  Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
do you cats happen to know what the downtown office worker population is? i have hear from various sources that it is constantly shrinking, however in kwame's budget, the mayor said that the offices downtown are doing well... 90% occupancy rate, new construction? who do i believe... I am, as always, hesitant to believe kwame kill... but i really really want to! | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3529 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
The last number I saw was from sometime in the mid 90's that had the downtown daytime population at 75,000, but I'm not exactly sure of the year, or what they include as "downtown." It could have been just the CBD, or the CBD, Midtown, New Center, and all of the adjacent neighborhoods. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 428 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
"do you cats happen to know what the downtown office worker population is? i have hear from various sources that it is constantly shrinking, however in kwame's budget, the mayor said that the offices downtown are doing well... 90% occupancy rate, new construction? who do i believe... I am, as always, hesitant to believe kwame kill... but i really really want to!" Remember the time a while back when KK publicly stated that the city's bond rating was in fine shape... By the very next day, one of the three major bond rating firms downgraded the city's shaky bond rating. I harbor the same type of doubts when the auto firms' higher executives like Lutz, et al., said they were doing OK the past year or so. Sometimes, it's best not drawing any more attention to the problems lest the security analysts start snooping around. (Message edited by livernoisyard on April 15, 2006) | ||
Jsmyers Member Username: Jsmyers Post Number: 1614 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 67.177.129.227 |
90% occupancy for class A office. There is a lot of vacant lower class office space | ||
Zulu_warrior Member Username: Zulu_warrior Post Number: 2733 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
There is a variance in the stats...here's why. Public Safety Officials place the Detroit Population at noon right at 2 million, but this would include workers not in the CBD, so this includes DPS staff, WSU staff, Hospital Systems, and other federal, state, and city workers. The CBD number of course would be far shorter than 2M and would be in general shrinking given GM, EDS, The City, Compuware and financial institutions cuts. Plus the occupancy rate and the number of people dont necessatily correlate. A rented office down town doest necessarily give lots of people. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 4 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
I guess i am mostly interested in whether the downtown "office population" is shinking, stable, or growing... with compuware, rock financial?, and visteon, etc... can it be shrinking? .andy. | ||
Renf Member Username: Renf Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.43.197.95 |
Census 2000 counted 319,000 people who lived in the USA and reported the city of Detroit as their place of employment. The Census Bureau's new American Community Survey will soon begin reporting this number on an annual basis. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
thank you. i'm just curious... a vital downtown that is no longer shrinking is a good sign and a start... | ||
Iheartthed Member Username: Iheartthed Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 141.212.53.46 |
A year or so ago, I heard it was more like 55,000. In the area bounded by the river, I-375 the Lodge and the Fisher Fwy. I forgot what the source was, but I'm very sure of that number. I doubt it has jumped much farther than that in the amount of time since I read it. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 1083 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.73.55.190 |
It is important to have the boundaries defined, though. The stat on how many people work in the City of Detroit is somewhat useless when compared to how many work downtown (typically defined as the CBD), since the City of Detroit is about 100 times the size of the CBD. (CBD = the area that Iheartthed defined.) I'm also curious about how the CBD numbers have been doing over the years. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3536 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I just found something on Wikipedia, that relates to this. Wiki states that the daytime population of Midtown Detroit surpasses 50,000. That may be helpful later when we're calculating the daytime population of the greater downtown area. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M idtown,_Detroit | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 648 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
Depends if a ball game is being held too. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3547 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Sporting events and conventions are not counted in any populations. They are the most temporary of the temporary populations. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 431 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
"I just found something on Wikipedia, that relates to this. Wiki states that the daytime population of Midtown Detroit surpasses 50,000. That may be helpful later when we're calculating the daytime population of the greater downtown area." For the benefit of anybody who is as yet unaware: Anybody can post to Wikipedia, similar to what goes on this forum. Even LMichigan could, but that copy would quite likely need to be subsequently edited by another volunteer. [However, I would "stet" it if up to me, though--just for laughs--as I have enough copy and SME editing to do.] So, when going to Wikipedia for information, caveat emptor. Its accuracy and veracity are usually "good enough for government work," though. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3548 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I realize that, but it was more than I've been able to find anywhere else, and it seems to match up with a number flying around here. | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 432 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
I was only messing with you. It would have been directed to anyone who just happened to cite data from Wiki, BTW. In that respect, I'm an equal-opportunity basher... I use Wikipedia all the time, while realizing its limitations. At least you cited the source of your figures instead of simply making them up as the NOW crowd and other radiclib groups did for the past few decades. | ||
Jerome81 Member Username: Jerome81 Post Number: 972 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 64.142.86.133 |
Interestingly, I heard on the history channel last night about the 1906 quake here in SF that there are 400,000 workers that arrive in SF from outside the city every day. Don't know if that is the financial district or all of SF. | ||
Andylinn Member Username: Andylinn Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.40.195.233 |
is there somewhere we could find an office building occupancy rate? .andy. | ||
Harmonie Member Username: Harmonie Post Number: 572 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 198.109.32.15 |
In "Reality vs. Perceptions: An Analysis of Crime and Safety in Downtown Detroit" prepared by the Michigan Metropolitan Information Center, WSU and DMCVB the employment base of the Downtown Visitor's Area (375-75-10-Detroit River) was 73,849 in 2004. Entire document can be found here: www.tedconline.com/uploads/DMCVB_June_Final_Report.pdf (Message edited by Harmonie on April 18, 2006) (Message edited by Harmonie on April 18, 2006) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3553 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Cool! That matches up with the 75,000 number I found for the mid-90's. It looks like it hasn't changed much, which is fine seeing as how many thought it was declining. It just looks like its stagnant. |
