the Eastern District has just 9 patrol cars available.. Gotta find a way to increase police presence...damn | ||
Bibs Member Username: Bibs Post Number: 531 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Perhaps, Lmichigan is right! 9 Killed in Seattle area in as many days http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 60727/ap_on_re_us/seattle_kill ings Here is the amusing part. "Seattle police spokesman Rich Pruitt noted that none of the three mass killings this month took place within city limits, though all were near. Still, Seattle itself has had 17 killings already this year — more than a third of them from one attack in March, when a man shot and killed six people at a rave after-party in the worst mass killing the city had seen in decades | ||
Dpd_blue Member Username: Dpd_blue Post Number: 155 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 67.149.19.111 |
There was a triple shooting tonight near Palmer Park with 2 killed. Let's see if the news bothers to report it. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 892 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
really? how about dpd stonewalling the press? it seems to me that dpd needs to be more vocal, tell a story, and strike a chord with the public when crimes occur. then again, a lot of these crimes occur when nobody knew the victim, or the assailant, and didn't see or hear anything. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 829 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
"Hear no evil, see no evil, and don't tell the cops even if you did", seems to be the story too many times. When your neighborhood is overrun with hoods, you are reluctant to point them out for fear of retribution. It's like a cancer has taken over the city in to many areas. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 830 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
"Hear no evil, see no evil, and don't tell the cops even if you did", seems to be the story too many times. When your neighborhood is overrun with hoods, you are reluctant to point them out for fear of retribution. It's like a cancer has taken over the city in too many areas. |
