Huggybear Member Username: Huggybear
Post Number: 226 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.79.113.90
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:14 am: | |
...a hundred times, do you think that other scrappers would scour the area for the brass shell casings and tear the body apart to get the lead bullets out? I mean, these people will do anything to get $2 worth of nonferrous metals - destroy historic structures, expose themselves to asbestos, risk personal injury. |
Gannon
Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 5901 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:26 am: | |
Huggybear, Damn great question. Thank goodness we still have abandoned buildings for them to work on. If and when that desperation increases, where do you think entrepreneurial individuals will then turn for their income?! I believe these folks are the ones who are struggling to earn some cash without attacking another individual directly...I wonder how much desperation it would take for them to cross the line and steal, or rob, or riot. Most of these people cannot and/or will not enter the system 'normally' due to things in their past that will catch up with them should they be 'found'. Scrapping is merely a symptom of a much greater ill... |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 3451 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.209.161.52
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:30 am: | |
scrapping is a sign of the times. Bad economy here in Mich. Not that I excuse them or anything |
Gannon
Member Username: Gannon
Post Number: 5904 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 11:53 am: | |
Me either...but it would be nice if there was a way to take their energetic talents and do the deed officially to a building for their proper income without it being a dragnet for minor criminals and child-support avoiders. I don't support those who are skirting the law, but think that IF they have chosen to stay in this 'occupation' that they are probably among the most 'recoverable' of our citizens. I mean, we know it is not easy or clean work. I'd love to do a survey of the demolition companies that are tearing down our buildings and see how much of their basic labor force comes from the city. Wonder MORE if there could ever be some form of governmental 'cushion' organization that could buffer these folks from immediate prosecution and incarceration as long as they headed in a positive direction?! |
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2
Post Number: 375 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:02 pm: | |
Don't me! Livedog2 |
Paulmcall
Member Username: Paulmcall
Post Number: 713 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 12:10 pm: | |
Scavangers, grave robbers and others of that ilk may deserve pity but not acceptance. You can't live in a city that lets this stuff go on all the time. |
Gistok Member Username: Gistok
Post Number: 2287 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.81.90
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 2:01 pm: | |
Maybe we should be happy they're not into organ harvesting.... |
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2
Post Number: 377 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 2:05 pm: | |
Did you say, I haven't heard anything about Where are the stories about And, why are they Livedog2 |
Dillpicklesoup Member Username: Dillpicklesoup
Post Number: 39 Registered: 05-2006 Posted From: 64.7.188.45
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 4:52 pm: | |
copper miners- a friend of mine use to be in charge of the 5th precinct- and they would frequently haul someone out of the DTE tunnels steam tunnels who had been fried down there trying to mine copper- With all of this energy- maybe they could reopen some of the mines in the up- |
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto
Post Number: 2075 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.29.74
| Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 6:42 pm: | |
that's a great idea! |
Vandykenjefferson Member Username: Vandykenjefferson
Post Number: 7 Registered: 06-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:22 am: | |
I might sound like an idiot here, but I was exploring the Fisher 21 plant today, and ran into two guys scrapping. They seemed like half decent dudes. They said they can get up to $1.25/lb for certain metals. And, personally, I'd rather see these guys get a few bucks and see this metal used again than have it trashed in 20 years, when it is demolished... |
Eric Member Username: Eric
Post Number: 481 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:54 am: | |
I agree you sound like an idiot. How can anyone advocate for the destruction of property? The plundering of these buildings only makes reuse harder, but I guess you forgot about that while your heart was bleeding. I'll bet you they just don't stop at metal they're probably ripping out architectural elements, all over the city you see building beautiful works removed. But I guess it's worth it so these vultures can make a few bucks off our history |
Itsjeff
Member Username: Itsjeff
Post Number: 6098 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 8:58 am: | |
Here's something I don't get to do very often: Kudos to Huggy for using the correct "were" in his headline, instead of the more conventional - but incorrect - "was." If the thing you are supposing is fiction, use "were." If I were president... If a scrapper were shot... |
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey
Post Number: 26 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 63.102.87.27
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 9:05 am: | |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =uVEgdcJCDgE&search=detroit%2C %20abandoned |
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog
Post Number: 507 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 12.47.224.8
| Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:33 pm: | |
The scrappers are getting more and more desperate because of high gas prices. Those old pickups hauling metal are gas hogs. Who know's? They may quit scrapping if gas prices get too high, or resort to horse drawn carts! My neighbor was telling me the other day that 3 or 4 years ago when my house was abandoned, scrappers threw the radiators out the second floor bathroom window and hauled them away for scrap (BTW, they were replaced a couple years ago and now work great ). The scrappers tooling around in the old beat up trucks only care about metal. The folks stealing the architectural details are professionals. |