  W00w Member Username: W00w Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 169.232.230.121 |
I am a visual artist (contemporary painter) living in Los Angeles. I've lived in LA on and off for twenty years. I have also lived in NYC and Germany, and temporary residences in Finland, Slovenia, Holland, Japan and briefly in Costa Rica. I am a 50 yr old woman and highly educated (Fulbright Scholar) with a terminal degree. I've lived alone for the past 10 yrs. I have no family at all and am totally self supporting through teaching, selling art and various pick-up jobs.I was born into a poor family outside Philly, went to school on 100% scholarships and was, in my younger years, what you would call a "scrapper." I am a totally self-made person. I am seriouly considering taking an academic position in Detroit. I've read hundreds of posts on this site and taken the virtual tour of the ruins and the reconstruction efforts to reclaim your city. After reading so many posts about the economic problems and the, I guess what I would call, humanistic and societal problems, the lack of rapid transit and one post even mentioned the overall laziness of the population, a kind of social malaise, etc etc...I feel very discouraged. Given that I'm too old to be a scrapper and I don't have family or friends in Detroit or family anywhere, I'd like any feedback on the possibility to forge a good life for myself, as an artist, in your city. What do you think? I appreciate your comments. Thank you!  | ||
Aiw Member Username: Aiw Post Number: 5496 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 209.216.150.127 |
Sounds like a question for Leoqueen... | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7234 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
WOOw - I believe there are a decent number of artists that can help you out and will probably respond to you. As for family I am sure that the FSC and other posters that hang out together would happily adopt you. Detroit is missing a lot of things but it definitiely is not missing a sense of community. | ||
Ron Member Username: Ron Post Number: 70 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 66.174.92.168 |
WOOw, The one thing I can say for someone like you, particuarly being an artist, is the potential to do what you want, and to be rewarded for it. We have so many opportunities for you to come in and make a name for yourself as an artist. FOr instance, if you go to a community that is inundated with those doing what you do, it is difficult to make that name. It is the whole big fish, little pond thing. I also read an article in last weeks Metrotimes about local artists who are making international names for themselves, and they work out of the Detorit market. (Look it up at www.metrotimes.com; again, it was in last weeks edition). Despite our problems, Detroit is a wonderful place to live. Also, I totally disagree with the statement about the "laziness" of the population. I missed that post, but it is totally inaccurate. The history of Detroit has been one of innovation (Remember the assembly line), brought about by blood, sweat and tears; not laziness. There is tremendous potential in Detroit, and we need people like yourself to take that chance. Remember, nothing worth having is easy to obtain. Also remember, without struggle there is no progress. (Ok, enough of the cliches from me) If you move to Detroit, I am sure that many on this board would welcome you wtih open arms, as well as the general populace. A lot of the discussion on this board, while it may not make Detroit entirely appealing to you, is simply our way of working through the problems of the past, and hopefully making Detroit better. It is like a family discussion, where the deepest, darkest decrets are discussed. I'm positive you would not regret your decision. | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 597 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 194.138.39.56 |
W00w, It's a little disappointing that an outsider can read this forum and feel discouraged about our fair City. While, it is never as bad as many say it is, it is certainly not as good as some say. Regardless, let me just say that as a current "virtual resident" of the City (I am on a delegation in Germany, currently, but still own my condo in Brush Park and plan to return), I have lived in Detroit for 5 years. I have also lived in the Suburbs of Detroit and also Ann Arbor. While, AA has much to offer, it never felt like home for me. The Suburbs are exactly that. If you like Suburban life, Detroit's suburbs are very nice and some of the best, I would say. But Detroit itself is truely a "one of a kind" City. While I have lived most of my life in SE Michigan, I can safely say, the most energentic, creative, open minded, fun, REAL people I have ever met live in Detroit. Some of the most amazing people I have ever met, in my life, have been in Detroit. The best friends of my life, I met in Detroit. Because of this, Detroit truely feels like "HOME" to me. As an artist, I think you could come to the MidTown area (Cass corridor) or the Corktown area and fit right in and have a very wonderful life. The artistic energy Detroit offers, I believe, cannot be surpassed anywhere. In many ways, I find Detroit to be like Berlin. Trying to shed it's past by struggling to redefine itself. My final suggestion is to make a visit to Detroit. You just don't know, until you visit. I wish you the best of luck to make your decision. Please don't let some of the asses on this forum discourage you. | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7235 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
So are you saying that your ass would encourage her? | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 598 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 194.138.39.56 |
Well, I HAVE been running alot lately... :p | ||
Ron Member Username: Ron Post Number: 71 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 66.174.92.162 |
It is MY best ASSet | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 770 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 209.104.146.146 |
Detroit is a culturally rich and vibrant city, similar to Los Angeles in its sprawling design. This forum highlights much of the malaise that affects area residents, who have been battered by five decades of decreasing economic fortunes. It is not a fair or full representation of the city of Detroit, surrounding metropolitan area, or state of Michigan. Keep in mind, Detroit was among the wealthiest cities of the early and mid twentieth century; declining fortunes have left many great resources in their wake. The Detroit Institute of Arts is among the top five art musuems in the nation. Belle Isle, the city's island park, is an urban gem unlike any other - except perhaps Central Park - in the nation. Art deco skyscrapers intermingle with modern design from the likes of Minoru Yamasaki, who designed the World Trade Center. World class - yes, WORLD class - shopping is available in surrounding suburbs, which are seperated from Detroit by meaningless political boundaries. Like gambling? There are three casinos in Detroit, all building world class accomodations. Don't like gambling? The churches in Detroit are magnificent in their splendor, constructed by wealthy residents at a time when religion mattered and money was no object. Detroit is truly an amazing and bewildering place. Yes, there is crime (mostly domestic and drug related crime that won't affect you, unless you have angry friends or a dope habit). Most of the crime happens in decayed inner ring neighborhoods you may or may not venture into. Downtown is a treasure trove of history and a repository of beauty. Give Detroit a try, you just might like it. | ||
Spacemonkey Member Username: Spacemonkey Post Number: 17 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 63.102.87.27 |
WOow, Do not move to Detroit from LA. It would be a huge mistake. Trust me. I live here. And I've been to LA. You'll hate it here. | ||
Patrick Member Username: Patrick Post Number: 3365 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.222.10.3 |
Now, you can't even order a coney dog at 2:30 on the morning without being beaten and shot to death. Hell, you won't even be able to ask for directiosn when you get lost becuase some thug wants to keep it real and shoot you. Stay in LA. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1664 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
I noticed a couple things in you post: You've lived in LA a lot: Most friends I have from LA really like Detroit, though there are a lot of differences. You're from Philly: I've only been to Philly once, but they struck me as similar. Philly's downtown is more expansive and it's housing is generally more to my liking (rowhouses instead of detached). They both seem to have similar inner-city disinvestment problems. And they seem to have a similar vibe among the general population. However, Philly seemed culturally dead to me (granted it was a quick visit). There is a lot of old culture (great art museam), but I didn't see a lot of evidence of new culture being created. Maybe I didn't go to the right places - but I didn't see evidence in the press that I looked at either. (Speaking of press, check out http://www.metrotimes.com/) Academic position: I'f they are with WSU or CCS, you can live practically on top of your job and have great transit 24/7 to many parts of the city (especially downtown). If they are with Marygrove or UDM, there are some great neighborhoods around there, but the area is more suburban in many ways. laziness: I bet that was in reference to walking/biking as opposed to driving to the front door. The region on a whole has this problem, but the many in the neighborhoods around downtown, WSU and CCS don't. A couple of other words of advice: It seems to me that the creative core of people in Detroit is extremely well connected. I've met fashon designers, authors, filmakers, & artist who all end up knowing the other people I've met. It doesn't seem that they are that few, just well connected. (Most of them that I've met are pretty young, so I don't know if that holds true for everybody.) I don't know if you saw, but the creator of this site Lowell Boileau is quite an artist himself. He was a co-creator of a new painting technique (Micropointillism). http://www.atdetroit.net/ He might be willing to give you his more personal take on a lot of things if you email him politely. (See link at left.) You should definitely visit. If you do, take time to go to some galleries that might be a little bit more off of the beaten path. (I'm sure the DIA would be interesting, but expected to you.) If you need help finding them, just post here. | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.50.194 |
If you lived in LA then you'd probably get along okay living in Detroit. Detroit is LA without all of the glitz and warm weather. | ||
Rjlj Member Username: Rjlj Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 63.171.81.135 |
If you can do it, come out for a weekend and see for yourself. Spirit has $129 flights each way from L.A. I think once you get involved with the art community here, you will be very pleased. They are much more open minded and optimistic about the city than some of the uneducated and narrow minded people on this forum. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1665 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
If you have any questions about the general attitude and knowledge of an individual poster, you can search for posts they've made here: http://www.atdetroit.net/cgi-b in/foroum/search.cgi Just put their handle in "Search for:" and set "Look in:" to names of authors. This might help you get a feel for our credibility. | ||
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw Post Number: 1434 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94 |
You said you're considering an academic position, which means you will have a decent income to live on. If you are going to be at Wayne or the CCS, you can live a pretty comfortable and fulfilling urban life in midtown, with new condos and townhouses (The Ellington, or new stuff east of Woodward north of Warren), rehabs of old ones (like the beautiful Park-Shelton), and houses available. If you have a car or want to use the bus, you could live in quickly developing Brush Park, or on lower Woodward. The cultural center is consumately urban and artistic and vibrant thanks to Wayne State and the medical center. You would be very happy here. It is also one of the safest areas in the region. It would not be like LA, but this part of town and much of Detroit would probably give you vibes of Philly, a city I like very much. You sound like someone interested in an urban lifestyle. It can be done, and for far cheaper than in LA. Things aren't as bad as they may seem, and the problems of malaise and poor attitudes are really regional problems, not just Detroit. But you can be optimistic and take action and join in the fun which is Detroit's recent upswing, or you can find fault in everything and join the regional naysayers. I'm thinking that if you go through the trouble of moving here, you'll want to have something to be proud of, and you'll do the former. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 158 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
"The churches in Detroit are magnificent in their splendor, constructed by wealthy residents at a time when religion mattered and money was no object." This is such a stupid statement W00w that the only logical conclusion is that the writer whose name I will not even grace with quoting directly must be smoking some of those 1953 seeds at the bottom of his/her/it’s stash! Here is an example of a magnificent church built by poor, Polish Immigrant Catholics that is probably or at least arguably one of the most beautiful churches ever built in the City of Detroit. St. Albertus Polish Roman Catholic Church.  Livedog2 keeping the record straight! | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 604 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 84.156.56.97 |
JSmeyers is correct about the Art community being very connected. It seems if you even meet ONE person, you will meet 20 more the next day and it expands from there. | ||
W00w Member Username: W00w Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 169.232.229.40 |
This is really interesting...thank you for all of your comments. It sounds like a lot of cities I've been in with regard to the art community, meaning cities not the size of LA and NY. I spent time in Houston and obviously the weather is different but the art community sounds similar, meet one and you'll meet 20 more. I'm interested to hear more from the person who said it sucks and stay in LA. I wonder why someone says that and remains in Detroit. Maybe they are too young to get out. It's true a person like myself could activate a lot of space in a city the size of Detroit. The actual city not the surrounding burbs is just less than a million, is that correct? I'm not interested in the burbs. If I were to make this move it would be to have a fully urban experience and a cultural one too. Is there a directory of galleries on line? I couldn't find one. I'm interested in contemporary galleries. Do any of you know contemporary galleries or significan non-profit spaces or even an artist message board on line? In Houston they have an amazing space there called Diverse Works which is fabulous is there anything like that in Detroit? Experimental work? Does anyone know. And what is the name of the "artist district" if there is one? Sorry for all the questions but who better to ask? Thank you again so much! | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 7247 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.159.19 |
I would suggest a good start is to contact the CAID. Otheres could suggest more. http://www.thecaid.org/ Others are the Zeitgest gallery http://www.zeitgeistdetroit.or g/main.html This is just for starters but I believe the people there can really give you an idea of the local art communities. Primary Space in Hamtramck is also owned by a really nice guy that would probably be willing to yap for awhile pr1maryspace.com | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
W00w, I am moving to Midtown in August, and am an artist of sorts myself. The most interesting gallery space in Detroit proper is the 555. I would start there. There are alot of more casual galleries of this sort, cool decor, warehouse type, in detroit... If you're looking for upper class galleries, there are alot in nearby suburbs, such as Ferndale and Grosse Pointe? I am a lifetime detroiter, born there in ann arbor, and moving back, so hopefully I can answer your questions... Also, my sister is a grad student in fine art at wayne state... might be a connection for you... .andy. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1667 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
Links: http://detroitmidtown.com/05/d irectory.php (Note that 101up has closed, one partner into grad school, the other want to make more art) http://www.thedetroiter.com http://www.thecaid.org/ http://www.detroitartistsmarke t.org/ http://www.dia.org http://www.ccscad.edu/ http://www.cranbrook.edu/ http://www.cpop.com/ http://www.detroitbydesign.com /555.html http://www.555arts.org/ http://www.4731.com/ http://www.heidelberg.org/ http://www.puredetroitdesignla b.com/ http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060421/E NT01/604210344 http://www.detroitmona.com/ http://www.mapdetroit.com/ Others don't have websites, such as Johansson Charles Gallery at 1345 Division Street in Eastern Market. I'm sure I'll think of more, but this is a good start. | ||
Eastsidedog Member Username: Eastsidedog Post Number: 285 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.20.140.8 |
W00w, let there be no doubt about it. There is an economic malaise due to the decline/restructuring of the American auto industry here but Detroiters are not lazy. The metro area is a hard-working area full of self-made men and women. You've lived in LA so it seems you can deal with cer-dependance, although our traffic is way, way less than LA. You've lived in Finland so you can probably deal with cold weather. And Finland is a lot colder than Detroit. (Detroit and Southeastern Oakland County are actually Zone 6, northwestern Oakland County and northern Macomb County are Zone 5. I only know this because I've been working on the garden. It's nice to be in Zone 6. ) You say you're highly educated but you're also a "scrapper" or self-made person. I think you will find that Detroit, even the suburbs are very blue collar which may appeal to your "scrapper" side - ala street art and such. I think you will love the work of Tyree Guyton (http://www.heidelberg.org/Page s/Artists/guyton/default.htm), if you're not familiar with him and he is very active in the area and around the world (I had the opportunity to speak with him at a party in Indian Village, a popular historic district in the city, on New Years. Great conversation, a very interesting man). On the other hand if you prefer a more "high-brow" academia-focused environment, then you'd probably like Ann Arbor. A lot depends on where the position is. Detroit is a varied place with very varied people. It sounds like you'd enjoy a position at Wayne State or the College for Creative Studies. The suburban universities and University of Michigan (Oakland, Macomb, etc.) may or may not be to your liking. | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1668 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
Don't forget to look at: http://www.metrotimes.com/ They have a pretty good search function for events (shows and openings), and decent art coverage. They don't have a list of galleries that I know of. | ||
Spartacus Member Username: Spartacus Post Number: 110 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 209.114.251.65 |
Here is a link to a list of art galleries in the Detroit area: http://www.guide2detroit.com/s hopping/artgalleries.shtml If you come to visit make sure not to miss the DIA and Cranbrook. Both are world class. Of course, the DIA is a shadow of its former self until renovations are complete in 2007. I'm not an art expert, but I believe some of the galleries (e.g., Habatat) are well respected nationally. BTW, Parkwest Galleries claims it is the biggest Art Gallery in the country. They're the ones who sell all the art on the cruise ships. | ||
Millingtond Member Username: Millingtond Post Number: 13 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.128.235.222 |
Go for it move to Detroit. Hell how can you not it's T-Top season! | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 3176 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.79.99.149 |
W00w, You'll find a lot of kindred souls both in age and their passion for art. I've collected quite a few pieces, either in exchange for photographing their art or simply buying a piece here and there. I've made quite a few friends within the Art's community, and one thing I appreciate is the acceptance and encouragement to create. | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 68.33.56.156 |
Detroit is LA without the mountains and ocean---oh, and without the new mass transit. | ||
W00w Member Username: W00w Post Number: 3 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 216.49.223.67 |
WOW this is so great everyone! I went to many of the sites you provided and there is indeed a lot happening! Actually you all got me really excited! I loved the metrotimes article by Rebecca Mazzei in todays edition. it talks about the new MoCAD. How great! Ok wish me luck. Now all I've got to do is nail that job!!!! You have all been so helpful. thanks so much! | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 945 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Although I'm not an artist, being a musician I can honestly say there is no place I would rather be than Detroit. The arts community is very supportive of one another, and the even with our sunken economy, still lots of support to keep our arts institutions alive. I wish you luck on your interview and would love to see and exhibition of your work in our area in the future. | ||
1953 Member Username: 1953 Post Number: 774 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 65.54.155.41 |
As a side note, I'm convinced that Livedog2 (such a clever moniker) is pursuing a joint PhD in history and architectural design. | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 10003 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Detroit has it's problems. People get killed almost daily. We are one of the most poverty stricken cities in the U.S. It is likely even one of the dirtiest cities out there. We lack a mass transit. We have thousands of abandoned homes, even more vacant lots, often littered with trash. Yet here I am, telling you I love it here and I am 100% confident that you would love it here too. If you need more reassurance, my neighbors recently moved here from the LA area. The husband teaches at CCS (Center for Creative Studies). They simply love it here and could more than reassure you that it is a move you would not regret. Mail me at supersport350 at hotmail and send me your number, I will hand it off to them. | ||
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob Post Number: 612 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.74.205 |
She's a little out of your age range, don't ya think, SS? | ||
Tetsua Member Username: Tetsua Post Number: 580 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 68.42.79.209 |
Last week, a girl I met in Queens, NY (while I lived on the East) spent a week with me in midtown and she absolutely LOVES The D. I've showed her the good, the bad, and the stuff that not many know about, and she is so intrigued she's returning this May to learn more. She's also committed to the idea of moving here this winter I might add. | ||
Detourdetroit Member Username: Detourdetroit Post Number: 195 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.212.228.19 |
On behalf of Durant's ghost, I sincerely apologize for the loss of your Red Cars and orange groves... Detroit is the saddest, most beautiful city in the world. If you let it in, our city might strike a nerve and make you weep uncontrollably or possibly give you the most profound sense of opportunity and clarity imaginable. It is waste. It is redemption. It is innovation, stagnation, inspiration and idiocy. It is black and white and gray in extremes. It is the loneliest, coldest, most depressingly ridiculous excuse for a place that somehow maintains the bones of a stillborn version of itself that for a moment aspired to be one of the world's great cities. You can live life on the raw edge of creativity and apocalypse and some of the wealthiest communities in America. Nobody will care. But along the way you’ll meet folks who love their hometown in such a extreme way that you’ll wonder if there’s something in the air. There is. If none of that ranting does it for you, Detroit is a lot cheaper than LA...also not targeted for the effects of global warming (at least in the latest Vanity Fair)...no earthquakes, tsunamis, or hurricanes to speak of...a good water supply and, in the event of End of Days or total economic collapse, conveniently located across the Straits from our friendly neighbor to the south... Good luck! | ||
Ray Member Username: Ray Post Number: 681 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.42.220.37 |
The city is very cool, if troubled. The suburbs are a Godforsaken wasteland of mediocrity and sprawl, punctuated by a few tiny islands of livability, including Ferndale, Huntington Woods, Royal Oak and Birmingham. | ||
Mpow Member Username: Mpow Post Number: 194 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 200.65.7.106 |
There is no city on earth like Detroit. Really it is a no sell. As an artist you should love it. It is the kind of place where you can insert your imagination everywhere. | ||
Thursdaynext Member Username: Thursdaynext Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 69.212.40.103 |
You could try here as well... http://www.scarabclub.org | ||
Rocket_city Member Username: Rocket_city Post Number: 13 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.217.174.213 |
If it's not to late to chime in, I'm going to piggy back off of jsmyers by dropping two names: Jenenne Whitfield at the Heidelberg Project and Ric Geyer at Michigan Urban Strategies, LLC (part of the 4731 Gallery). These two people will be more than happy to foster you in the right direction in regard to establishing your foundation in Detroit's art/creative scene. I guarantee Detroit will inspire you as an artist. You are exactly the kind of creative entrepreneur the city is able to support. I am currently studying (at Wayne State U) ways to enhance Art/Culture and Economic Development in Michigan and more specifically Metropolitan Detroit. For more information on Art and Culture in Michigan, visit: www.michigan.gov/hal Best wishes and support in your endeavors, W00w! | ||
Deputy_mayor_2026 Member Username: Deputy_mayor_2026 Post Number: 24 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
W00w, have you ever heard of the Heidelberg Project? It is a truly inspiring modern art masterpiece in a rather run down part of Detroit. Regardless, I bet as an artist you would be interested in seeing it or even getting involved. There is some information online about it that easy to acquire by google.com. | ||
Chitaku Member Username: Chitaku Post Number: 206 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 68.43.107.72 |
Just out of curiosity do the people that live in the Heidlberg houses, did they let Tyree paint them or did they move into them after. I was down there and met some of the residents bt forgot to ask, | ||
Detroit313 Member Username: Detroit313 Post Number: 44 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 72.229.136.103 |
DETROIT has soooooo much to offer. W00w give it a try. Take it from me, although I live in New York now, I was born and raised in DETROIT, spent my high school years in Nashville Tennessee, Did the LA and Seattle thing for college, and finally moved back to DETROIT in 2001. I tell you if you know what a real city is DETROIT makes a strong case. Only Rome rose then fell only to rise again. A champion suffers losses, if it weren't for defeat a champion would know how to pick itself up again!!!! A true champion (DETROIT) will pick itself up again. 313 | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2542 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.162 |
W00w, Detroit has long had a vibrant art community. Best of all it is very familiar, musicians, visual artists, film makers, writers all mix together. Low overheads mean more time to make art. And, yep, even the author of this site is an artist in good company with a large number of the forumers. | ||
Barnesfoto Member Username: Barnesfoto Post Number: 1927 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 216.203.223.100 |
I could not have said it better than the man above. Good luck, hope you get the job. You should come and spend a little time here, see how you like it. You can have a lot of space, and lots of artists here find much of their materials in heaps of junk...but there's winter, lots of break-ins (but you said that you are a scrapper, so I'm guessing that you don't insist on driving a Lexus with a nice stereo)...The population is less diverse...Those are a few drawbacks. The art community is smaller...I miss LA and the downtown art thing there, are you a westsider or eastsider? | ||
Detroitduo Member Username: Detroitduo Post Number: 610 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 194.138.39.52 |
DetourDetroit and us always get mixed up... Just to give credit, where credit is due, DetourDetroit wrote the quote, Lowell, not us. | ||
Llyn Member Username: Llyn Post Number: 1518 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206 |
People are not lazy in Detroit, at least not in the construction industry. Productivity is well above both the east and west coasts. I don't know or remember the context of the post that indicated "the overall laziness of the general population", but I don't see it as a truth. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2543 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.162 |
Thanks Detroitduo, I have corrected that. | ||
W00w Member Username: W00w Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 169.232.230.124 |
barnesfoto, to answer your question i was an east sider downtown LA for 9 yrs and now im a westsider for the past 10! yikes |
