  Eastside Member Username: Eastside Post Number: 860 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.246.10.58 |
Local 4 just can't leave well enough alone... http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=2006605190319 | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7431 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
Ted's? I don't believe it, not for a second.  | ||
Hoog Member Username: Hoog Post Number: 620 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.59.9.34 |
No way! Ted's? I don't believe it! | ||
Dialh4hipster Member Username: Dialh4hipster Post Number: 1621 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.250.205.35 |
Yeah, Club Inuendo is a serious problem. We all know how violent those gays can get! | ||
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog Post Number: 370 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.220.142.7 |
Damn Proof ruining it for the rest of us... | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1824 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
I thought it was a big Ad for the establishments, not an investigation. (Message edited by ndavies on May 19, 2006) | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 3352 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.252.68.130 |
Shhhh, these are secrets! | ||
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog Post Number: 372 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.220.142.7 |
That story sucks big time. | ||
Reetz12 Member Username: Reetz12 Post Number: 54 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 216.144.213.130 |
Pass the damm law to stay open later! | ||
Harmonie Member Username: Harmonie Post Number: 581 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 198.109.32.15 |
I second that Eastside. What I think is interesting is that just a few months ago there was talk about allowing bars to be open until 4am. How are the bartenders going to get a chance to party after they get off with no afer hours clubs? | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 63 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
seriously... sometimes, no all the time, i feel that we still live in a puritanical state, what with our restrictions on "sin items" and deep connections between church and governemtn. what the hell gives? let customers and owners make up their own choice. bars should be allowed to close when they wish, and people should be able to buy booze whenever they please... ESPECIALLY ON SUNDAY... | ||
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936 Post Number: 577 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139 |
Michigan's liquor laws all date back to the immediate post-prohibition era, c. 1933. Most of them are ridiculous in today's age. Beer and liquor are sold/served 24/7 here in Vegas, and it's not a problem. I don't think we have any more a DUI problem than Michigan has. | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 2465 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 72.25.177.194 |
Ray, after all those slots/tables who has enough left to gas up the car? No wonder low dui's | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1355 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
MADD/SADD have a lot of pull along with the insurance companies. | ||
Dan Member Username: Dan Post Number: 1221 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.47.194.247 |
It's alright, Ted is called Baltimore Lunch, so the secret is still safe. The cops will never know. | ||
Jaredrich Member Username: Jaredrich Post Number: 7 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.39.74.130 |
all that this will lead too, with the strong arm tactics suggested in the column, will be more closed doors, more vacant structures, and new blind pigs springing up in new locations. Instead of fixing the issue, it seems they think it's more fitting to hit these bars so hard that they have to padlock and close them. So instead of not being an after hours spot, it's nothing... not a business at all. This sin't going to curb crime at all, it's just going to move somewhere else. We need to work on more pertinent issues like new license plates. | ||
Treelock Member Username: Treelock Post Number: 119 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.192.27.161 |
freep once again displaying its puritanical streak with this story. | ||
Treelock Member Username: Treelock Post Number: 120 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 24.192.27.161 |
freep once again displaying its puritanical streak with this story. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10095 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
What I found ironic is that a quick internet search shows both writers residing right here in Detroit. More likely than not, it wasn't the first time they've been to afterhours joints. | ||
Erikto Member Username: Erikto Post Number: 373 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.228.108.172 |
Hmm, it seemed fitting I mention just getting home from my city's best after-hours, conveniently located 2 minutes by bike away from my place... early tonight! The cops shut it down after a few noise complaints. On the one hand, drunks talk too loudly right outside the front door, on the other hand, a lot of uptight people seem to buy condos in vibrant areas that are going to have some noise. If your hang-out is surrounded by gentrification, do everyone a favour and use your indoor voice outside an after hours joint. | ||
623kraw Member Username: 623kraw Post Number: 907 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.224.200 |
Legalize all the victimless "crimes", and the homicide rate will no longer be a concern... | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1358 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
Too funny! Do not fool yourself, they know where everyone is located. Kwame's elimination of Vice/Morality will only make them even more unsafe. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 5804 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
Um, the only time I was IN Ted's, I recognized TWO cops off-duty...livin' it up. Who's gigging who here? Everyone knows what is going on if they pay attention for even a moment. | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1359 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
Vice/Morality and regular cops got along like Cops and Internal Affairs. Vice/Morality loved to raid those places with plenty of cops and firefighters inside. | ||
Spaceboykelly Member Username: Spaceboykelly Post Number: 146 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.28.145 |
This article is incredibly stupid. For one thing NYC, and Chicago have afterhours bars. While serving until 4 am is not exactly legal in Detroit, it's a relatively harmless practice that is, in a well... nearly legal, and yes, taxable way, drawing people into Detroit. Tackling an afterhours gay bar is a pretty lame attempt at fixing Detroit's gun violence/ghetto culture problems. Isn't there nearly unanimous support [among policymakers and Detroiters] for legal afterhours liquor licenses within the city and inner-ring suburbs? | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1361 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
Uhh, that is not the same thing. NY and Chicago allow sales until 4am. That is not afterhours. | ||
Spaceboykelly Member Username: Spaceboykelly Post Number: 147 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.246.28.145 |
Not all places in NYC and Chicago can serve until 4 am, but those cities make accomodations for clubs that would like to. I didn't say it was the same thing. I was saying it isn't a big deal, and that other cities legalize something that should already be legal. The problem is not late night bars. [P.S. I just returned from Chicago yesterday, and some bars advertise "afterhours" hours.] | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 752 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 68.60.177.56 |
It's going to get worse if we elect another republican Dick to be governor - you know how those west state Dutch reformers are. Prohibition - it's back! | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1364 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
But many are the problem, the drugs, prostitution and other illegal activities that take place are a very big problem. | ||
Johnnny5 Member Username: Johnnny5 Post Number: 251 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 71.227.95.4 |
I've been to a few after hours places in Detroit and the level of "shady" and illegal activities was almost always higher than the surrounding establishments. I have no problem with extaending the serving time, but it will solve nothing. The problem is changing closing time to 4am will just shift the rush to 2 hours later. The afterhours joints will then start getting busy at 4 instead of 2.. Which may put their patrons on the roads while everyone is on their way to work. | ||
Gannon Member Username: Gannon Post Number: 5806 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.236.198.22 |
Actually it spreads the traffic out over the entire morning...there is always a lag between three o'clock and six. | ||
Fjw718 Member Username: Fjw718 Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 38.117.242.163 |
Actually, all places in NYC can serve till 4am. Clubs and the likes that wish to go past 4 must get permission from the State Liquor Authority. The only time of the week no alchol can be sold in the entire state is Sunday Morning from 4am to 12 noon. But just like detroit, we have afterhours spots that will stay open till 6, 7, or 8...... (Message edited by fjw718 on May 23, 2006) | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10105 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Just watched Channel 4's undercover investigation of the bars, makes me sick! Don't these do-gooders have anything better to do? Some rapper gets capped, which he seems to have brought upon himself. Now they use "He was gunned down," in their story? Gunned down...are kidding me? Sounds like he got what he had coming and now the afterhours places are safer than before. Don't fool yourself, if they crack down, it won't last long. Soon things will be back to normal and the police will be worrying about much more important things. The media has a nice way of fucking things up when there isn't much to report on. (Message edited by supersport on May 23, 2006) | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 1004 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
As dumb as I think they are, they are illegal, no? Take your chances, but don't bitch if you get caught or they get shut down. My opinion, if a business wants to take that risk, either change the law or close shop, even if it means the end of a viable business. Follow the law and you can stay. Simple as that. No different than any other business operating illegally, inside the city or elsewhere. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 2152 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.72.192 |
I agree with those who say Michigans Liquor laws are archaic (going back to 1933!)... For any of you who have ever been to Germany, they make some absolutely dynamite brandy chocolates. The ASBACH-URALT brand of German Cognac in bottle shaped chocolates and the more famous bean shaped chocolates are WONDERFUL!!!! The Michigan Liquor Control Commission usually confiscates them from local gourmet stores that carry them (but not those that don't have a liquor license!). I order them (cool wather months) from a company in Florida that imports them from Germany. They are also available in Las Vegas. But around Chrismas they are available in (unnamed) Michigan stores, and also available at Schwab's Deli in Windsor. These are a "must try" specialty..... brandy truffles, brandy filled chocolate cherries, praline brandy chocolates, coffee flavored brandy chocolates, brandy filled easter eggs.... (damn, drooling on my keyboard again..) | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 2557 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 68.230.22.99 |
Gistok, do you know of any after-hours places where they're serving brandy chocolates tonight? Also DOMK, haha. I think Costco sells some variation of these beginning in August/September and thru the holidays, in the liquor section. I get 'em for my Mom each year - strictly for medicinal purposes | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 515 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 71.159.22.4 |
Geez, pass the law already. Let the public have some fun. |
