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Jasoncw
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Hello, I'm making this building for the game Sim City, but I don't have any pictures of the base to work off. Does anyone have any pictures? It would be a big help.

Here's progess so far:

http://img225.imageshack.us/im g225/9491/211wfa2er.jpg

Right now, only the glass has been textured, and the entire thing is still in progress.

(Message edited by jasoncw on May 25, 2006)
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Gistok
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Jason, I think that the base is (like you show in your partial base) nothing more than a lot of square columns around the perimeter, with the ground floor set back from the columns... This is from memory, and it may not be 100% accurate.
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Supersport
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...says the guy who probably has a model built of legos. :-)
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Jasoncw
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actually, I recall that this building WAS made out of legos by someone! I don't think the legos are fine enough for me to use as a reference though.

I figured the base has that kind of setback, since it seemed to be the thing to do in the 60's. I might just have to work off that if no one has any pictures.
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Lmichigan
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The ground floor is set back, but not so far that the glass lobby still can't be seen from that angle, I don't think.
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Mikem
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I'm not good with the CBD; is this the one?

Detroit Bank & Trust
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Aiw
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That's the one.

Here's all I have to offer:

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Bvos
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As you can tell it's typical Modernist on the ground floor: two story glass lobby set back from the main facade.
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Mikem
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See if these stimulate your imagination:













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Ray1936
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Stimulates my memory that the business world is terribly boring.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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somewhat of a hijack here, what businesses are currently in the 211 building??
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Detroitplanner
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what a bunch of horrid drones, I'd love to have the exec's office though!
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Itsjeff
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211 West Fort houses some large federal agencies, including U.S. Bankruptcy Court and the U.S. Attorney's office. They also have public sector tenants.
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Itsjeff
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Here's a pic I took in 2004 when they were setting up for "The Island."

211
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Itsjeff
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Count the ashtrays in those pics. I see 10 on the conferene table alone, and 4 in the executive's office. Awesome.
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Jasoncw
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!!!

yes, that's exactly the kind of picture I need, thanks. :-)

does anyone have one of the back half?
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Gistok
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Wasn't the back half of the building attached to the building next door... a Detroit Bank & Trust (Comerica) branch office?
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Itsjeff
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The ground floor of the back half of the tower is just a garage door leading to the private parking section.
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Wolverine
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oh god, I'd hate to work at one of those desks.
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Bvos
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Thanks for the great pics MikeM. Where do you get all this great stuff from?!

The good old days and the good old boys! Back when women knew their place and men were men... Thank god for progress.
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Mikem
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I found it in the back of a used book I had bought. The pics are from a brochure celebrating the opening of the new building, whenever that was.

Yes, the good old days. Cradle-to-grave job security and benefits even for non-union employees. I wonder how long the ferns in the boardroom survived with all the cigar smoke in there?
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Itsjeff
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Did you notice the construction of the Pontchartrain in the background of the first pic?
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Mikem
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Ponch
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The_rock
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211 W. Fort----not bad, but a far cry from its more modest partner across the street---311 W. Fort.
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Mikem
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For those who like the details:

Welcome

history

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Your cigar smokers:

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"The new Detroit Bank & Trust main office combines the first seven floors of the 26-story Detroit Bank & Trust Building with the adjacent 3-story building to form Detroit’s most modern financial headquarters. The combination is designed to help our more than 2000 employees in all of our 66 offices do a better job of helping you. The pictures on these pages provide only a sample of the many ways this new main office complex can help serve your banking and trust needs. For instance:

The young ladies pictured at top, left, are processing checks at speeds that permit handling as many as a half-million checks per day.



Through this facility, and the banks of computers shown in the adjacent picture, we bring space-age efficiency to banking. Individual accounts are kept up to date faster and we can offer better service to our correspondent banks.

computers

Skillful guidance of Detroit Bank & Trust’s fundamental policies is assured by its Board of Directors. Meeting regulady in the Board Room shown at lower left, they shape the plans that culminate in the progressive action needed to meet the changing financial needs of this great and growing community.



The physical protection of customers’ deposit dollars, as well as their personal valuables, is a prime function of a bank. Here, at top, right, in the spacious safe deposit area we see graphic evidence of the kind of modern protection offered to our customers. Near this same area is the guard room from which members of the Bank’s security force are directed.

vault

The bank officer pictured on the telephone (at center right) may be completing the details of a million-dollar loan to one of Detroit’s major industrial firms; or he could be offering advice on the handling of accounts receivable for a women’s dress shop. Such transactions, large and small, are daily occurrences in our Commercial Loan department. In its handsomely appointed area on the first floor of the new Detroit Bank & Trust Building, this department is the nerve center of financing affecting businesses throughout Detroit, the nation and the world.



Our Trust Department is one of the nation’s largest and its new quarters on the third floor are among the nation’s finest. Here is found the personal, experienced counsel in all aspects . . . executor and trustee under your Will, complete estate and advisory service, pension and profitsharing planning for individuals and businesses . . . that has made Detroit Bank & Trust a leader in this field."



indian
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Itsjeff
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"You outta know
a Detrot banker.
Better."
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Mikem
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"Executive offices (one is shown above) provide the space and comfort required for the day-by-day direction of Michigan’s oldest bank. Furniture and furnishings are graceful and functional with ample room for visitors and meetings.

Reception areas such as the one outside the executive offices are numerous and well-located for customer convenience.



Privacy is an invaluable asset for the confidential handling and expert direction of our customers’ financial affairs. The conference room shown at lower right is just one of many throughout the building that provide this extra touch of service.

meeting

Thus, whatever your banking and trust needs you’ll find our new main office complex enables our entire organization to make an increasingly valuable and helpful contribution to your financial welfare, achievement and peace of mind. Come in soon and let us show you how."

If you have already moved to the suburbs by now, we have you covered there too:

Schoolcraft
Greenfield
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Matt_the_deuce
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"If you have already moved to the suburbs by now, we have you covered there too:"

This says it all...
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Lt_tom
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Nice furniture...looks like someone's already been to IKEA
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Jasoncw
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Thanks for the help everyone. I'm going away for the weekend, but if I can get a picture of the back half of the building I can have it done by Monday.
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Commodore64
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That "suburb" bank on the top is a Comerica office now. Is that what happened to Detroit Bank and Trust?

I love old time offices! Who needs cubes?
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Itsjeff
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Yes, Detroit Bank & Trust changed its name to Comerica.
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Great stuff Mikem. Thanks.
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Hysteria
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Jason, do you have any other Detroit buildings you've created for SimCity? I'm sure many would love to see them (including me).
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Pam
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quote:

I love old time offices! Who needs cubes?




I looked at those pics and had the exact opposite feeling- grateful I have a cube. :-)
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Gotta love those dinnerplate/hubcap sized ashtrays on the conference tables. Imagine those conference rooms as smokefilled rooms back in the olden tymes.

Those check processing machines look like they weigh 500 pounds each!

Check out the executive sitting at the computer bank. If that guy, in his 50s in this photo, was actually a computer guy back then (and not merely an exec posing for a photo) he would have been of the proper vintage to have worked with some of the early greats in the development of the modern electronic computer.

Re Detroit bank and trust branch offices, there was a nice one, two story, red brick with a curved corner on GR a few blocks west of greenfield. It's modest ouside held a particularly nice marble lobby (no where near as nice as the imposing NBD up the street a bit at Fenkell and GR but nice nonetheless).

Those suburban branch offices look cool too.
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Jasoncw
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Just bumping this thread incase someone who didn't see if before has some pictures (of 211 w forts parking garage entrance).

Also, I've been working on One Woodward Avenue, and I thought some people would enjoy seeing it. It's still in progress though.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img 48/9274/onewoodwardpreview59wn .jpg
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7even
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Are you design these buildings for a new Sim City game, or just for fun? If it is for a new game would Detroit be a scenario like Flint was in Sim City 2?
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Looking great Jason. You can knock these buildings off like no other. I still have a 50% finished Ford Field, 40% finished Dime building, and 75% finished Hudsons building. I wish I had the ability to actually complete them.
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Jasoncw
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7even: nope, these are for Sim City 4 (the current Sim City). When I'm done with it, I'll be uploading it to www.simtropolis.com (it's been down lately though), and if you have the game, and if you make a free account at the site, you can download it. I've already made the Detroit Free Press Building, and it's there. I've started the Vinton Building, but I'm waiting for it to be renovated or for what's going to be changed before I continue.

Here's a picture of the Free Press Building: http://img480.imageshack.us/im g480/7313/dfppreview0cw.jpg

and the Vinton Building (still a work in progress): http://img377.imageshack.us/im g377/1855/vintonprev4da.jpg

Wolverine: thanks :-). If you can finish all of the modeling for the Hudsons building, and if you can get it so I can open it in gmax, then I can do the texturing and finish it up.
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Itsjeff
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I'd say you got the Vinton dead on accurate as it is.
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Jasoncw, I love the work you've done with Simcity 4. I'm hooked on that game and I've pulled and loaded all of the buildings you've made into my game. I especially love the "growable" buildings you've done. Thanks!
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Yeah, Jason. Cool stuff.
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Jasoncw
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thanks!

itsjeff: But I don't know if the black base will be rennovated to something different, or what modifications will happen to the back for the parking. Also, there's supposed to be a new sign and lighting going on too.
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Itsjeff
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Jason, knowing the investors as I do, I think you could safely fill in any blank spaces with beer can pyramids.
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Or girl robots.
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What's wrong with beer can pyramids?
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Itsjeff
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True.
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211 WEST FORT STREET BUILDING.
Fort Street and Washington Blvd., Detroit.
Built 1965. Harley, Ellington, Cowin and Stirton, Architects.

Tinted floor-to ceiling windows fit into the cast concrete frame, giving the bldg. a simple and dignified character. To form a small plaza, the bldg. is set-back on the lot in a style of urbanist planning used in that era.

In 1965, the AIA award jury noted that the landscape placement of the bldg. was "an excellent solution to a difficult site."

In all of jjaba's research, no mention is made of Itsjeff's ashtrays, but they sure do standout in interior shots in light of today's practices in such hermetically sealed office blocks.

Building owners and managers are even forbidding smoking in exterior private spaces today. jjaba was recently in the Tampa airport, observing smoking cages on patio spaces in waiting rooms.
They look like big dog kennels.

Being asthmatic, jjaba appreciates the movement away from smoking in buildings or even outdoor open-air places.

jjaba, Westsider.
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or girl pyramids made out of beer robots.
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quote:

ikea?
Nice furniture...looks like someone's already been to IKEA




Actually is *IS* nice furniture, but definitely a step or twenty up from IKEA! Those armchairs in particular are an Eero Saarinen design for Knoll, and one of those new right now runs you about a grand.

And those sofas in the waiting room and executive office? Florence Knoll, new right now runs you $7000 (or up to about $11,600 in a premium leather).

I shit you not.

(Message edited by dialh4hipster on June 05, 2006)
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Gumby
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Jasoncw

I know it isn't exactly Detroit but I would love to see you take on the Mott Foundation Building up here in Flint. It is like a mini limestone Guardian Building. Considering it was originally mde for the Union Guardian Bank it mkes since that they are similar in style. I would be more than happy to provide you with any pictures that you would need.

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/b u/?id=126054
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Hysteria
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Gumby,

I see the Mott is the second tallest building in Flint. What are your thoughts on the tallest building, Genesee Tower(s)? I haven't been to downtown Flint before and I don't think Genesee Tower was featured in 'Roger & Me' (my only vision of the once booming Flint) ... I don't really like it.

(Message edited by HYSTERIA on June 05, 2006)

(Message edited by HYSTERIA on June 05, 2006)
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Gumby
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It is an ugly building as it stands. The current owner has been fighting with the city bout what to do with it. From what I understand there are plans out there to strip the facade off of it back to the steel and replace it with a much more attractive one with reflective glass (I was told this by the architect who did the drawings) but the problem is that the owner Kumar Vemapaulli's (sp?) big plan is to paint it black and white. As ong as he owns it, it is gonna be vacant.


It was built for the local main office for NBD in 1969 nd while it is ugly I would hate to see it become a flat parking lot.


Believe it or nt it is called Genesee Towers even though it is one structure. It is plural because it is one tower stacked upon another (Parking Garage and then building) You can see the gap in between them where all the mechanical equipment is placed.
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Jasoncw
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Actually, the Mott Foundation building is one of my favorite buildings, but I'm trying to do the area of downtown where these other buildings I've been doing are.

I don't like Genesee Towers too much though. I think adding new glass will make it look ok for another 30 years, but in the end it's still an ugly building. At least in my opinion.

I still need a shot of 211 West Fort Street's parking entrance in order to finish it. ;)
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 11:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, whether you like 60's architecture, or not, Genesee Towers is probably one of the less attractive examples of that era of architecture, this is not even to mention how shoddily it was built (i.e. concrete facade literally falling off, pipes bursting causing water damage...). This is one building that would probably be better off demolished and put out of its misery. That, or reclad it and redo, entirely, the plumming and other mechanics. But, the current owner doesn't have the money for any of that.
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Gumby
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:12 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very true Lmichigan. But the architect who did the reclad drawings told me that the interior is still in pretty good condition. It has only sat vacant for about 10 years now. We don't have the scraping problem up here like you guys in Detroit have. Our vacant buildings seem to be in pretty good shape. Outside of the Durant Hotel and various houses out in the neighborhoods the buildings don't really even have broken windows.
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Gumby
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:26 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plus more and more the store fronts are being redone to encourage new retail to accomodate the new housing going up downtown.
FCT

The white tile building had been boarded up for years, it is now having its storefront spruced up and the white tiles, left over from its days as Michigan Medical Supply, will be replaced with a much more asthetically pleasing facade. There ar like 4 or 5 apartments in the upper floors of the building that currently access from the alley but must use the stairs in the retail area. The owner is planning to remedy this by putting a residential hall way in his building next door.
The Flint City T-Shirt building next door will have the ugly black bricks, left over from when it was the Flint Beauty College, replaced with a more fitting glass store front.
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Gumby
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The architect who did the drawings for Genesee Towers is the same guy who is doing this restoration.

First Street Lofts

So I have to assume it would look pretty good.
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Gumby
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry for the threadjack but you get me talking about Flint and I don't stop.
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Jjaba
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gumby, with 1244 posts, we cut you some slack.
Flint will rise again...

jjaba.
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Hysteria
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Posted on Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 11:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Absolutely.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Wednesday, June 07, 2006 - 12:38 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Like most of Michigan's inner-city revitalizations, Flint's has definitely impressive. I need to make it back up there some time soon. I was last there in 2004.
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Gumby
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Thanks for the slack guys. Back to the discussion of 211 I will try to get that picture of the parking garage entrance as well as some pics of the ground floor for jasoncw on friday.
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Jasoncw
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Super cool! Also see if you can get where the building connects to the building next door. I won't be making the building next to it anytime soon (probably never at all), but I'd like to see the connection so I can figure out how to cut it off.
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Gumby
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Posted on Thursday, June 08, 2006 - 12:58 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

will do
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Jasoncw
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Nevermind, I was able to get down there to take a picture. It's a good thing that I did too, because if I had just guessed it would have turned out pretty differently than how it realy is.
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Gumby
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I will still post you some of mine as well. Sorry I havn't posted them yet I have been training all weekend at my new job. 12 hours on saturday and 8 hours today. I will post them soon.
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Hysteria
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 7:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gumby = hard worker

:-)
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Gumby
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Posted on Sunday, June 11, 2006 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I am. :-) It has just been a while since they have paid me for it, stupid internships.
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Jasoncw
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Posted on Monday, June 12, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks, I won't work on that part untill you post them. :-)

Today I started working on the fountains in the front, and they're almost done.

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