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Dpd_blue
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It really disgust me that DPD gave a murderer a police escort. I doubt the man Proof shoot will get a police escort and he fought for his country. Also, I seem to remeber Ellie May Cummings stating during the re-organization that DPD will no longer do funeral escorts.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

great question DPD. I cannot understand why the streets were brimming with people wanting to see the funeral of this "savior" when he is a damn murderer. It really pisses me off when everday we are losing great people, and when a rapping murderer is killed at a club, the world stops spinning for him.

Ella Bully may have said that, but of course there will be exceptions....however, a DPD escort for this man?? maybe to jail had he survived, anything else is just a shame. DPD escorts are great for dignitaries such as Rosa Parks or other elected official, etc that may pass, but this is disgusting./

Detroit, put the guns away.
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Skamour
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

f this city. f the apotheosis of a**hole rappers. i wholeheartedly hope that every person in possession of a gun in a detroit niteclub gets shot in the head. i don't care if this guys lyrics are "da bomb" or "off the chain" (is that what the kids say?). he is a dirtbag that unfortunately probably didn't suffer much.

yes, i am serious.
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Shave
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

He is dead, buried, and will soon be forgotten. Let his body return to dust and the rest of the civilized society carry on as usual. He played with fire one too many times and he eventually got burned. Life goes on and once again the city leaders reneged on their word. Nothing new here. Yawn!
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Lilpup
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

security purposes, not honorary - crowd control & a bomb threat called in to the chapel
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Jtw
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i doubt that the other man's funeral will require the same level of security that proof's required.... i think that possibility of something bad happening at proof's funeral is far higher than normal, which warrants preventative measures by DPD.
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Adamjab19
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was most definetly for security reasons as well as being able to ease through traffic and keep the damn procession moving.

I work at a funeral home and it is sometimes hard enough to get an average size procession through traffic let alone a well publicized figure and funeral.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the investigation into the incident completed? Regardless of the issue at hand (police escort and the rest), I don't feel even half safe saying I know what when down in that club that ended the life of two persons, but a many here seem to think they know exactly what went down. All I've heard, thus far, are preliminary reports.
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Warriorfan
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What's even more disgusting, 4000 people showed up to pay respects to this murdering piece of shit.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=2006604190474

There were kids who actually skipped school to go to this. People wore t-shirts with pictures of Proof airbrushed on the front. What a sad commentary it is that a man who shot an unarmed man in the head over a pool game would be considered a hero and idolized by thousands of people.

I like the Rolling Stones, but if Mick Jagger killed a man in cold blood and was then gunned down himself, I don't think I would consider myself a fan anymore let alone go to his funeral.
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Psip
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Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 11:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe it was to protect the 24K gold plated casket.
I guess Proof wasn't BulletProof.
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Illmatic774
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:02 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The bigoted views here are disgusting. For christ sake, the man is dead. Let the man gather his respects from his friends and family and move on without this being a rap bash. The police were there for none other than security.


(Message edited by illmatic774 on April 19, 2006)
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Treez4brkfst
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:52 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Man I aint gone even front. Dude is essentially a murderer that was murdered. Fuck the artistic shit. And I love hip hop. I dont have much love for homey rite about now.
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Thecarl
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 1:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

okay...the early news reports said that the place was locked up when the police arrived, and they required the assistance of the fire department to gain entry. what went down in this illicit joint is a locked-up version of the truth hidden to outsiders. a lot of people have a lot to hide simply because they were there that night, particpating in illegal activity; they might have warrants out and are afraid to come forward; they may be in a custody dispute; intoxicants and late hours may tamper with the recollections of the patrons. the stories will never add up - but so many people feel confident in calling Proof a murderer. that's a shame.

i never knew Proof and i loathe the gansta' culture; i could never defend Proof, his life, or his lifestyle; but who here knows for a fact that Proof killed in cold-blooded murder? or could he have been a victim in a cleaned-up crime scene, one that was vacated long before the authorities arrived?
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Livedog2
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 1:34 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It just goes to show you how shallow, empty and vacant 4,000 people's lives are that they have to get involved in this "cult-of-celebrity" shit when he's just another dead ******!

Maybe he should have read Ecclesiastes 9:4 instead of talking-shit and selling "wolf tickets"!

Good ribbons!

Better this:
live dog

Then this:
dead lion

Livedog2
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Thecarl
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 1:53 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

funny.

i started getting caught up in this "what-are-things-coming-to" mentality when i remembered the elaborate funerals had by the bootleggers in chicago during the prohibition era. i can't imagine how egregious and appaling it must have been for the friends and families of those slain - under the reign of ruthless crime bosses - as the underworld emporers were laid to rest in outrageously lavish funeral processions.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 3:01 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carl,

The more things change, the more they stay the same. I'm still not so arrogant enough, or so naive enough to accept as fact preliminary police and witness reports, which more often than not turn out to be half-right/wrong, or wrong altogether. That's exactly why I haven't caught myself up in this, or thought much about it. I will let the investigation run its corse. If Proof is proven to be a murder, so be it. If he is shown to have shot in self-defense, than we have an awful lot of people looking stupid, but it wouldn't be the first time.
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Gannon
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 3:33 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I caught this one tonight from a friend in the hip-hop music scene...apparently Proof was retaliating for his uncle's death around the time of the Auto Show (either this year or last, I didn't get that far).

Apparently this uncle was important to Proof's success...there might have been another death near the time of his murder, too.


Has anyone heard ANYTHING to this effect?


It was a variant of 'an eye for an eye', and was ultimately unavoidable because of Proof's bravado?!


Again, this is strictly hearsay...I claim NO ownership of this information.
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Tayshaun22
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 5:03 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Proof kept it real, and will be applauded in the streetz for years to come.
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Lmichigan
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 5:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After all I just said...

There we go again with the "keeping it real" shit, again. That saying has been overused so much, and taken out of context it doesn't even mean anything, anymore.

Tayshaun22, I can tell by your post that you don't know the first thing about "keeping it real." Anybody can parrot old-ass cliché and not know what the hell they are talking about. Parts of America are still living out an antiquated culture that was phased out in the civilized world long ago. Quite a few American cultures stopped "keeping it real" long ago, as well. Tayshaun, you should stop repeating old-assed adages and start "keeping it real." Yeah, you're the one that's going to get the brunt of my frustration.

(Message edited by lmichigan on April 20, 2006)
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Wabashrr1
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 5:40 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Proof kept it real..."

Real What??
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Tayshaun22
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 7:50 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I learned about "keeping it real" from reading Sport's blog.
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Lawnmowerman
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 8:14 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder how long it will take before a scrapper will dig up and steal the rappers 24K coffin.
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Paulmcall
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 9:28 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Proof is keeping real dead. It's sad when he's a role model and hero in the streets. Until kids in the hood want to be more than drug dealers, rappers or the next Kobe, things won't change.
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Publicmsu
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Livin in the ghetttttttoooooooooo.
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3rdworldcity
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I knew Proof. I had business dealings with him, D12, and others in that business. He had a very sophisticated business mind and was always very friendly, witty, and a little quiet and softspoken. I obviously did not know him as well as many, but from what I did know his alleged acts that night were really out of character. I hope the truth eventually comes out, whatever it is.

And as several have pointed out, it's hard to understand how anyone could believe that the police escort was in any way "honorary." The police were there solely for the security of the general public.
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The_rock
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jjaba----was Proof a westsider?
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Tayshaun22
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But seriously, he was down. Kids in the hood look up to those older ones still putting in work. Why do you think a gang member elevates his notoriety by committing a crime or spending time in the pen? Anyone who lives the gritty street life is going to applauded by his peers.
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Southwestmap
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I heard that the Mayor was there. Wouldn't that be an honor?
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Gildas
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Another fine roll model for the youth of the city. Good riddance to bad garbage.

I think a 24ct coffin is bulk trash removal and they said it was stopped.
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Skamour14
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep... this M***r Fuc*er got what he deserved..... now thats keeping it real... time always takes its toll on those who play with gasoline and fire....I agree with Lmich, and Skamour said it best... he is a dirtbag that unfortunately probably didn't suffer much. To all my homies... this is another Ghettohood cleaning its self up from trash, and what I like to call justified Gentrification taking place...
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Lmichigan
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WTF, Skamous?! Did you not read any of my posts? I specifically said I'm holding judgement until the investigation is fully completed. My response to Tayshaun was a reply to his comment about "keeping it real," and old-ass, tired cliche that has lot all of its meaning. I'm glad you and other's are so arrogant to pretend to know what happened, because I sure as hell don't.
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Skamour14
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sorry lmich, I mis-understood your post.. I am not arrogant to know what the hell happened... really I dont care cause, another black guy got killed, I was simply agreeing with the part about the whole keeping the shit real bit... good words...*stands and salutes*
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Tayshaun22
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Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 7:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"really I don't care cause, another black guy got killed"

That's just a great attitude you've got there!
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Skamour14
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well I am "keeping it real" anyways another person if you would like for me to be politically correct, I dont mince my words, and screw the fact that he was a celebrity.... I dont care for certian people and since I met him more than once, good riddance to the human population
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Tayshaun22
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If you were keeping it real, trust me you wouldn't be spending any time on DY.
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Photoall
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where was the so call guards that allowed these
people in this after hours club with guns.
THIS IS SOMETHING LIKE FROM THE UNTOUCHABLES OR MOB THING!
Can't people in Detroit go enjoy good music, soul, rap, or good-timming music with out being scared, or havin to carry weapons.
This is what's wrong with most cities in the U. S. A. including Detroit.
People need to get back to reality and enjoy the music and get rid of the drugs and violence that SCARS! Detroit DAILY.
It's sad that a Soldier and a Rapper had to die but like the BIBLE says an EYE for an EYE and a TOOTH for a TOOTH!
He got what he gave out a bullet and now
somebody else will spend their sad life behind bars.
WE NEED TO HAVE THE DEATH PENATLY REENSTATED!!!
WHEN YOU EXECUTE A FELON THEY DON'T GET A SECOND CHANCE TO TRY AGAIN! RAPE, ROB, STEAL, ARSON OR KILL, GET RID OF THE TRASH AND SAVE MICHIGAN billions of dollars to help better educate the children of DETROIT instead of educating the
thugs in prison!
I have enjoyed soul music from the 50,60 and 70's and still do, the Temptations, Supremes, Chuck Berry, Ray Charles, I seen at the Walled Lake Casino a place most of you probaly never heard of, In the 60's when he was just starting
out. Kids enjoyed the music, drank a few beer, and had a few fights, but we used our fists, not guns and knifes like the thugs of today!
WE HAD GOOD HONEST MUSIC, not the VULGAR, SWEARING, STUFF THEY CALL RAP OR MUSIC TODAY.
I don't listen to it, but how to they say!
ITS A FREE WORLD, AND ITS FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
Free to turn another innocent Child to CRIME
It is so sad to lose all the CHILDREN of the WORLD to VIOLENCE.

A ROCK AND ROLLER TILL THE DAY I DIE!!!!

In the 70's when the government took correction
away from the School Teacher, Principals and parents this is where it all started.
I've had a few slaps on the ass from a paddle from a teacher or principal and a few swipes on the ass with a switch or a belt from my parents. Sure it hurt a little while!, but I learned
to respect my teachers and Parents. I also learn right from wrong.
I grew up in the 50 and 60's with cowboys and indians, playing with toy guns, shooting BB guns
bow and arrows, or playing cops and robbers with toy guns. BUT YOU DON'T see me going around caring guns and killing people, cause I learn't right from wrong with a little respect from the paddle and switch.
A garage sale I was at a few years ago the people had a box full of children toys, squirt guns, toy guns, and a little fella ran to the toys and picked up the squirt gun and acted like a cowboy
shooting indians, a small childs dream!
His mother came over to this small child and grabbed this child and said I quote "you know you never play with guns they can kill!"
This was a white woman too! if it would make any difference?
WAKE up woman and let the fella have a little fun it's only a toy!
A LESSON LEARNED!
USE the switch on the mother for being so stupid and childish!!!IT WILL ONLY HURT A LITTLE WHILE but maybe you will learn the correct RIGHT FROM WRONG!
I AM STILL A CHILD AT HEART AND ENJOY A GOOD COWBOY AND INDIANS SHOW ON THE TUBE!!

WAKE UP DETROIT!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT TO LATE!
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Xphillipjrx
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Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I won't debate whether or not Proof deserved the escort, but I can tell you that a DPD police escort of a funeral is one of the coolest things you will ever be a part of. My grandfather's service was on Woodward and we had an escort down Ford Road all the way out to United Memorial Gardens (Joy Road and Vorhees). The funeral procession did like 50-60 mph while 15-20 police cars blocked off every cross street. It was like this continuous game of leap frog. One car blocks off a street, the procession passes and then the cop speeds past the procession to block off the next available street. We were passed by a steady stream of 100mph police cars for close to 45 minutes. In the rotation was a cop with a real shiny leather jacket and pants like Patton. I hope there is a cop on here who can confirm. It is a sight to see.
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Livedog2
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We seem to have selective memories about things, me included. Or maybe we don’t have all the facts. There is outrage over the fact that Proof received a police escort for his funeral as noted by:

"It really disgust me that DPD gave a murderer a police escort. I doubt the man Proof shoot will get a police escort and he fought for his country. Also, I seem to remeber Ellie May Cummings stating during the re-organization that DPD will no longer do funeral escorts."

I guess it's all your perspective or point-of-view. What is one person's police escort is another’s public safety and crowd control measure.

I didn't like Proof either because of the way he poisoned young people's minds with his music and whole "gangsta" lifestyle! If he would have sang songs about black children going to school and studying instead of the shit about you "not being black enough" if you do good in school then he would have earned "true" respect instead of "horseshit" respect based on smoke that lead to his own death. But, I digress!

My father use to tell me stories about the famed Hydroplane Racer the "Grey Fox of Greyhaven", Gar Wood from the 1910s through the 1930s. He was a big celebrity in the Detroit Area with his Miss America Unlimited Hydroplane that used four supercharged Packard engines. "King Gar" personified power boat competition in the eyes of the world and was the first true superstar from Detroit and we were proud.

On the day of the huge races that drew hundreds-of-thousands of people as spectators to the riverfront, the City of Detroit maintained an open route directly from the Detroit River to the Packard Motor Car Company. And, on many an occasion when the “Grey Fox” blew an engine during the heats the Detroit Police provided a police escort from the Packard Plant that had Packard engines waiting to be spirited down to the wharf for on the spot changing of engines. So, as you can see there is precedent for police escorts and in this case maintaining an open route from the river to the Packard Plant.

Now, there’s another part to this story that permeates everything about Detroit. Gar Wood was a white guy, the administration of the city were white guys, most of the police were white guys and most of the citizens were white. Now, Proof was black, the administration of the city is mostly black, a goodly number of police are black and the majority of the citizens are black.

I may be naïve but I think that the people that are in power get to make the decisions. Guess who was in power and ain’t anymore? It’s like that punk George Bush said, “I read the front page, I listen to the radio and TV and I know people don’t like Rumsfeld. But, guess what I am the decision maker and I think he’s done a fine job and he stays on as Secretary of Defense." I don’t like either one of the mother fucker but how can you argue with that kind of logic?

So, if white people don’t like what the black people are doing in the City of Detroit then they have nobody to blame but themselves because they ran their sissy-asses to the suburbs instead of taking care of business in their communities, neighborhoods and homes in Detroit. And, guess what you don’t have to agree with this but it’s true anyway. If white people want to do “something” about Detroit then move back into the city, participate in the local government, communities, neighborhoods and your homes. Or shut up because race is still at the bottom of all the troubles in Detroit – oh, that’s black and white racism, by the way!

To put it in terms you might understand. When a basketball team has a team of all black players that are “prima donna” shooters or a team of white guys that pass all the time but never shoot, you can’t have a winner. But, if you put the shooters with the passers you’ve got a winner. It will work the same way with the City of Detroit if everybody gets with the program and wants a winner!

Livedog2
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Llyn
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"If white people want to do “something” about Detroit then move back into the city, participate in the local government, communities, neighborhoods and your homes."

I so totally agree with you. I'm tired of suburbanites and their opinions. It they're contributing to the city in some way, that's one thing, but just putting up with their bitchin', I won't do it. For the record, I'm white (except for the one sixteenth native american), live in the city, and I do all those things you mentioned.

"Or shut up because race is still at the bottom of all the troubles in Detroit – oh, that’s black and white racism, by the way!"

How many blacks have moved to the suburbs and left the city? How many whites stayed in the city or have come back to the city? I know you don't think it's all about race...
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Livedog2
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I do, absolutely, think everything is about race. It colors every major endeavor in the City of Detroit!

Livedog2
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Thnk2mch
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 3:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Livedog2...

Horrible comparison.

How many people did Gar Wood murder?

(Message edited by thnk2mch on April 24, 2006)
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Detroit_stylin
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK forum investigators since everyone has tried and examined all the forensic evidence...

How do you know that Proof DID 'murder' this individual? All I have seen a bunch of forum lawyers/judges who already determined guilt and passed sentence and the case hasn't even concluded yet. without ever having set foot at the crime scene NOR talked to one witness! Yet you all are painting him this "murderer" that's getting all of this attention...

But I guess that's what happens when you get your information from unbiased news publications like the Freep and the News...

This was a fuggin human being and if he had people that felt the need to pay their respects then let them do that in peace! IMO by you all disrespecting Proof in his death you all are also disrespecting those who knew, loved, cared, and admired him. SO its not about what you all think anyway. You didn't like him, fuck it...disregard his service and don't go. If I for one was in anyway related to this man and I knew you were talking a gang of shyt like you are on this board I would be PISSED...

So think on that...

It's so clear the way so you think on this forum it's crazy...
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Pamequus
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LiveDog.....Why did the white people leave Detroit?? I think that's the question you need to ask yourself.......
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Shave
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 4:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yadda, yadda, yadda...show some respect...yadda, yadda, yadda...don't speak ill of the dead...yadda, yadda, yadda...fuggit...<rolls eyes>

(Message edited by SHave on April 24, 2006)
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Newman
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Oh My God!
I agree with Shave.
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Newman
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2006 - 6:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh My God!
I agree with LiveDog2.
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Lmichigan
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Shave, you were heard the first time. Move on if you really don't care and let those that want to continue this continue this until it runs its course. Blah, blah, blah, get the hell on...

(Message edited by lmichigan on April 24, 2006)
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Tayshaun22
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quote:

LiveDog.....Why did the white people leave Detroit?? I think that's the question you need to ask yourself.......




I can answer this! It's because all "niggas" do is steal and murder, right?
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Livedog2
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Hey Thnk2mch you didn’t think enough. The comparison wasn’t urine it was mine! If you have a different idea then that’s what this form is for. So, show some creativity and put your own thoughts down here instead of criticizing others. It doesn’t take any brains to sit at your computer scratching your ass and picking your nose and making comments about other people’s opinions. Maybe you might consider an original thought of your own!

“I think that's the question you need to ask yourself.......” Pamequus, obviously you didn’t read what I wrote very closely because I stated my opinion about why the white people left Detroit. So, I will excuse your projection and allow you to answer your own question about why they left.

And, Shave you used the same word nine (9) times in your posting that only had twenty-one (21) words in it. You still had to go back and edit your message. You figure it out because I already have!

Newman was the only one that made any sense and he was totally indecisive!

And, Lmichigan was the only one that had an original thought that made any sense. He at least took a stand on something instead of the niggling and sniping like the other snivelers attempted to do!

I can see that not many people read the rules for posting on the DetroitYes Forums. If you look in section 3b, paragraph 4, line 3 you will plainly see that it says, “All postings are owned by the poster and for the poster. The posters think that their posting is for the enlightenment and/or humor of other posters on the DetroitYes Forums. Nothing could be farther from the truth!

Livedog2
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Pamequus
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Livedog2

I need not answer my question. The purpose of the question was to urge you to look deeper into the reasons. My opinion is that you are a bit shallow and prejudiced in your opinion of why the whites left. It is a far more complicated issue that the "sissy-assed whites" running out of town.
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Llyn
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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:16 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is it?
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Shave
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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:29 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow!!! Livedog2 and his bare-mouthed barks. I edited in the last part of my post which is the reason you see '(Message edited by SHave on April 24, 2006).'

Lmichigan, I got'cha! Point well taken. Just couldn't resist making a point to the forum's bully.
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Thnk2mch
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Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:46 am:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Live dog2 states forum rules.

Here is another I recall:

"Absolutely no name calling will be allowed, directly or indirectly."


I am not an ass scratching nose picker.
( in my opinion, of course )

(Message edited by thnk2mch on April 25, 2006)
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Livedog2
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Llyn, some people have to make everything complicated to make them feel important in their own minds. This is a typical liberal gambit to allow them time to obfuscate the issue, to give them time to figure out a way to cry and wail about their crusade. It is in this process that they “truly” make the issue complicated so that they can have a platform for their cause. This is what is going on with Pamequus and people of his ilk. They "make" it complicated and then they get the intellectual class involved in a problem. Then it really does get complicated. Human endeavors get as simple or as complicated as the people involved in them are. Period! That's from the textbook for -- Life 101.

life

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Pamequus
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LIVEDOG2... PAMequus is female......Pam being the shortened Pamela and equus being the latin verbage of horse, of which I am not, but am an afcionada.

My question is NOT simple. I suggest you'd like it to be because it would then continue to support your racist views.

As one who resided and lived in Detroit through that period of history I could offer you other reasons for the white exodus from the city. I won't bother because you won't consider them BUT perhaps this may stimulate you to at least try to think of some and by that process see some gray, rather than black and white.
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Livedog2
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Think, again. I can spot a liberal a mile away and they have nothing I want to hear!

And, by the way, you aren't the only one that lived in Detroit through that period. But, I guess its easy to have all these arguments about how complicated the problems in Detroit are when you are anayzing them all the way from Tallahassee!

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Livedog2
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That's me with the club! +<(:-)~

liberal

Ave Atque Vale!!

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Pamequus
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When I read Arc of Justice it was abundantly clear that the white exodus was already foretold by the practices of the day. BTW, Dr. Sweet was originally from Tallahassee.

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