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Andylinn
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In the news today, just one more reason I feel good about having NOT voted for her...

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060606/M ETRO/606060393

Why couldn't any of the half decent candidates have won the council race?

thoughts?
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Supersport
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, look at the positive side. Let's say she replace Mr Bates who had an out of state employee on his pay roll. :-)
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Naturalsister
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They're both despicable. She IS one of the problems that it is her JOB to alleviate, or completely resolve all together.

later - naturalsister
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Gildas
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More great leadership from the council.
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Pam
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How long til some local media outlet says there is a "Heatwave" on Councilwoman Reeves, and she has "Nowhere to Run, Nowhere to Hide"? :-)

(Message edited by Pam on June 06, 2006)
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Livedog2
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Can it get any worse in Detroit? Just watch and see!

Livedog2
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Rjlj
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can you tell me what Detroit City Council members are model citizens? What are some of their positive accomplishments besides only looking out for themselves? I would like to see if any of these voted officials deserve their position.
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E_hemingway
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Didn't Monica Conyers have to work long and hard hours, knocking on tens of thousands of doors throughout the city to earn her seat on council?
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Itsjeff
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I can think of lots of council members who were standup members of the community. Or at least were free of scandal: Nick Hood, Maryanne Mahaffey, Keith Butler, Sharon McPhail, David Eberhard, Gil Hill, the Cockrell...
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Paulmcall
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Another grandstander who likes to talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Just because she made a few good songs obviously doesn't make her a good community leader.
Maybe she'll be shamed to get her act together.
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Metrodetguy
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Funny, where are the mob calls to go dump trash at Reeves's home (apt)? I guess as long as a slumlord is a Black Detroiter it's ok if "one of our own" does it to us.
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Merchantgander
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quote:

can think of lots of council members who were standup members of the community. Or at least were free of scandal: Nick Hood, Maryanne Mahaffey, Keith Butler, Sharon McPhail, David Eberhard, Gil Hill, the Cockrell...





I agree with everyone on your list except McPhail. I wonder how she is doing on that insurance issue. I'm sure she is earning her 100k salary.
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Rjlj
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Itsjeff, my question is can you tell me who on today's council are stnd up citizens or is it too early to tell? The past is the past, what is the future of the city?
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Andylinn
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the only council member that impresses me AT ALL right now is Ken Cockrell...

Also, I don't much like Kwame Kenyetta (sp?) but am somewhat impressed that he is leading the charge against Matty and the bridge border issue...

we'll see.

.andy.
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Susanarosa
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 1:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Augh! I love you guys but...

It's Cockrel with one "L"
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Itsjeff
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Don't confuse political differences with moral flaws. Councilmembers may vote contrary to your wishes, but that doesn't mean their motives are tainted. Joann Watson makes me cringe, a lot, but I believe her to be ethical.
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Ilovedetroit
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So why don't some of you join Call em Out...they are working to get her removed from office on a recall because she is so bad.
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Andylinn
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Susanarosa - lol, I had it that way (with one L) and then saw that someone else had written it with two, so I changed it... basically i'm awesome.
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Metrodetguy
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Another disingenuous post from "Ilovedetroit". Everyone knows that "Call 'em out" are (also) scumbags, much like yourself.
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Ilovedetroit
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Oh you just don't like Call em Out because they were anti-Hendrix (even though they dislike Kilpatrick they hated Hendrix worse) and now they are after Martha Reeves and Sheila Cockrel. They hold elected officials accountable...while I might not always agree with them and their tactics I respect them for having the guts to stand up for what they believe in. Better than you Metro who hide behind this forum like some "scumbag" to use your words. What do you do for Detroit but bitch?
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Metrodetguy
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So is Martha Reeves "really a man", "Ilovedetroit"? And what about you today, what are you claiming race, gender, residence, occupation, income, political affiliation, event attendance, sexual preference, etc-wise?

"Call 'em out holding public officials accountable" = fringe/radical political group that seeks to advance its own agenda through race baiting, name calling, smear campaigns

So of course you "respect" them, "Ilovdetroit"...birds of a feather

As you orginally claimed, you don't even live in Detroit.
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Ilovedetroit
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Metro - I know about a dozen people personally on this forum and many have been to my home...the know that I live in Detroit. So stop repeating yourself like a retarded minnah bird.
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Metrodetguy
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Sure you do "Ilovedetroit". Just like all your other claims...funny how they usually involving someone being at someone else's home and/or having lunch/dinner with someone
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Susanarosa
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Metro, would you stop beating that damn ol' dead horse?
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Quinn
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Seems to me like she's planning on doing something about it. She could be lying.

I'm not defending her, nor am I defending slum lords, but I don't think she is nearly as bad as 90% of the slumlords out there. She's targeted here for being hypocritcal...and rightfully so.

Metrodet guy, get over Freman LOOSING already! GEESH! You are such a sore loser.

P.S. I doubt martha reeves swindled a shady loan from comerica to buy those properties.

(oh come on...I had to get a dig in)
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Metrodetguy
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Sorry Susanarosa, but when did credibility (or lack thereof) become a "damn ol' dead horse"?
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Metrodetguy
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Right on time Quinn! Straight from "meeting "Ilovedetroit" randomly in a church basement".
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Susanarosa
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quote:

Sorry Susanarosa, but when did credibility (or lack thereof) become a "damn ol' dead horse"?




Um, probably the 75th time you brought it up.
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Ilovedetroit
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Metro - Briefly I thought you were slightly normal a few weeks ago...but that has come undone. You are back on the road to Nutville! Maybe you and Martha can dance in the streets together! I bet in the right dress and hat you can pass for a Vandella?
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Quinn
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det
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Focusonthed
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That animal is clearly alive.

Quick, get my beating stick!
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Shave
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That Quinn is one funny guy. Sorry to gang up on you, Metrodetguy. You bring it on yourself, you know?
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Metrodetguy
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Yeah I know Shave, kind of like your claim that Call 'em out didn't make any money off the Sambo Awards (ignoring their $10 or whatever it was tickets to the event, of course).

Well Susanarosa, that is about the 1750 time "Ilovedetroit" has made a bogus and/or disingenuous post, yet you said nothing, so it's all a wash I guess.

...And I've never thought you were normal nor anything less than a fraud "Ilovedetroit", nor the person that first started posting within minutes of you with the exact same story, Quinn.
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Ravine
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I believe that if you are a member of our City Council, every goddam thing about you is subject to examination and criticism. If you are wrongly slammed, you have more than enough opportunity to publicly defend yourself. If you're not clean as a damned whistle, you should not have run for elected office. The fact that we will vote for someone just because we dug her records is yet another problem. (I work with a young woman who made a weak attempt at running for City Council. She's a ****in' idiot, as far as I can tell, but if she had changed her last name to Tinsley, Hood or Cockrel, people would have voted for her on the basis of "name recognition.")
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Motorcitymayor2026
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ILD,
why the recall on Sheila Cockrel? The 2 Cockrel's are the only 2 council people I would actually trust with anything.
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Trainman
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I talk AND walk the walk. So, please support my cause for DDOT and SMART to post a common set of bus schedules.

My webpages are NOT spam as claimed by someone in DY. They are a loving commitment to help others and build the city of Detroit back up to one million residents to show the rest of the World that DETROIT kicks ass.

http://savethefueltax.org
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Paulmcall
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I'm all for helping out anyone who has to take the bus. Nothing like waiting for one in the cold while going to work or school.
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Ilovedetroit
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I don't remember all the details...they tried to recall her in the past...and I don't know too many people that share your sentiment on either of the Cockrels, however, with that said they keep gett re-elected. I think most people are fed up with CC in general. I am personally pro-District by council so we can elect or un-elect (in four years) those that aren't doing their job - enough of this BS electing by name.
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Barnesfoto
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She's still an improvement over Bates...kinda like having a skin disease is better than having third degree burns.
Another casual use of the word "disingenuous" from Metrodetroitguy
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Ron
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Leave Martha alone! As the article quoted, she ran, in part "because not enough was being done to promote Detroit's musical heritage."

Can't you see she is busy taking care of the City's important business?!? Who cares about a few weed and rat infested properties?
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Metrodetguy
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"Ilovedetroit" you previously claimed to be against council by districts when it was suggested by Hendrix. Disingenuous or dishonest...

And from Barnes we have another casual swipe at someone regardless of the issue in order to attack someone that doesn't agree with his political agenda and previous posts. Disingenuous or just plain dishonest, take your pick Barnes.
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Dillpicklesoup
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yeah- all her renters are going to be dancin in the street when the new property management company takes over- what a crock.
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Ravine
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I'm as much of a judgmental pisshead as anyone, but I think we could afford to give the woman at least five damned minutes to defend herself before we hang her in effigy here. Also, a twenty-four window, in which to scrutinize the press reporting for mis-statements and excess spin, is always a good thing.
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Ray
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From her mouth to God's ear:

Quote:

"Reeves, whose property taxes are current, said the red tape and difficulty working with the city to fix the properties was 'absolutely unbelievable.'"

Well, thank God at least the city's leadership comprehends the problem. I guess it's impossible for the city and its political leadership class to fix it. It must just be ordained by God Himself that the city shall be inhospitable to business.

How many hundreds of thousands of people have to live in grinding poverty before the root cause of Detroit's malaise -- it's incompetent government -- get's fixed.

The employees responsible for managing this apsect of city government should be terminated en mass and the function should be outsourced to India.


<== sick of this region's pathetic excuses for endless cycle of failure.
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Gannon
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Where would the line form for complaint resolution then, Ray?!

That would be one helluva queue...New Delhi all the way to the Spirit of Detroit!!

IF this gets positive action towards streamlining processes within city government, then I'm all for it.

I've heard too many stories of nightmares with the city in so-o many areas that I'm beginning to think it is a disease...that has already infected EVERYONE that gets a city paycheck.

From the nightmares Cafe had to endure before she opened to Eastern Market management keeping unused stalls away from entreprenureal types to morphing standards in building inspections to delays with the health department (Slows and Baile Corcaigh come to mind) to the problems our friends with the 600 Woodward project in simply FINDING their title deed...it seems that I haven't yet found ONE story of a good interaction with anyone who works in the CAY building. (I would be overjoyed to hear a few good stories)

Hell, with Reeves shining some light here who knows what might happen?!

(Message edited by Gannon on June 06, 2006)
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Ilovedetroit
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Oh Metro...I could give a F**K what that hiding in Florida loser from the debt police thinks about council by district. I have a mind of my own and where I once was not sure I have made up my mind. Intelligent life or at least something above an amoeba does think and develop and change their minds over time when exposed to new thought or idea. Obviously you are not quite animal or mineral mostly vegetable as you are always stuck in a rut. How you remember such inane trivial things I don't know.
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Metrodetguy
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"Ilovdetroit" once again caught in another lie.
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Gannon
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Metrodetguy once again caught in the publisher's paradigm...once written, never altered.


Come ON, man, give it up and show a slight bit of merely human SLACK to Ilovedetroit.


It is neither amusing nor enlightening for ANY of the rest of us when you continue to prod this poor person over a very OLD discussion. It is not unlike more than a few people calling me out on the White Face issue time and again. (as if I'm a racist...heh)



If we don't allow some lattitude to learn and grow, how will we EVER improve as a society?!



If you honestly and truly agree with EVERYTHING you've ever posted...even after convincing arguement or additional information proves otherwise...then you are inhuman and probably ready in advance for the rigorous process of sainthood...or the presidency, since we all seem to crave cradle-to-grave unadulterated law-abiding innocence from our elected officials.
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Metrodetguy
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Sorry Gannon, the issue is not nearly as simple as you make it out to be. Whether the "issue" is a change of politics (changing positions on mayoral support, twice, or council by districts)...or much worse, changing stories about one's residence, gender, income level, sexual orientation, race, occupation, event attendance, etc. "Ilovedetroit" has consistently shown him/herself to be dishonest with his/her claims.

COME ON Indeed.
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Gannon
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But even if all that is true...why do you have to pursue this at every turn?

It borders on a psychological disorder with you, and this time it was merely over ILD speaking some opinion...not even a fact.


Who cares what they represent themselves as, unless they are manufacturing details to construct some devious plan to defraud us all.


I just got fed up with reading your relentless (and to me, pointless) attacks on ILD...you apparently need this like the Hatfields need the McCoys.

Fire away!



<<<< running from the crossfire
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Lmichigan
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Gannon, it's no use. Your words are going to fall on deaf ears with them/him. It will take moderation intervention to end this, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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Pjazz
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I realize trying to renovate property in Detroit can be fustrating. I've seen other cities where it's no walk in the park either. Maybe property owners should hold up on buying multiple properties until the ones that they have are solvent.

Blaming the city for not being able to maintain property you own is no excuse to me.
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Ilovedetroit
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Geeee I feel so loved!

Pjazz - I agree with your simplistic but truthful statements 100%...everyone is always looking to blame someone else! Just stand up and say "yep I messed up and this is what I am going to do about it".
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Itsjeff
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I don't understand why she's blaming the City. Is the City somehow impeding her from having her lawn mowed or trash hauled away? Or painting her properties, etc?
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Ilovedetroit
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Itsjeff- I AGREE 100%
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Gannon
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:36 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Itsjeff,

Probably more the case of extreme passive-aggressiveness..."if the city don't respond, then I ain't cleaning up SHIT!"

Classic...
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Pffft
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 9:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

what I don't understand is, why do people buy more property than they can afford to keep up?

How is it an excuse to say, "I'll fix up what I can afford to..." The city should be saying, well then stop buying up buildings...
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Danny
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What can I write? Martha Reeves. Is just playing sneeky with her properties.
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Metrodetguy
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gannon, I have to ask you where are you everytime "Ilovdetroit" attacks me or others? Where were you when "Ilovedetroit" was making posts that were so outrageous that the news media even picked them up and commented on them? Where are you when this person has made constantly changing claims about him/herself as well as political matters?

Spare me the righteous indignation.

Yet you feel passionate enough to come out and critcize me for calling this person out?
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Paulmcall
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I guess unless you are Roger Penske nothing gets done in a hurry in Detroit. Unfortunately, this is why dictatorships happen.
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Ilovedetroit
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Metro - It is ok to call someone out once or twice but you keep saying the same thing over and over and over and over again. Everyone got you the first 50 times. It is ok buddy...there are other things you can pick on me for..try something new itsjeff certainly does he is practically evil haha!
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Goat
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Didn't people think Gil Hill was a bit shady?
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Gannon
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Metro,

I am neither righteous nor passionate on this, just tired.


If what you say it true...I'll try to pay attention to ILD's commentary, but that is rather tough for me.

I don't remember every in-tangible individual, I can only follow someone's handle when I know their face in real life.

I have a big problem with assumed etheric identities so I take each comment within each thread at face value towards the conversation.


SOME stick with me, even back to one of my very first conversations when I challenged Zulu Warrior on something he said regarding race. Although the context stuck with me, I cannot even remember if it was Shave or someone else that brought up my stupid white-face comment...half a year after I had learned that lesson and spoke at great length of my growth.


Unfortunately, if I remember correctly, this person stopped reading my posts because of their extreme reaction to one little comment...so I am not surprised that they didn't know I'd learned.

So, I forgot about them, forgive them their unsubstantiated attacks against me, and have gone on my way as if they never said those things. I only brought it up to prove my point on how I deal with conversations here...and on Hotfudge.


Who cares what was used in some heated discussion months ago...does your continual reminding us of it serve ANY real positive purpose?!


At some point, mother said that if I didn't have anything nice to say about someone to not say anything at all.


Later on, I heard that one should not argue with idiots, since bystanders may not recognize the difference.


This time I was that bystander...and you looked quite like an idiot. It was your turn, I think everyone has had a chance at it...some more successful than others!



Cheers!
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Metrodetguy
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 11:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Ilovedetroit" there's nothing wrong with getting a point here or there wrong, and accepting if someone corrects you...but to have constantly changing stories about one's own race, gender, residence, political affiliations, socio-political stances, income level, occupation, event attendance, sexual preference, etc. is well beyond the norm. Not to mention spreading blatantly false claims that were so outrageous that the media picked it up.

Sorry but you've been caught in far too many flat out lies to be considered credible and I'm going to call you out everytime. If you don't like it, tough.

Gannon, please stop with the disingenuous act. Again, I ask where have you been during "Ilovedetroit's" rampage through credibility? Why are you spending more time questioning me for calling out someone so blatantly dishonest, yet claiming that "you didn't see" and "if it is true" on everything that person said? Come on man, get real.
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Jams
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 1:00 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What happened to any dialogue about Martha Reeves on this thread?

Or could Metro and ILD have their own thread where they could verbally pummel each other to their heart's content, and the rest of us could ignore that stupidity?
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Gannon
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Did you not even READ my post above, Metro??!!


I could read a DOZEN posts from somebody named Ilovedetroit, and not associate a ONE of them with another, let along together with this supposed person whom I've never met.


They are not REAL to me until I shake their hands and look into their eyes.


After that point, I will usually be able to track who has said what with me and when...and whether their story seems to have consistency.




Have you considered that ILD simply has multiple personality disorder? That would explain this person's lack of ability to face up to your attacks...you never know, you might be causing immense suffering when one of their personalities reads one of your fiece attacks.


OR you might simply be helping them spawn NEW personalities in defense of this particular pain. This might be a grand psychological game of whack-a-mole, kinda like your version of chasing terrorists while simultaneously acting in ways that create a dozen new ones.


(let's hope ILD's supposed illness doesn't escalate exponentially, we could suffer a meltdown that would be a hundred times greater that that whole JAL episode...except this one would be largely YOUR fault!!)




Thanks Jams, you reminded me of the OTHER reason I didn't notice ILD's supposed weirdnesses...I ran screaming from the political mega-thread. Remember how I'd cringe in a full-body flinch every time you tried to bring it up from the business side of the bar at the BS Saloon?!



Again, I appeal to you, Metro...whatever bug you have up your keister against ILD...please, please, please channel that energy in a positive direction.


You...and us...will be much the better for it.


Cheers!
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Ilovedetroit
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HAHA I feel so much love with all this talk about me or is I or hmmmm which personality are you talking about (wish my eye would stop twitching) and oooops there goes those flies around my head again.

Metro - Did you ever just stop to think that I just like yanking your chain? And the best part of it is that like a rat to cheese you fall into my trap every damn time! You choose to comment on my posts all the time. You don't have to. I just made a comment above getting active and you went off on one of your rants (again thtat cheese was too tempting)...if you don't like me then ignore me others do...I promise it won't bother or offend me.
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Gannon
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Damn one of you, ILD, would ya just shut UP already?


I had created the best 'out' for you possible...and you're screwing it up!!
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Pam
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Reeves headed to Blight Court:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060607/M ETRO/606070366&SearchID=732470 29082989
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Danny
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Screw that former MOTOWN singer! Reeves os now a CLOWNISILwoman. A leader that she couldn't lead the city of Detroit into the 21st city. She can't even clean up the mess she make while she's fancy rich in the magacondo in Lafayette Park.
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Ilovedetroit
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Gannon - I am not feeling the love now :-( I promise to be good (no my fingers aren't crossed behind my back but my halo is kind of crooked). :-)
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 11:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You may not feel it, ILD, but that MAY be when it is the strongest...I wouldn't speak up if I didn't care.


Halo, huh?
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Metrodetguy
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 11:51 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Once again Gannon it is interesting that you have taken all this time and effort to critcize me, yet you've never "noticed", much less said anything about "Ilovedetroit's" antics.

Again, I appeal to you. Drop the whole "concerned citizen" act. Your continued attack on me for calling something so blatantly obvious out, while continuing to give the whole "supposed" benefit of the the doubt to "Ilovedetroit" is disingenuous.

"Ilovedetroit" once again bad cover at attempting to backtrack. I'm sure you came on here making multiple claims and outrageous stories just knowing that someone would notice and repeatedly call you, all being part of your master plan to yank someone's chain.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

METRO,

What the heck, man?


I SAID the next time I caught something, I'd be diligent to mention it. I haven't noticed anything because I'm not going to spend any time searching out all their posts in the archives simply to make your silly obsessive ass feel any better about your psychological imbalance here.



Other than that paragraph above, please quote SPECIFICALLY where you think I've actually attacked you...let alone continued at it.



Asking someone for peace and quiet in a public space is NOT attacking someone, but if you keep it up I am capable of it...just look over at that Zarquawi thread with my latest response to Karl...he just sent me over the edge.


I vented, spoke my piece, and now I'm moving on. This will NOT keep me from encountering Karl, since disagreements should be able to be resolved by adults, we'll see if he can be one.


I don't really care if you and ILD ever come to any sort of conclusion, but damn, the pollution on each and every thread they post in REALLY makes this place not only uncomfortable, but just plain UGLY for the rest of us.

Of course, some will find it entertaining...I guess you might be a masochist...or sadist...or both...I really don't want to witness this public lashing daily.



I cannot drop the concerned citizen act, I've been here too long...and it is my deepest core nature to be a peacemaker. Lovely how it's working out, huh?!
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Metrodetguy
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Again Gannon, note the efforts that you are taking above. And again Gannon, it's odd that you are looking for "peace and quiet" and railing against the "polution" now (with this matter being relatively tame) as compared to antics that have gone on here in the past (and continue to this very moment). And once again Gannon, I have to ask, how have you "not noticed" far worse things on this forum until something as mild as this.

"Other than that paragraph above, please quote SPECIFICALLY where you think I've actually attacked you...let alone continued at it."

Hmm...maybe a few paragraphs below in your same post...

"I guess you might be a masochist...or sadist...or both..."

Sorry man, but your story just doesn't add up.
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Quinn
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cat
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Ilovedetroit
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Gannon AKA Krystal and Metro AKA Alexis...stop fighting you are both pretty!
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The_aram
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Great action shot from the City Council chambers right there.
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Ilovedetroit
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aram - You do have a sense of humor? You are way to young to have watched Dynasty!
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Andyguard73
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That's what that is? You old folks and your stories! :-)
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Ilovedetroit
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hahaha PLEASE we mid 30 up to mid 40 something gay youth cut our teeth on Alexis and Krystal. Do you realize how many times I practiced my bitch slapping on friends???
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Metrodetguy
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"Ilovedetroit" I'm going to hold you to your age claim of "mid 30s to 40 something". So don't go claiming that you're 25 on another thread in a few days. :-)
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Gistok
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Words of wisdom.... "the person who angers me, controls me".

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