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Supersport
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One more reason why I would never send my kids to a school in Oakland County.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/ news/9321830/detail.html
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Susanarosa
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quote:

Waterford Spinal Column News.




Bwahahahahaha...
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Ron
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Maybe Kwame was right.........
:-)
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Thecarl
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quote:

One more reason why I would never send my kids to a school in Oakland County.




do you HAVE kids, supersport?
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Alexei289
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"police cited him for possession of marijuana"..

i guess he was rewarded for being honest...
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Tayshaun22
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Thecarl, haven't you been READING HIS BLOG?
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Focusonthed
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Yes, because of course, you will find no drugs in Detroit middle schools.

Please, this is a societal problem, it has nothing to do with Oakland, Wayne, or Macomb counties.
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Lilpup
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as if this is anything new - the first time I ever saw pot was when a friend of mine brought joints to school to sell in 7th or 8th grade (late 70s in Ferndale).

I think she was getting a buck a piece.

Her mom was a Detroit police officer living just north of Eight Mile.
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Chitaku
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it isn't anything new, kids will always smoke weed and always drink, it's just how it is. Maybe one day the lawmakers who drain kids allowances for drinking underage will understand that.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Thats a dumb statement
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Chitaku
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Well I guess I could of been more specific. What i'm trying to say is that kids drinking and smoking weed is always going to happen. As long as it is available kids, not all kids of course, but a decent amount are going to at least try. However the laws against underage drinking in this state, are a bit rediculous. In OC in particular they really drain the kids, and many times these kids are safely in their home not doing anything
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Thecarl
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cripes, dope dealing happens in detroit schools too. but what happens far less frequently in oakland county schools compared with detroit schools, is getting shot.

there you go, supersport; i guess regional controversy has been too toned-down for too long.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Well, apparently the laws need to be stricter if the children are still doing it.
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Eric
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Jesus some of you peoples sarcasm detectors aren't working tonight.
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Lmichigan
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Knowing Supersport, don't you guys think he was being tongue-in-cheek? The response to him (and not the issue) is pretty funny. That is, unless I'm confusing him with someone else.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Youre not confused, Lmichigan. Others are!
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Thecarl
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oh. april fool's. that was a real, real good one!
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Tayshaun22
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I hope he was being sarcastic about the kids part...
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Hamtramck_steve
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"you peoples"

Don't even be thinking that.
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Dillpicklesoup
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Don't judge all of Oakland County schools based on a few idiots selling marijuana-
or allegedly selling it-
This article posted on WDIV which is based in Wayne County. Wayne County would be in big trouble without all of those big Oakland County checks that Brooks sends to them-
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Supersport
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Those idiots happened to be middle school kids, who found their drugs in a grownups garage. So you not only need to fear the drug dealing youth up there, but also the adults who are the suppliers. Sounds like a highly efficient drug ring they have going on up there. :-)
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Danny
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YES RON, KING KWAME was right. He had prophesied and behold, suburban white kids are now selling and smoking weed in their public schools.
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Miketoronto
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I am not surprised at all. Studies have shown suburban kids do drugs and have sex more often then many inner city kids.

Infact a study in Toronto found kids in the inner city where must less into drugs, and doing stupid things, then kids in the suburbs.

Suburbs breed boredom, which breeds drug use, etc.


Go out to the small rural towns and its worse. My brother lives in a little town, and you should see the drug problems out there in the so called "country, that is far from the big city ills". My nephews high-school out there has a mega drug problem. Worse then in the city.
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Danny
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Yes Miketoronto,

Your theory is correct. Even in the Amish community in Lancaster, PA. Two Amish kids were caught with weed in the black pants pockets.
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Susanarosa
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I didn't think the Amish had pockets...
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Lmichigan
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Wow, this forum is like a non-stop satire/comedy, the only difference is that many of the characters aren't trying to be funny, which almost makes it more sad than funny. lol Between Danny and Mike, I'll never be short of laughing. Remember, I'm not laughing with you guys, I'm laughing at you. :-)
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Chitaku
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Danny, your daily quotes are absolutely hillarious and bright up my day in the morn! Keep em coming!
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Jenniferl
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I knew what pot was back in first-grade. My elementary school was strategically located between a junior high and a large, wooded park. Every day, my friends and I would see (and smell) junior high kids smoking dope in that park. And yes, this was in Oakland County. When I was a kid, everything I saw or heard that was drug-related involved white people who lived close by, not black people in Detroit.
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Thecarl
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quote:

When I was a kid, everything I saw or heard that was drug-related involved white people who lived close by, not black people in Detroit.




it's true. then, these white suburban kids find themselves over their head in a habit they can't support. they turn to petty theft to finance their habit. then, they become more brazen. burglaries. armed robberies. carjackings. users know they must steal or deal to afford their drugs, and drug networks spring up. they defend their turf by forming gangs. meanwhile, dropout rates soar while graduate competency plummets. the school systems breach decline and go into a freefall. do-gooder kids who hope for a decent life are kept in check by other kids with guns. a world has been created where a kid does not feel safe at home, on the street, or in school. besides, kids are always looking for acceptance, and the culture only continues to widen as otherwise good kids are drawn into the culture. these kids engage in sex too, and become parents well before they are ready, and a new generation begins.

drive through the suburbs. you see it everywhere.
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Lmichigan
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Her point, since you seemed to have missed it unless I missed some internal sarcasm or wording, is that drugs are not exclusively an urban problem. I went to a mostly white school, and drugs were a big problem. The difference is in the games. The urban game is much more dangerous. They have to do the dirty work, the grunt work. While the people at the top have much less to worry about.



(Message edited by lmichigan on June 06, 2006)
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Iheartthed
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Wow. Drugs in the suburbs... who ever thought they'd see the day?!

Next thing you know they'll find that cigarettes cause cancer...
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Danny
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Susanarosa,

Those Amish kids have pockets all right to hid their weed from their parents.
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Danny
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Iheartthed,

The drug culture had been the American suburbs since the late 1980s. Take the drugs from the inner city ghettos and push it the suburbs and what do you get. Hard core white suburban kids to become junkies overnight. The street pharmacists like it so much so they make it a fast growing booming business, setting up hidden drug houses in a lovely cookie cutter home, and quickly spread their drugs throughout the burbs, ex-urbs and the of course the inner city ghettos.
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Miss_cleo
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Take the blinders off guys, it all started in the city and worked its way out.
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Zulu_warrior
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Damn Ive said this so many times!

Drugs in Detroit are a regional problem.....Get out of the Cave people...
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Danny
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Zulu_warrior,

We're already out from our caves.
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Lisafree60
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And it matters where it started, or where it went?? It is a problem..period. Pointing fingers helps no one. Parents, where are you??
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Warriorfan
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I don't think Oakland County has much to worry about in the way of drugs. Some spoiled teenagers getting high isn't the problem, it's the people who break into cars and homes and rob liquor stores to pay for their next fix, that's the problem. Plus, how many fentanyl deaths did Oakland County have in the past nine months, like about a dozen or so? Wayne County had nearly 200 people die from it. Drugs may be a regional problem, but certain parts of this region seem to have a WAY bigger drug problem than other parts.
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Jelk
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Sport is right. No one ever smokes pot in Detroit. And the six needles I picked up during the last Cass Park clean-up, those were left behind by forgetful diabetics.

"They are just as bad or worse" is one hell of a winning arguement.
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Lmichigan
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Again, it's quite obvious why drugs effect poorer communities, as these communities have many more problems to deal with than wealthier communities. Again, the poor pay the price for a habit enjoyed by many rich and poor. This is nothing new; it's been going on since the beginning of human existence. I'm not sure why people want to get into the argument of comparing drug use among the wealthy and poor. IMO, it's nearly apples to oranges. The poor have always had to do the dirty work to supply the wealthy.
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Supersport
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Jelk,

There are a lot more diabetics than people realize, glad you see where I'm coming from. lol Props to Danny for the Amish pot smoker reference too, it's about time somebody outted Ishmael.
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Newlaster
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Why is this a news story?
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Iheartthed
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Danny, please spare me that crap. Drugs were in the suburbs well before the late 1980s. Everybody not wearing rose-colored glasses should know this already.

Say what you want about the quality of education, or "safety" (because kids get shot in the suburbs too) of inner city schools, but as I witnessed in college, your kid is more likely to be a junkie if s/he grew up in the suburbs.
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Iheartthed
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Let me add that Nancy Reagan didn't start D.A.R.E. because she was worried about the inner-city. She started D.A.R.E. because of all the white suburbanites I see trying to get their fix at the dope houses on the Southfield service drive and Schoolcraft after dark.
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Danny
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Iheartthed,

Show me some proof. For the proof is got is based on the data from the U.S. Almanac.
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Iheartthed
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Show you proof? History is your proof. You ever heard of Woodstock? What did they do at Woodstock? Where were the majority of the attendees from Woodstock? They weren't from the ghetto, I'll tell you that much.

How did John Belushi die?

How did Judy Garland die?

How did Janis Joplin die?

These people weren't fishing around inner-city ghettos to get their fix.

This is a good read about drug history in general:

http://soc.qc.cuny.edu/Staff/l evine/CRACK-IN-AMERICA-CH1.htm l

I bet you learn something in there that you won't find in an almanac...
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Miss_cleo
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These people weren't fishing around inner-city ghettos to get their fix.


no their agents/people who brought the stuff to them were
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Lmichigan
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Regardless, it's quite apparent to almost everyone that drugs have been in the suburbs for years, but the problems always hit the poor and inner-city the hardest, as they have much more to deal with. Those in most suburbs are much more able to pay for treatment, as well.
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Iheartthed
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Our suburban counterparts also aren't demonized because of it...
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Citylover
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The availability of drugs is so much more open in cities and Detroit is like any other city in that way.

I knew someone(dead now) that used to travel with his girlfriend to different cities while she was working as an educational consultant.He used to say if he could find Martin Luther King Blvd he would find the drugs he wanted.

So in Detroit just going to certain areas and snooping around is gonna get anyone seeking drugs what they want.Sometimes they get ripped off or they get fake drugs but eventually they get what they came for.

I don't think the same can be said for a typical suburb like Dearborn or Birmingham and I know the same can not be said out here in Ann Arbor.

It is perhaps analogous to streetwalkers compared to escort services.Both (sex, drugs) are available everywhere it is just so much easier to find and more in the open in cities.
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Lmichigan
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I think that's a given, CL. But, it doesn't mean that city residents necessarily buy anymore drugs than suburban residents. In fact, a study was just released on the 9th that showed, for instance, that blacks teens (out of hispanic and white teens) were the least likely group to report using alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines, and ecstasy:

http://www.webmd.com/content/A rticle/123/115102.htm?pagenumb er=2

There are some other intersting facts in there. It kind of goes against the idea that somehow that inner-city teens are more likely to use drugs because of better access. Again, they do the grunt work of pushing and moving the drugs, the much more dangerous part of the drug trade. Suburban teens (particular white suburban teens) are just more likely to use them.
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Chitaku
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I guess the message here is the suburban kids just know how to party!
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Miss_cleo
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for instance, that blacks teens (out of hispanic and white teens) were the least likely group to report using alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, heroin, methamphetamines, and ecstasy:



and I believe it cause, well, kids are just so damn honest.
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Danny
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And the white kids are catching up.

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