  Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2770 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41 |
Tomorrow the NFL holds its draft. Where do you think the Lions will go with their choices...? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/ draft06/news/story?id=2423861 | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.201.177.57 |
they better go with Huff.....i'm tired of Millen's surprise choices. | ||
Publicmsu Member Username: Publicmsu Post Number: 633 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 136.182.2.221 |
Charlie Huff, the old knuckleballer from Texas? Excellent choice for the Lions! | ||
Viziondetroit Member Username: Viziondetroit Post Number: 372 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 65.42.23.2 |
Will the choices even matter.. if coaching and management still sucks... | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 393 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.201.177.57 |
DeAngelo Williams is the steal of this draft........I believe he will be comparible to LT, if he gets a chance to play his first year. | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2771 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.251.27.41 |
ESPN mock draft on Live TV last night had the Lions picking Matt Leinert if he fell that far in the draft.... waddu dink? | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 209 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72 |
Which WR's are available? I mean we can't pass up on another one of those! | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2407 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
If the Leinert pick fell into the laps of the Lions, I'd be on the horn trying to trade it away and getting additional picks with it. I just don't have the confidence in the Lions' organization to groom a QB; we all saw what they did to Harrington. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 216 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72 |
I think the saints want leinert | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 1040 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
I think the Lions are sandbagging everyone. They are looking to upgrade their offensive line in a major way. This coach wants to run the ball, and they aren't going to do that without some help up front. If Leinert comes their way, I expect a big trade. | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 849 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.245.64.53 |
ATT: CORNBREAD LOVERS! You pick the MOST talented player available at the time of your pick__ regardless if it is a QB, receiver, DB, TE, punter or whatever. You don't build championships thru draft picks! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 1044 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
You don't build championships thru draft picks! Actually you do. We've just never been privileged enough to witness it because we're Lions fans. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4832 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
No you don't. You pick the most talented player to fill a position on your team in which your depth is thin or nonexistant. If the most talented player on the board is a quarterback and you already have an established veteran starter, you don't pick the QB. You pick the running back who's second on the board to fill your hole in the backfield. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 776 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146 |
No matter who we pick, no matter how talented that are, we will ruin them. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2409 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Super D- I'm not one to disagree with you often when it comes to sports and cornbread but on this one I'm gonna have to disagree with ya. An example would be if Indianapolis had the pick and alluva sudden a Leinert or Vince Young happens to fall into your pick. Seeing as how you've got a Peyton Manning there's no way you could pick a QB- you'd either trade the pick or get a need for position. Your draft pick has value and it shouldn't be squandered. With the Lions, they have so many holes to fill it just might not seem as obvious and obviously our drafting history hasn't exactly proven their drafting prowess either. | ||
Ndavies Member Username: Ndavies Post Number: 1765 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 129.9.163.105 |
LOL http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c om/multimedia/photo_gallery/20 06/04/20/gallery.nfldraftbusts /index.2.exclude.html | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 851 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.245.64.53 |
Yes, you can trade down or up or for more later picks, but you still pick the best player at the time of your pick!...... If you drop down to the third round__ for christ sake you still pick the most talented player at that pick. This ain't baseball, where you have a farm club. If you draft the most talented player at the time of your pick, then you can maneuver the choice however you like__ for free agents, trades, etc. Man! 'yall-done-left' some CORNBREAD burning in the oven!  super d(motordetroit) (Message edited by super_d on April 28, 2006) | ||
Jimelnino Member Username: Jimelnino Post Number: 409 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.250.43.213 |
Now I'm craving some cornbread... Super_D's right, you can draft for need, but not if someone like Leinart falls right into your lap, you HAVE to take that. The problem for us right now is we have 4 QBs already, plus Joey (he doesn't count as a QB ) but I still say you take him and trade someone. Other than that, take the top defensive guy, and get soem O-Liners in the later rounds FOR THE LOVE OF GOD! | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2410 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Playing devil's advocate here but the flipside of this debate would be WHY would Leinert drop down this far? Obviously there are eight other picks before him- why didn't they take him? Again, if that were me on the clock I'd trade down and get some more picks because obviously another QB in Detroit just wouldn't make sense at this point. | ||
_sj_ Member Username: _sj_ Post Number: 1321 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.220.230.150 |
Drafting for need got you Aaron Gibson. You draft the best rated player you have on your board when it is your turn. BTW, while you are bitching about WR, just wanted to let you know that Jacksonville has drafted two in a row, do they go for three. | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2773 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Should the lions go for Reggie Bush, if available? | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3037 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 72.49.166.173 |
If you recall from last season's Lions thread, Super D picked the Lions to win nearly every game so I wouldn't put too much stock in anything he says. No matter what happens, the Lions will pick the wrong player. Millen is incompetent. | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 1173 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
Can one of you avid sports' buffs please enlighten me what the relationship or correlation is between a potential qb achieving success on the gridiron and scoring (reasonably) well on the so-called Wonderlic test? Young's credentials apparently fell as a result of a low score on this test. So what? He's not trying to get into law school. | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 464 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.213.206.54 |
Have you ever seen an NFL playbook? Me neither, but in a D3 college, ours was over 400 pages. The QB needs to know where evry single person on the field will be and what they will be doing at all times. They need to be able to read defenses and process a lot of information very qucikly. You can be a specatcular athlete and get away with it in college, but you can get by in the NFL as a QB on talent alone. But then again, Terry Bradshaw did pretty well, and he's dyslexic and i think he has A.D.D. I wonder what his Wonderlic score is. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 226 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72 |
DO NOT PICK REGGIE BUSH KEVIN JONES IS A BETTER FIT! PICK THE LB FROM OHIO STATE! | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 1052 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
The Rock...A fair question, and not easily answered. Sometimes it means nothing, sometimes it means everything...depends. Lots of hours in the NFL is spent studying your opponent and their tendancies on the field. Game plans are formed around that information. If an individual has a learning disability, poor study habits or retention ability, it could affect their ability to be coached, thus affecting their performance on the field. Terry Bradshaw supposedly couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the t. Didn't stop him from eventually throwing 3 TDs a game though. | ||
Jiminnm Member Username: Jiminnm Post Number: 494 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 68.35.85.184 |
Too bad Andre Ware isn't available again. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2425 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
I'm sure Andre Ware IS available but I didn't know the Lions had a need for waterboy in this draft. | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 465 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 69.213.206.54 |
Well now that we know what has happened with picks 1 through 4, what will the Lions do? Will it still be Huff like everyone says? If Leinart is there, do we take him? | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2426 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Oh crap...Lions time AND Leinert is still there. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2427 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
We're on the clock. I can almost hear the steam rising from Millen's ears now. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2428 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
ERNIE SIMS! | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2429 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Whaddaya know? The fat man on WDFN, Wojodamus was right again!!! Happy New Year! Wooooooo...! | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 395 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.201.177.57 |
Millen needs to make a trade to grab W. Justice. I don't think he will be there in another 7-8 picks. We need an upgrade over Kelly Butler......make it happen! | ||
7milekid Member Username: 7milekid Post Number: 8 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.61.163.12 |
FIRE MILLEN! | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 1179 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
Still looking for a decent quarterback. | ||
Steelworker Member Username: Steelworker Post Number: 645 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 70.229.112.218 |
lienart reminds me of harrington | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 858 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 69.217.229.2 |
oooooooh well 'cornbreaders', now ya 'dunnit'! you picked for the need__ now ya' got what ya' wanted! An undersized linebacker__with a history of beat'n up women! get the 'Fire Millen' shirts on the screening press right now!!!! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2774 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Not to be out done with the Fire Millen, but what about Fire Carr... Not One Wolverine taken in the first 3 rounds, shame..shame..shame. Every one else is represented Ohio State,Purdue, Wiconsin, MSU, Penn State, Notre Dame, Iowa, Christ, even WESTERN MICHIGAN has 2 players in the top 3 rounds. FIRE CARR !!! | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4835 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
(yawn) Michigan's offerings to the draft were scant this year. Players like Adam Stenavich and Tim Massaquoi (who both had significant injury problems during their time at Michigan) don't make good 1st-day draft picks. Neither does Gabe Watson, who is certainly oversized, but doesn't fit well into the schemes of many teams. Jason Avant is a great possession receiver, but lacks the speed and consistency needed at the NFL level. Just because a player is good in the college ranks does NOT mean they make a great pro, nor does it mean they are worthy of a 1st day pick. And if a player is picked up in the 2nd day, that doesn't discount that they could make an impact at the pro level. Remember where Tom Brady was picked up? 6th round, was it? I also fail to see how this is Lloyd Carr's fault. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2435 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Now waitaminute there Super D, before I go off agreeing with you as to our inept Lions drafting based upon need... WHO says that Leinert is a better pick than Sims? Which of these prognositcators actually says who's ranked where?? Is there a concensus that Leinert should've been better than where he got picked? I've seen rankings for Leinert being anywhere from a top three pick to a late first rounder! Who ranks these folks???? Obviously there's some disagreement amongst the professionals as to who's ranked higher so who are we to assume Millen's wrong? Even the blind squirrel could find a nut if he tried y'know? | ||
The_rock Member Username: The_rock Post Number: 1180 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.42.251.225 |
You sized up Michigan's "contribution" to the draft quite well, aram. Maybe today something will happen. Still shaking my head over Ohio State's contribution to the first day's activities--5 players. Amazing. | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2775 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
My point excatly Rock. While Day 2 will become a good day for The Big Blue, Evereyone else just seemed to have superior talent that made it to the NFL. What does this mean for recurits? | ||
Umstucoach Member Username: Umstucoach Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
The 2002 recruiting class for Michigan was probably the least talented class that Michigan had in a long time (it was hyped in this area because of Southfield Blue Jay Gabe Watson). It really comes at no suprise that this year would be like this. Looking at this ONE year really won't amount for recruits. When they look at Michigan they'll see Braylon or Brady or Hutchinson. Michigan just got a commit from one of the top qbs in the nation, Ryan Mallet from Texarkana, Texas and he's calling other top recruits. Don't be upset that Western got two guys in the second round. Jennings and Sheffler are talented. I really don't know why the Lions took Brian Calhoun in the 3rd, unless they think about getting rid of Pinner (the Toose is Loose!!!!). He's a 3rd down back at best for this team (Just another person to take carries away from KJ). | ||
Jimelnino Member Username: Jimelnino Post Number: 413 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 68.61.118.126 |
College recruiting is possibly the most overrated and potentially unimportent aspect of American sports, its right up there with the MLB draft. | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3039 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 72.49.166.173 |
If the Lions don't draft two or three offensive linemen today, they're kidding themselves. Can't believe they drafted a running back before they drafted a lineman. Who the hell's going to block? Looks like they're trying to trade Harrington to Cleveland for a fifth round pick. (Message edited by czar on April 30, 2006) | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 396 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.201.177.57 |
I really like the Calhoun pick. Many succesfull teams now use a two back system. | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8369 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.56.144 |
Darfting a running back when they don't have an O-line or corners. Good job meatheads. I wish I could fuck up on my job like the Lions do and still keep my position. | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 43 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 64.25.200.14 |
Goat, they had six picks and drafted 2 offensive lineman and 2 defensive backs. What more could they have done to fill those needs in the draft? | ||
Rusty Member Username: Rusty Post Number: 397 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.201.177.57 |
I agree Goat...... if they could have landed Justice in the 2nd, they could have switched him over to the left side as a major upgrade over Butler. However once you get past the first two rounds, most of the talent thats left is not going to beat out what you currently have. The problem with the current line is that most of the players are too similar.....All five are either finesse type players or under sized. Its ok to mix in a few of each (size with finesse) but to overload one way or another is disasterous. I'm still hoping they have a plan to upgrade the LT position.....could be another long year without a running game. | ||
Pape06 Member Username: Pape06 Post Number: 2 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 69.215.242.115 |
At LT we have Jeff Backus who we just Franchise tagged, Butler is our RT. | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2448 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports just lambasted Millen & the pick... http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/ne ws?slug=dw-winnerslosers043006 &prov=yhoo&type=lgns | ||
Czar Member Username: Czar Post Number: 3041 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 72.49.166.173 |
It's a sad indicator of the state of the franchise that Backus is our "franchise" player. The guy would be on the bench if he played for a team like Denver. | ||
Bongman Member Username: Bongman Post Number: 1053 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 198.111.56.128 |
Why is 5 concussions something NOT to worry about ? You can repair a knee. You can't fix a brain. If the plan is to build a great defense, thus letting the offensive side of the ball suffer for awhile, I could handle that. That means the Lions have a plan. But after watching these clowns for 40 years, what's the chance of that ? 15% ?? Is is possible that our running game fell apart last year because we got rid of a 39 year old Guard ? | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 502 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 209.69.165.10 |
<sigh> Here we go again.... | ||
Goat Member Username: Goat Post Number: 8370 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.71.56.144 |
Backus is a useless turd. Why, oh why did the Lions ever keep that douchebag? |
