Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field
Post Number: 595 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.21.40.16
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 5:06 pm: | |
Do you notice a difference in how clean downtown is? Have the Clean Detroit crews made downtown so sanitized and sparkling that you could eat off the streets? |
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid
Post Number: 118 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.161.193
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 5:08 pm: | |
yes |
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73
Post Number: 105 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.42.80.245
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 5:12 pm: | |
Are they going to clean the Book tower? That would be awesome. |
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid
Post Number: 121 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.161.193
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 5:16 pm: | |
no |
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026
Post Number: 960 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 6:48 pm: | |
They are hoping to expand the cleaning to include all of downtown bounded by the freeways... They have also been working extra shifts on the weekends too... Its really making a difference. I tipped a couple of the guys that were working at 11pm after a Tiger's game, and they said that they were receiving lots of positive feedback from everyone downtown. Impressive job. |
Gannon
Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 6124 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 8:17 pm: | |
I was going to send a memo out to Mr. Penske to see if he could get God to cut down on the wind some... ...it seems that these breezes do a stellar job tranporting plastic grocery bags all over the town. This is apparently against the bag's wishes, since they impale themselves on any nearby razor wire fencing as soon as possible. Walking behind the Fire Department's Maintenance warehouse on the north end of Eastern Market this morning, I noticed how filthy their southeast fenced lot has become. It is slowly becoming a junkyard of crashed and retired smaller department vehicles, and looks worse every week. Luckily, this is the side where the majority of people can see as they come in to shop at the market. At the very least, can they score a few of those fence wraps that appeared all over downtown before the SuperBowl?! |
1953 Member Username: 1953
Post Number: 911 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 4.165.78.125
| Posted on Saturday, July 01, 2006 - 10:57 pm: | |
The cleaning is great, but they should arm the crews to replace bad sidewalks and streets and plant trees. |
Wmuchris Member Username: Wmuchris
Post Number: 330 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.24
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:17 am: | |
Cleaning is great. But we need to begin educating our citizens to keep the city clean. Often, I'll wake up on monday to see the park in front of my apartment littered with trash. It had just been cleaned less than two days before. Sad. |
Drm Member Username: Drm
Post Number: 998 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.226.199
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:20 am: | |
Based upon my research on other cities' forums on urbanplanet, I've concluded that Americans as a whole are too stupid to use a trash can. |
Supersport Member Username: Supersport
Post Number: 10272 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:27 am: | |
Can we toss these stoopid people in the river? |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2606 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.234.183.131
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:32 am: | |
triathalon was last week ... |
Mind_field Member Username: Mind_field
Post Number: 596 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.21.40.16
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 9:09 am: | |
It really isn't about education or level of intelligence, people who litter just don't care. For them, it's all about me! me! me! They don't understand that the planet is something which they have to respect and share with other people and animals. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 177 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 10:31 am: | |
Makes me wonder what happened to all of those green plastic garbage cans that came about when Kwame was first elected. Those have decreased in numbers considerably. You can't fault litterers too much when the City literally gives you no where to throw out your stuff if you're walking down the street. I know many businesses provide trash cans outside, but many do not as well. |
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa
Post Number: 957 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.90
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 10:34 am: | |
Like the one that was melted down like the Wicked Witch of the West on Jefferson outside of Big Boy last weekend? |
Jjw Member Username: Jjw
Post Number: 136 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 68.33.56.156
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 11:54 am: | |
a majority of that litter comes from car owners and drivers who don't want the crap in the car after they are done with it. |
Sharmaal Member Username: Sharmaal
Post Number: 842 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.33
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 12:46 pm: | |
Well, of course there aren't hany hard facts on who leaves the trash, but it seems to me that Street People are a huge part of the problem. And of course there is the obvious "flyer" problem on weekends. |
Morena Member Username: Morena
Post Number: 440 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 216.45.2.138
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 4:29 pm: | |
Let me from downtown to neighborhoods for a moment. This might sound stupid to some of you but I really think Detroit could offer $10.00 jobs w/o benefits to people and Detroiters would keep neighborhoods and parks clean. Let's say each person works 5 hrs per day x 5 days = $250.00 week. I know it's not much but it gives people a little money in their pocket for food, rent, etc. As for health benefits, the employees could go to any public health care center nearby (put 1 FQHC in every part of the city for a total of 5) for quality health services at very little cost. As for monitoring the workers, put a responsible group in charge for oversight, i.e. - GCDC, WJBA, Motor City Blight Busters, SDBA, DARE, etc. Okay, so here's my bright idea. The city hires 5,000 workers (1,000 per area) at $10.00 for 5 hours per day for 5 days a week x 4 weeks per month x 12 months per year = $60,000,000.00. This amount equates to almost of the city's CDBG funding and accomplishes several things. 1st, people are working and making a little change. Give them a uniform and some pay and workers feel a sense of purpose and pride in their community. 2nd, the neighborhoods/parks get cleaned up and stays clean. Any special circumstances are indentified immediately and reported immediately for city officials to act on. 3rd, the fed's see physical improvements with the money being spent. This is a major issue with the fed's and BDBG funding. 4th, credible community non-profits monitor the workers. This ensures people don't take advantage of the opportunity. Call me crazy but this idea actually works. |
Soulsauce Member Username: Soulsauce
Post Number: 173 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 71.159.22.7
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 5:06 pm: | |
quote:You can't fault litterers too much when the City literally gives you no where to throw out your stuff if you're walking down the street. I know many businesses provide trash cans outside, but many do not as well.
How about holding on to your trash until you can find a proper place to put it? That's what I do. I have a 4 year old who has enough sense not to throw things outside on the ground. He gets the most hurt look on his face when he sees discarded food containers on the ground when we're walking around. One day he just said, "That's DISGUSTING!" I couldn't agree more. |
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid
Post Number: 126 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.161.193
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 5:15 pm: | |
Morena, 60,000,000! Thats alot of money |
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette
Post Number: 69 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56
| Posted on Monday, July 03, 2006 - 7:33 pm: | |
Litter is a metro area problem. Try walking through downtown Royal Oak on a Sunday morning. Ankle deep trash. A friend of mine calls the plastic garbage bags Freeway Ghosts. |
Detroitplanner Member Username: Detroitplanner
Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 63.85.13.248
| Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 12:47 pm: | |
Soul, I don't disagree with you at all, but there are tons of people out there who were not brought up with this sort of mentality. They will throw the crap on the streets if there is no garbage can (heck many won't even use the can!). As far as car drivers littering, that is a matter of police enforcement. Get the word out that the cops will write you up for that and citation you, and the problem will decrease. Its no where near that bad in places where they are not shy about pulling folks over for throwing a cigarette out the window. |
Southwestmap Member Username: Southwestmap
Post Number: 509 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 70.229.231.102
| Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 1:17 pm: | |
There is an expensive tool called a "bag snagger" that was developed by some bright man who is annoyed by all the plastic bags in trees. There is a web site. I understand that spring is the best time for bag snagging: higher visibility and, of course, more bags flying around because of higher winds. |
Deputy_mayor_2026 Member Username: Deputy_mayor_2026
Post Number: 98 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.137
| Posted on Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 1:56 pm: | |
Downtown, or the part of it that I typically see, looks great! MCM, when I read your post I thought it was something Danny C would do, but looked over and realized it was you. |