  Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1216 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.130.18.100 |
and the AP picked up the story http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060722/M ETRO/607220342 | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 222 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
Great story! He should get more of a reward, though... | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 604 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
yeah.. big time. | ||
Pdtpuck Member Username: Pdtpuck Post Number: 130 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.251.168.194 |
well, seeing how the owner's son is an attorney, he should be used to hearing "33%," right?  | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 224 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
True.... It's more than what they thought, they should slide the honest guy some cash. He COULD have cashed those since we all know there are places that ask no questions. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 765 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 70.8.52.139 |
He should definitely give the guy at least 10% and consider it tithing. later - naturalsister | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1657 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.126.135 |
So this family is not even aware that they had tens of thousands of dollars in bonds and the reward they come up with is one hundred dollars? I would think someone might tell them the reward amount is best described as niggardly and inapropriate. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 167 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56 |
$100. Cheap. Mother. Fucker. | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 162 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103 |
I hope they burn in helllllllll..............well at least rott. Beitches. That sucks. 313 | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 458 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
Um, it's not like he could have just taken them down to the local check cashing liquor store, you'd have to cash these in at a bank. Name me one bank that would cash $20,000 in savings bonds to a homeless man without proper ID. These savings bonds were in another man's name. They were worthless to the homeless man, they are only worth something to the owner. $100 may be a cheap reward, but it's better than the fistful of toilet paper he would have gotten otherwise, because that's what those savings bonds would have been worth to him. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 605 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
warriorfan... he could have gotten them cashed out, trust me lol. | ||
East_detroit Member Username: East_detroit Post Number: 650 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.212.169.194 |
Google says the guy is: Neil J. Lehto Attorney and Counselor at Law 4035 Iverness Lane West Bloomfield, MI 48323248-851-4276 nlehto@sbcglobal.net Seems like a guy working in West Bloomfield could afford more than a $100 award. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 414 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5 |
"I know you can't cash them," Moore said after breakfast Friday morning. "They're no good to nobody but the person (named). They belong to him. I did the right thing." Odd that Mr. Moore doesn't seem as upset with the reward as some of the people on this board are. Actually he doesn't seem upset at all based on the fact that he stated that he did the right thing. Good for him, doing the right thing shouldn't be based on how much of a reward you're going to get. | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 811 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
Hey, the guy did what he thought was right. If he's happy with the reward, who are we to complain for him? What would you do if you found a bag of money by the side of the road (not just bonds)? I'd go home and count it and hope there was no dye exploding inside the bag. | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 169 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56 |
$100 is a pittance. I stand by my C.M.F. | ||
Rjk Member Username: Rjk Post Number: 415 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.41.145.5 |
Was this guy suppose to give more money to Mr. Moore because he is homeless? Would $100 be alright for someone who made a decent living? I get the impression that Mr. Moore is very happy with himself this morning and has no regrets. I think it's kind of insulting to poor people that they need more of a money reward for doing what is right. | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 82 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
$100 isn't a high percent but on the chance they gave him more I'm sure as heck that the IRS would be looking for a 1099 from the guy. BTW I predict that the stink over the reward will be fairly loud. But who among us knows if there was more done than we are aware. If the guy that turned them in is happy, fine by me. (Message edited by angry dad on July 23, 2006) | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 142 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.131.176.232 |
I just heard about this on the radio in New York. Cheap ass... | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 606 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
I don't think ANYONE said anything about the reward being higher because he was homeless.. We hear about thee stories all the time, someone turns in like 50,000k cash can gets like 200 bucks. In this day and age hell yeah someone shoule be OFFERED more money for doing right, now its up to the person to turn it down. Whatever... o well. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 143 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.131.176.232 |
Yeah, it has little to do with the fact that he was homeless... but that just puts the exclamation point on the sentence! It's principle. This person had $21,000 in savings that he lost. A homeless man, with nothing of his own to lose, found them. Sure, he may not have been able to do anything with them, but he also sure as hell didn't have to find the owner. He could had the most expensive toilet paper on the block for a few days. Yet, "he did the right thing". The next day he's still homeless. It's such an encouraging story. I now must run and tell every 6 year old I know about doing the right thing... | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 607 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
Iheart.... thats the good old media, making sure we read it like that was the deal breaker that he was homeless. | ||
Gary Member Username: Gary Post Number: 158 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.248.0.20 |
lheartthed is right; Mr. Moore was under no obligation to go to the trouble of returning the bonds to the rightful owner. Regardless if the bonds could have been cashed or not, the fact remains that this Lehto guy would have been out over $20,000 had it not been for the simple honesty of someone he doesn't even know. That alone would seem to be worth more than a hundred bucks in gratitude. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2476 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.5 |
Something tells me that the lawyer is going to rue the day he only gave $100 dollars. Especially if this goes nationwide, as it appears. Just like on this forum, public sentiment will go both ways (too cheap, not cheap at all). But since the lawyer has been "outted", a percentage of the people who think he's cheap, will certainly let him know!! | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 168 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
$100 is pretty low for finding and returning almost $21000 worth of bonds. 6 months rent somewhere would have been better. I'll be the guy at the corner store didn't have any problem breaking that $100 for a 1/5th. | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 660 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.248.252 |
Just a crazy theory, but what if he actually did get much more, but considering his place in life at the moment, they didn't want it to be made public that a homeless guy in a hostile street atmosphere might have a lot of cash on him. Just thinking out of the box. | ||
Young_detroiter Member Username: Young_detroiter Post Number: 170 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 69.209.138.49 |
Matt, That's an interesting assessment of a possible situation. Unless the sum of money was great enough to provide adequate housing, a larger reward (reported to the media) would have easily made him a target. I can only hope that something like this occurred. Otherwise, the reward amount is simply inconsiderate. Lehto may not have even known that his father had uncashed bonds. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 461 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
I've found plenty of shit and returned it to the owners or turned it in and never once have I received ANYTHING as a reward. I've found and returned wallets three different times (cash intact), where I actually went to the person's address listed on their license to give them their wallet back. I've gone out of my way to return cell phones that I found to their owners. On two occasions, I found expensive jewelry (one was a ring, the other a diamond braclet) and turned them in so that the owners could hopefully claim them. I could have kept all that shit, but I returned it or turned it in because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO. I never expected to be rewarded, and I never received a reward. Saying "Thank you" should be reward enough for a simple good deed. | ||
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock Post Number: 273 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.66 |
Warriorfan, Damn right! There are thousands of people everyday who do the right things, yet never once are they being thanked for their actions. This guy at least got a story in the paper. Shoulda woulda coulda can't change shit. Do the right things for the right reasons. Not this selfish, entitlement, score-keeping mentality. Without the mention of a reward, we need more articles like this in our media. | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 609 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
No one said he did it for the reward... The argument is that he should have recieved more... read everything, dont skim... | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 736 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 71.10.61.35 |
Now, was it necessary to specify that the man that found the bonds was "homeless?" Why make him feel bad? Where are their pc manners in this story? Why should it make any difference to the story? They didn't make a big deal out of the fact that he is a recovering addict/alcoholic, Albino, midget, transvestite trying to pay off his student loans from WSU Medical School. Shezo, phezo! Livedog2 | ||
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock Post Number: 275 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.66 |
quote "The argument is that he should have recieved more... read everything, dont skim..." Vizion, He should of recieved more? How in God's name can you say that? Simply looking at the numbers doesn't mean a thing. I guess if you want to play by those rules we should be paying our firemen, volunteers, aidworkers, soliders, teachers and everyday heros millions for the deeds they do. What I'm trying to say is you can't expect a generous reward everytime you help someone out, no matter how big. All that you can hope for is more good deeds like that to passed down to everyone. I mean how do you know the whole history of this man? Yeah the article does make him sound cheap, but what if he needed every cent of that bond money. You can't hose him if don't know where its going. "Shoulda woulda coulda can't change shit. " read ALL of my post, this time don't skim | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 610 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.10.173 |
blah...... :-D | ||
Hagglerock Member Username: Hagglerock Post Number: 276 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 12.214.243.66 |
I know I sound like some religious guy. | ||
Lilpup Member Username: Lilpup Post Number: 1219 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.130.18.100 |
"Now, was it necessary to specify that the man that found the bonds was 'homeless?'" perhaps the writer wanted to cast a better light on the area's homeless population | ||
Pdtpuck Member Username: Pdtpuck Post Number: 131 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 208.251.168.194 |
i found a checkbook at work with a balance of $400k...turned it in w/o batting an eye. good parents, mine were! | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 157 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.136.155.244 |
As I read it, the bonds did not belong to the attorney, they now belong to his mother, the widow of the deceased bond owner. Who are we to judge that she doesn't need every penny of her husband's estate to pay off his and her medical bills, loans, etc.? I think the likely reason they specified the homelessness of the finder was to counter the prejudices of those who think that the poor are somehow less honest than the rest of us (a worthy reason, in my opinion). Furthermore, I think the likely reason they specified the occupation of the person who gave the reward was to play to the prejudices of those who like to think that there are too many people poor and homeless people because there are too many rich people (the old class warfare mantra about "the rich get richer while the poor keep getting poorer"). | ||
Wolverine Member Username: Wolverine Post Number: 177 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 64.7.170.83 |
Well, that was very honorable for the homeless man to even try and get them back IMO. Most people don't even give the homeless a glance. The owner was very fortunate this man actually DID SOMETHING for the class of people who just don't seem to care. I know a lot people are making complicated arguments about this...some more than they need to be. But if I had that much money, my conscience would sure feel a lot better knowing I awarded way more to this individual. Shit, I see poor college studens awarding $300 to anyone who can find their laptop probably worth only about $1,500. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1896 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 75.0.88.76 |
He got 21k out of the clear blue sky, and he only gives back 100 to the guy that made it happen. Pretty cold. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 918 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146 |
How do we contact the homeless guy? I want to give him a check for $101. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 241 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
His name was printed in the paper, as well as the place where he went to ask for help in contacting the family members. I'm sure they could contact him. If I read correctly, the place who called the family is the place where the 100 will be dropped off and they are getting it to the guy. | ||
Hooha Member Username: Hooha Post Number: 118 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 24.145.153.182 |
I just saw on channel 7 that some people got together and gave the guy 1000 bucks and a job. | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 248 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
GOOD! Maybe all he needed was a break. Glad to see there are caring people all over. | ||
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen Post Number: 1448 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 140.244.107.151 |
Rewards swell to $4,000 for homeless man: Offers of cash, clothes and job pour in for finder of $21,000 in bonds. http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060725/M ETRO/607250354 | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 738 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
The FORD FOUNDATION picked-up this story off of the wire services and are offering the homeless man a job heading up the new line of cars called the Edsel II. But, the share holders are going to nix the deal because Chairman Ford said, "This man is too honest, how can we make a profit with honest people at the helm?" News and pictures at 11:00 on your Eyewitness News Station -- WPRI! Livedog2 | ||
Abraham Member Username: Abraham Post Number: 14 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.62.57.21 |
Thats one dumb bum. Realy though, its good to see someone rewarding him. (Message edited by abraham on July 25, 2006) | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1669 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.132.89 |
Dumb how? Nevermind.Nevermind that he would have had to commit forgery and fraud to attempt i.e. just attempt to convert the items in question. Nevermind that he humbly did the right thing and is being rewarded by some decent folks. Nah you Abraham are just bucking for the stupid dyes post of the day over on HFD; my educated guess is that you are well on your way. | ||
Wash_man Member Username: Wash_man Post Number: 44 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 69.221.80.238 |
This story made national news today. It was on Good Morning America. | ||
Abraham Member Username: Abraham Post Number: 15 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.62.57.21 |
What is the stupid dyes post of the day, and where or what is HFD. Please dont claim to be making an "educated " guess about me when you dont even know me. If you did you would realize your "educated" guess is way off. Shitstarter! (Message edited by abraham on July 26, 2006) | ||
Citylover Member Username: Citylover Post Number: 1670 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 4.229.123.52 |
My educacted guess refer to hotfudge detroit.com | ||
Scofield Member Username: Scofield Post Number: 14 Registered: 07-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
http://www.cnn.com/video/playe r/player.html?url=/video/us/20 06/07/25/chodum.homeless.samar itan.wxyz I guess honesty does pay! Atta-boy to the local business people that stepped up! Bravo!  | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 1053 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
ABC news had a story/video on him too...Also, front page on the AOL homescreen... | ||
Detroitteacher Member Username: Detroitteacher Post Number: 280 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
He said he was going to use the money to find an apartment. Seems like the guy just needed a break (he was a roofer in Ohio before coming to Michigan). Glad folks stepped up to the plate and are giving this guy a chance. On the AOl homepage picture, he had a tear coming down his face. This story only goes to prove that Detroit (and its surrounding areas) are full of good people. | ||
Mikeg Member Username: Mikeg Post Number: 161 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 69.136.155.244 |
Charles Moore should thank his lucky stars that Marian Lehto chose not to deliver her reward to him in person. This story would never have gotten "legs" if Marian, the elderly widow of a Detroit postal worker who died in 2004, had shown up at the mission and dug the $100 reward out of her purse. | ||
Dillpicklesoup Member Username: Dillpicklesoup Post Number: 133 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 64.7.188.183 |
yeah- the cheap sob- he would have spent more of his valuable time trying to replace the bonds- | ||
Ventura67 Member Username: Ventura67 Post Number: 53 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.41.239.143 |
Look at it this way, his original reward was as good as a five day vacation from his job of picking bottles out of stinking trash cans and sweating in the city heat posting flyers- KISS HIS ASS with your $100!!!!!!!!!! At least people with good hearts like his are finding him now! |
