  Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Why is it that a city with over 75% African American population has over 55% of European American police officers? who, when they pull you over you realize there employment has nothing to do with their intelligence? African Americans make up 10% of the population in Warren MI, how come we dont have 50% of the jobs on their police force? If you drug tested 100 European Americans & 100 African Americans European Americans failure ratings is almost twicw as high!!! I know why do you???? | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2232 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
As opposed to looking at their differences I try to think of them as Americans first. | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 548 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
I give Detroit48213 less than one week before he's banned from the forum. Any takers? | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 114 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Detroit48213, Your baiting. Why don't you just enlighten us with your facts? Where did you get these drug test "facts"? | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 151 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.47.85.139 |
maybe cause no black people have applied for the jobs? | ||
Crazy_pete Member Username: Crazy_pete Post Number: 23 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 72.138.178.249 |
Well, do you think that maybe if more African Americans APPLIED for the job, that there would be more on the force? Most big city police forces TRY to hire people that reflect their cities. A lot of times they even pass over qualified white males in order to fill quotas... But there isn't much they can do if they aren't getting enough people to even APPLY to the job. They can't just clone black people in their basement and train them to be cops, the people have to want to become cops. If only white males want the job, only white males will be getting the job. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 115 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
As if the City of Detroit isn't trying to hire blacks. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 6 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Smogboy-when I am pulled over in Eastpointe by a European American police officer for nothing they are not pulling me over because they see an American they are pulling me over because they see a BLACK HEAD driving. Just keeping it real!!! | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
E_hemingway- I bet u wish I was a Dennis Archer type of African American. Just keep my mouth shut and be a credit to my race. | ||
Gildas Member Username: Gildas Post Number: 548 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.216.100.1 |
It's called diversity, the open minded people of Detroit, who love diversity, should not mind the ethnic makeup of the police force. They should applaude the hiring practise of the police department in giving an under represented group within the city a chance at having a job. That's affirmative action. | ||
Michigansheik Member Username: Michigansheik Post Number: 125 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 63.65.97.67 |
blah blah blah tell your friend(s) to apply for the Detrot force and please tell us what happens. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 8 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Michigan- what doe's blah blah blah suppose to mean? Are you mocking my comments? could u be trash??? (looking for intelligent conversation) | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1552 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.217.229.167 |
If it really was "for nothing" then you have grounds for one huge ass law suit against the City of Eastpoint. I encourage you to file it and have your attorney subpeona the tapes from that officer's dashboard cam. Of course, if that officer actually did have a legitimate, non-racial reason for pulling you over then the officer's dashboard cam would show that as well. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 9 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Michigan- What is blah blah blah suppose to mean? Are u mocking me? Could u be chip off the ole block trash?? | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1553 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.217.229.167 |
Crazy_pete is right about this one. I know of two well qualified white males who applied to the Detroit Police Department. Both had a college degree and an impecable military record. Neither of them were hired and they were told by a DPOA rep that it was because the Department wanted to increase the number of African-American officers. Las Vegas and some suburb in Chicago now have the benefit of their service. Personally, when I see a drug deal happening on my street or prostitutes working in my neighborhood, I don't really give a crap what color the skin is of the officer who makes that arrest. I just want someone in a blue uniform to show up and make the arrest. | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 410 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Actually I'd just wish that you'd simply get your facts straight
http://www.detropolis.com/cont ent.php?contid=2
http://72.14.203.104/search?q= cache:-ezL6pkxuoQJ:www.freep.c om/news/locway/cops13_20040313 .htm (Message edited by eric on April 08, 2006) | ||
Iddude313 Member Username: Iddude313 Post Number: 21 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 64.139.65.183 |
if I was a cop and I saw a head driving a car i'd probably pull it over too! | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 116 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Detroit48213, So where did you get your information about the drug test results? I though you were bitching about Detroits P.D. not Eastpointes. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 117 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Nice work Eric!!! Looks like someone got pulled over by a white cop and decided it was race related. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 10 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
321brian- Is that what u would like it to look like? typical of European Americans to try to rationalize their chip off the ole block conditioned trashy behavior as being figments of African Americans imagination's. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 11 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Eric- I am not trying to be combattive, I am just stating the obvious. If u think that you can just display doctored data and think that should be good enough for me. Think again!!! there is no way that Detroit's police force has only 33.7% whites and I will present the real 2006 data. In the mean time I noticed u just skipped over my warren dept statement.Convenient ha. I should just keep my mouth shut like Archer & Hendrix right? | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 207 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.210.26.253 |
Typical of racists to think that anyone who disagrees with them must be of a different race than them. | ||
Miss_cleo Member Username: Miss_cleo Post Number: 153 Registered: 05-2005 Posted From: 69.47.85.139 |
European American? lol, I am plain ole AMERICAN, I feel no need to preface American with my heritage, why do blacks? We can SEE your black! | ||
Chub Member Username: Chub Post Number: 304 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.246.28.200 |
Well how about this Detroit48213, I've been pulled over by black cops in my own Detroit neighborhood and asked what I was doing driving around here. I also was approched by two black cops 4 years ago in my front yard as I took out my garbage. They stopped, rolled down the window and asked if I lived here, then wanted to see my ID, and then made the comment "Are you sure you want to live around here"? It didn't make me very happy to be talked to like this and I felt more like I was being harrased then being looked out for. | ||
Dag Member Username: Dag Post Number: 202 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.188.238.215 |
I am quite amused by the conversation. I encourage 48213 to keep it real and give us more stories about how he is doing this. Street prophets ride!! | ||
Mcpd1300 Member Username: Mcpd1300 Post Number: 90 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.42.175.57 |
I, too, have been profiled in Detroit because I'm white. I live in a predominantly black neighborhood and have also been asked by Detroit PD (Black officers) as I was walking back to my home from the grocery store across the street, if I was out there buying drugs, selling drugs, and when I told them I lived in the house (as I pointed) "right there", they demanded my ID, called it in, ran me, and then said "Wow, sorry about that, didn't think you were telling us the truth. Why would you want to live here, anyways?". I've also thrown a number of parties at my house, and two people that were guests en route to my party who were also white were harassed by Detroit PD at the gas station up the street from my house when asking for directions. As a former member of law enforcement, I can say yeah, racial profiling probably does exist. But first off, you were pulled over in Eastpointe, NOT Detroit. Detroit48213, you demand an "intelligent conversation", I quite frankly don't care what happens in Warren or Eastpointe, because this clearly isn't about Detroit. My question to you, when you were stopped, did you ask the officer "Excuse me, sir. May I ask why I was stopped today?" Did he give you an answer? I'd love to hear the exact events of this "racial" traffic stop you were involved in. Also, have you contacted his command officer? Did you contact the City Hall of Eastpointe? | ||
E_hemingway Member Username: E_hemingway Post Number: 550 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.176.123 |
After an extensive investigation, I have conclusive proof that Detroit48213 is a 13-year-old white girl from Howell who just wants the boys the pay attention to her. Case closed. Detroit48213, you are nothing but a little white, possibly albino, girl. Anybody who disagrees with me is a racist pig. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 119 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Detroit48213, So you basically have no facts to back up your claim? You have nothing to say when someone pulls up information contrary to your claims. You just throw back the old your aren't this so you can't know that bull***. I can't wait until you find the 2006 data. I can't wait because when you find it you'll go away with your tail between your legs because you are wrong. Please leave the formalities at the door. You can just call me an American like Miss_cleo. I've never even been to Europe. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1969 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.186 |
By the sound of his Archer/Hendrix bashing, maybe he got his "valid" information from the Michigan Citizen. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1970 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.6.186 |
"TRASH WITH A BADGE IN DETROIT"... what a derogatory term to call Detroit's finest, whether they be white or black.... | ||
Motorcitymayor2026 Member Username: Motorcitymayor2026 Post Number: 670 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.231.189.137 |
this is a disgusting topic. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 15 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
321brian - I use European American to describe white's, I use African American American to describe blacks, I use Asian American to describe Japanese or Chinese, I use Iraqi American to describe Iraqi's, I use Cuban American to describe Cuban's. I know your programming has been to make u think that you are king of the hill and everyone else are "minoritie,s" and you are the mighty white. The only one who can really call themselves Americans are Native Americans and I'm not sure that American is the name they would have chose. So in this so-called melting pot (USA USA) called America you are a European American because that is where your trashy ancestors came from to rape , rob , murder, steal.....etc etc. I know you have been programmed and conditioned to over look this tiny fact but believe me I will make sure you remember (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 08, 2006) (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 09, 2006) | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 68 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Is that steel or steal? He he! Livedog2 | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 69 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
^j^ Livedog2 | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1554 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.215.251 |
Actually, my trashy ancestors came from Europe to work for $5 a day. Others folks came here from Europe to get away from someone who was trying to kill them. And a whole bunch of them - of all different ethnicities - gave their life to defend this nation in battle so that a loudmouthed punk like you sit at a computer in your Momma's basement and show the whole world what an idiot you are.
Yeah, right. Go ask the Royal Oak Police Department what kind of a job Dennis Archer does at keeping his mouth shut. There's a difference between keeping your mouth shut and making sure you're screaming racism where it actually exists instead of just throwing around accusations. Mcpd1300 asked what the officer said when you asked him why he pulled you over. He also asked what happened when you called his supervisor. You never responded. 321brian is still waiting for those statistics you promised. You're cowardice is as telling as your ignorance. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 299 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
A recent article in the South End (Wayne State's student newspaper) described the DPD as being roughly 30% white and 70% non-white (with the overwhelming majority of those being African-American). Will you have us believe that the DPD is putting out "false" statistics, even though the Cheif of Police is African-American herself (as are the Mayor, City Council, and most of the DPD leadership)? | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 18 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Warrior- u cant help it ignorance is your culture! Yes those figures are lies. Is there anything else that I said that u want to dispute Humnnnnn???? | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 19 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Warrior_ No, I will not have you believe that. The Souyh End ( which is printed and published by A European American dominated staff) would have you believe that. What about my other comments. anything to say about them??? Go back to debate class. My Detroit Public School education is underated while while your suburban education is grosselly overrated! (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 08, 2006) | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2240 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Gee, I wonder what you'd call my friend who is white and is from South Africa? Is he an African American? What about the black people who live in Canada? Are they African Canadians and would they be insulted by your terminology of African American? Talk about programming! | ||
Mcpd1300 Member Username: Mcpd1300 Post Number: 92 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 68.42.175.57 |
Detroit48213, can you answer my questions that I posed earlier? It's fairly clear that you're only here to "stir the pot". Why are we still responding to this nonsense? | ||
Eric Member Username: Eric Post Number: 411 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 35.11.210.161 |
Stating the obvious? You haven't said a thing, where's your proof? If you can't do that you're just blowing smoke up my ass. | ||
Cheddar_bob Member Username: Cheddar_bob Post Number: 577 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 204.128.192.5 |
So racial, ethnic slurs are roundly condoned around here now? Calling white people trash? Apparently we can all slur each other here anymore and it's okay. Detroit48213, before you go around spouting off about ignorance, maybe you should learn proper spelling and grammar. When you misspell words in the very SENTENCE that you call someone else ignorant, it makes you look like a jackass. Or is that some white dudes fault, too? | ||
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin Post Number: 476 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 65.43.45.201 |
I was pulled over in Suburban Lansing by a black officer the other day. Didn't think anything of it until now. Did he really pull me over because my licence was about to fall off, or was it because I'm white? And why was he working for Eaton County Sheriff's department? There aren't many blacks in Eaton County, he should have worked for Lansing PD. And as for profiling whites in Detroit, I know it's a hassle and "wrong." But keep in mind 99% of the white people they see in your area probably are just out looking to get drugs or some other illegal reason. I see nothing racist in not ignoring the stats and doing your job accordingly. Still I wouldn't have given ID or anything. Cops should be able to tell your intentions with just a friendly chat, especially if they suspect drugs are involved. A simple "hello sir, you from around here?" should have sufficed since most anyone with bad intentions or a drug habit would have probably made it apparent at that point. | ||
Superduperman Member Username: Superduperman Post Number: 75 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.221.36 |
White police pull me over all the time for any number of made up reasons just because of the cars I drive,some of the reasons they have said is because I appeared intoxicated,(I don't drink at all,except pepsi),they can't see my tag on my license plate,going 2 miles over the speed limit.....there are a few other bullshit reasons......to say racial profiling doesn't happen would be a lie. | ||
Warriorfan Member Username: Warriorfan Post Number: 300 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.43.81.191 |
Chief of Police Ella M. Bully-Cummings is African-American. The Mayor of the City of Detroit Kwame Kilpatrick is African-American. The majority of the top echelon of the Detroit Police Department is African-American. I guess all these people are part of the "white conspiracy" to fool the citizens of Detroit, thank you for enlightening me. BTW, I still have yet to see you provide a single source for your "numbers", I guess they didn't tell you about the need to cite sources in your debate class. I also find it ironic that you would tout your education in a post that is filled with spelling and grammar errors. It's hard to take you seriously when your posts look like they were written by a 12-year old typing on AOL Instant Messenger. | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 121 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Detroit48213, Your ignorant posts have indirectly answered all of my question. Did the D.P.S. teach you to know at least a little something about what you are speaking about? So where are those 2006 facts? Or are you going to choose to ignore that direct question because you don't know the answer and go off on some rant about my ancestory? I bet you think every white person you see had family who owned slaves. | ||
Jdkeepsmiling Member Username: Jdkeepsmiling Post Number: 84 Registered: 01-2006 Posted From: 69.216.136.175 |
How can we request that this guy be banned from the forum? I love it when people give false information and then when the real info comes out, they claim that "the man" came up with those numbers....get real and grow up!!! | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2436 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.14 |
Detroit48213, welcome to the forum. Where you are going with this thread? Is it about injustice and one that happened to you? There are many of us on this forum that are concerned when we hear it happening, would like to see it ended and the causes corrected. I am not clear if you were stopped in East Pointe because you said "when I am pulled over", not “when I was pulled over”. That implies a hypothetical, like you anticipate it happening, not that it actually happened. So? Did it happen? Why don't you describe for us what happened? Was a crime committed? Were you ticketed? Did you get a badge number? Etc. History has shown that there always a handful of rogue criminal cops. Maybe we can find them. I want them gone as much as you. | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2437 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.58.14 |
Oh yes, a couple of hints. As you can see, you don’t want to come on this forum blowing statistics out your backside. There are many very knowledgeable people on this forum. Your claims will get cut to shreds quickly. Don’t feel bad. I have learned that lesson too. Also, if you come on with all guns blazing then start saying some forum member’s ancestors came here "to rape , rob , murder, steal.....etc etc" don’t act surprised if you’re asked a simple question. What do you know about ~my~ ancestors? Well…? | ||
321brian Member Username: 321brian Post Number: 124 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 68.62.6.147 |
Lowell, Please stop! 48213 doesn't answer questions. Hopefully he doesn't get pulled over by Eugene Brown. | ||
Billybbrew Member Username: Billybbrew Post Number: 144 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 152.163.100.8 |
The few times I've had encounters with police officers, I haven't given any thought to the fact that they are black, white, woman, male. Only to their professionalism. Nor have I been discriminated against by the black or female officers (except one female years ago) that I've had encounters and dealings with. So what's your point 48213...maybe it's YOUR attitude that gets you in trouble. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 20 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
0^0 | ||
Superduperman Member Username: Superduperman Post Number: 77 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 69.242.221.36 |
There was one time I was pulled over by the state police and they asked to search my vehicle for whatever reason and I said "sure go right ahead" so they are searching and they get to my glove comparment which happens to be broke so I don't keep anything in it and they ask me about the glove compartment and I tell them "its broke and that they could force it open with a tire iron or whatever just so that they can see thats its empty and the officer is like nah that won't be necessary,so then some more white officers show up on the scene and they search my car again and again. So now police are talking amongst themselves and they come up with the idea to tow my car downn to the immigration office downtown and they actually x-rayed my car(never knew this possible) and according to them the see waht looks like a gun in my glove compartment and then they proceed to force open the glove compartment and low and behold it was empty........now all while this happening from beginning to end I'am fuming inside because you would think that this type of thing wouldn't happen in this day and age especially in Detroit but sadly it does. I love Detroit and I love its people but my patience is really running thin when it comes to overzealous and discriminatory law enforcement officers. | ||
Gdub Member Username: Gdub Post Number: 1018 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 4.229.57.196 |
It must be very depressing to be so saddled with paranoid bigotry that it becomes an all-consuming obsession. Though, in a way, I would love to have the kind of free time that people like Mr. 48213 must have, as it seems he has an abundance of free time, adequate enough to allow his thoughts to be focused on simplistic crap like the color of other people's skin. Can't say I'm jealous of an obsessive like 48213, but, really, it must be nice to have so few pending obligations that one may find the time to sit around and stew asinine ideas of conspiratorial inequality and sit down at the puter and puke them out to anyone who'll listen. I, for one, tend to try and keep too busy filling my days with positive initiatives to listen to much of his kind of b.s. anymore, and for that I'm thankful. In other words, 48213, grow up, move on, and do something positive instead of inventing conflict and yawping like a little bitch. | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 585 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.169.65 |
I'm African-American and very aware of the things that do go on in our society. I'm with Gdub. "In other words, 48213, grow up, move on, and do something positive instead of inventing conflict and yawping like a little bitch." later - naturalsister (Message edited by naturalsister on April 09, 2006) | ||
Vic_doucette Member Username: Vic_doucette Post Number: 261 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.209.170.80 |
When I went to Wayne State fewer than 10 years ago, many of the students in the journalism program were black. I had classes with them; a couple of them even interviewed me for projects or stories for the paper. Where did they all disappear to? | ||
Millingtond Member Username: Millingtond Post Number: 5 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 69.128.234.34 |
Well my advice is this, Don't cruise Gratiot through Eastpoint in your 81 Monte with the bumper falling off and most of the car in primer with your 24inch dubs and spinners. Even white people get pulled over for that stupidity. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 21 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Millingtond- You mean even European Americans get pulled over for that stupidity. (Still a redicolous statement). Any comments on anything else that I said?? Hmnnnn | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 22 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Naturalsister- I bet you stand up for the national antheum when you go to event's because you think you are an AMERICAN with full right's and privledge's. Naturalsister= The Ms Education Of The Negro. what a joke!!!! | ||
Naturalsister Member Username: Naturalsister Post Number: 587 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 68.42.169.65 |
I have 5 brothers and a Father. No mis-education in my household. BTW - My Dad actually made sure I owned and READ and UNDERSTOOD that book by Carter Godwin Woodson and several others by CGW when I was in middle-school. You don't know me so you have no idea what I do. Get a bit of time on this forum and you will get to know some of us and what we stand for. Until then: "In other words, 48213, grow up, move on, and do something positive instead of inventing conflict and yawping like a little bitch." Gdub later - naturalsister | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2441 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.210.27 |
Detroit48213 never actually said he was pulled over. So were you pulled over in East Pointe or not? If so what happened? Details please. We are now fully informed of your perceptions and opinions. But you have told us nothing, only made accusations and given us your opinions, not facts. Attacking people on the forum with unfounded assumptions about them does not count. Time is running short; we're waiting. | ||
Tarkus Member Username: Tarkus Post Number: 2 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.43.117.118 |
Don't forget the European Americans are the minority in the City of Detroit. We must keep things fair for the minority. LOL. Turnabout is such fair play. | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 32 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 64.25.200.14 |
Police can make generalizations not regarding race. There are often other factors, which are often supported by statistical data. For example, its believed (and actually proven in a case a couple of years ago) that patrolmen on m20 in Midland County pull over college students commuting to and from Mt. PLeasant in situations where they would often let older drivers go. Statisticly we do drive faster, but that doesn't make it right. I say this not to change the subject from racial profiling but I guess to ask you Detroit48213, if you were pulled over in Eastpointe, what other reasons might you have been pulled over for? Perhaps even a legitimate reason? I'm just saying that just because you were pulled over by a white cop doesn't necessarily mean he was a racist. | ||
Fnemecek Member Username: Fnemecek Post Number: 1555 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.212.37.62 |
Gee, that's funny. I was at the Northwestern District last week to file a report. Of the eight officers that I saw, only one was white. Detroit48213 -> proudly demonstrating his ignorance and cowardice from his Momma's basement. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 23 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Naturalsister- Reading and comprehension are two different thing's!!! Why you feel a need to protect MASTA is no surprise to me!- Lowell (Board Administrator) My topic when I started this thread was to point out the obvious discrepancies in hiring practices in Detroit and the suburbs. Have I ever been pulled over by the Eastpointe, Farmington Hills, Bloomfield Hills, Grosse Pointe, Melvindale, Warren, Sterling Heights, Detroit ( European American), and Novi police department's and given tickets for made up (lie's ) reasons??? YEEEEEESSS!! Most recently in Detroit. The European American officers gave me a ticket for endangering traffic for driving my car in the right lane to slowly ( on flat trying to get to next gas station with emergency flashers on). they smiled in my face as they left. So in frustration I did over state the percentages of European American officers compared to African American officers on the Detroit police force. But my original premise is if 33%( if it is that low, I believe it is higher based on my eyesight but I will get number's tomorrow mornig) of the police officers in Detroit are European American, and European Americans only make up 10% of Detroit's population how come african americans are 10% of the population in Warren and not 30% of there police force? Im sure that someone is going to challenge my numbers and not my statement. Please do not insult my intelligence and say that African Americans cant pass the drug test or they are not smart enough. Lowell (Administrator )- you are not even close to being fully informed of my PERCEPTIONS and OPINIONS. THE AMERICAN WAY IS TO CENSOR THE TRUTH. If you are threatening to delete me then go ahead. usa usa usa usausa usa usa | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2442 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.210.27 |
Okay, we're getting somewhere. Since you don't mention it, should we take it that you weren't pulled over in East Pointe afterall, only in Detroit? Regarding your incident in Detroit, did the cops tell you why you were ticketed, like you should have pulled your car off the road rather than drive on a flat and hold traffic up? Why wouldn't you do that, pull off to the side and put your spare tire on? Did you fight the ticket? | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 25 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
These people are lieing. This cant be happening in the great USA USA USA in 2006. No way dude! It must be a figment of there imagination. They should quit crying and move on!!!! http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060405/NEW S05/604050424 | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2443 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.210.27 |
Old news^^ on this forum. https://www.atdetroit.net/forum/mes sages/5/69902.html?1144607239 How about answering the questions you have been asked rather than trying to change topics. | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 1135 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
What a tragic thread. However, Detroit_stylin and Super_d will be very proud of you. GOD bless you anyway. DWB is a serious enough offense in this country and should not be trivialized in such a manner. This "account" of being pulled over simply because you are a Black male pales in comparison to real or perceived notions of this actually happening. So you were angry because you were pulled over (probably) because of a minor traffic violation. Rather than accepting responsibility for your actions, you make up a bogus claim and lash out unnecessarily at members of this forum. DWB is a manifestation of how low the gangsta rap culture has sunk the image of Black America--men and women. If you want this phenomenon to end (i. e. DWB), then put the gangsta rap artists out of business by not buying the junk they pump on our radio airwaves. That is why I am all for "bootlegged" music. The more that is bought and sold the more the bottom line will suffer thus making these rap artists a figment of our imagination (hopefully anyway). I think we are on our way to putting this "minstrel industry" out of business. After all, Suge Knight, filed for bankruptcy this week. Hopefully more will follow. | ||
Detroit48213 Member Username: Detroit48213 Post Number: 26 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.79.166.5 |
Shave - Are you trying to say that I must look like a rapper and that is why a 44 year old with grey hair African American male is stopped? Intelligent responses PLEASE!!!!!! I know America is a joke, but suppossedly you can look any way you want in " AMERICA". Lowell - Old news would be if this happened in the 50's & 60's this is hardly old news! And as far as changing topic's, these story's are very much related because when the European American police officer goe's home from work at the end of the day they kiss their spouse who has just arrived home also from their job as a REAL ESTATE AGENT! lowell - As I stated in my earlier post the so-called officer gave me a ticket for endangering traffic. There was no traffic to speak of. I was in the right lane heading south on gratiot between 6 & 7 mile @7:30 pm. I dont know how old you are Lowell but your questions sound pretty nieve in nature but I realize that all you have to go by is a European American affirmative privledged perspective. I see that you are trying to rationalize an irrational act. I have never heard of any one getting a ticket for driving on a flat in the far right during non peak hours with no traffic behind them- Im Out - PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 09, 2006) (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 09, 2006) (Message edited by detroit48213 on April 09, 2006) | ||
Shave Member Username: Shave Post Number: 1136 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
Detroit48213, No I am not. I am just pointing out the obvious: the gangsta rap culture has made all of Black America look bad. Black society at large is a victim of these "artists" so-called "success." | ||
Lowell Board Administrator Username: Lowell Post Number: 2445 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.167.210.27 |
Well if that is the case, why didn't you fight the ticket? Sounds to me like you would have had a pretty good argument for it being tossed. | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 33 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 64.25.200.14 |
Detroit48213 I don't understand. You have a choice. If Detroit is so bad, the region is so bad, and judging by your "I know America is a joke," comment the country is so bad, why do you choose to live here? | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 210 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.76.53.158 |
If you talk to the police the way you talk to people on the forum, it is no wonder you get tickets. | ||
Karl Member Username: Karl Post Number: 1927 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 68.230.22.99 |
Detroit48213, I read this rather quickly so may have missed it - are you posting this from jail, or did you already get out? Surely for the violations you mentioned, those European American cops must have locked you up? | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 831 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
'D48213'__ you're wasting your time__ 'y-t' ain't gonna understand your dilema, because the majority of the 'sub-urbanites' on this forum are active participates in the universal operational system of white supremacy! Brotha 'Ras' so rightly pointed out once before, quoting the profound words of Neely Fuller Jr.... " If you don't understand white supremacy(racism)__what it is, and how it works__ everything else that you think you understand, will only confuse you." ya' herd! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3510 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
You're right, Super D. This forum is just a bastion for closed-minded, racist, White folks who hate Detroit and its "Blackness." Secretly, they all plot the complete collapse of Detroit. I even hear the White members of this forum hold Klan meetings on Sunday nights. I'm so glad I have you, Ras, and the other Black Nationalist to represent us Black folk so well on these forums. Your knowledge and worldviews are invaluable assets. We can't allow these White Supremacists, and their racist Grand/Imperial Dragon/Wizard, Lowell, to spew lies and hate...etc. You don't know? You better ask somebody! Man, do I wish there was some way to fully emote my overstatured sarcasm. (Message edited by lmichigan on April 09, 2006) | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 832 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 64.12.116.204 |
'L.Michigan' stated....
I'm sure you are good at that!__ 'y-t' loves it when we are 'slap-happy'! Hey! ain't this a quote from one of your hero's... "What's past is prologue" -william shakespeare super d(motordetroit) | ||
Moreta Member Username: Moreta Post Number: 195 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 209.131.7.68 |
Note to self: ignore everything super d posts in the future. Carry on. | ||
Thecarl Member Username: Thecarl Post Number: 684 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.14.30.175 |
question: how do things change? or at least, show some improvement? also, one thing struck me...even if the detroit police did have the same racial makeup as the city's demographic...there is still a possibility of black-on-black racism, i'm sure. and, at some point you have to give people credit for taking what they've learned, in the context of their own conscience and consciousness, and making their own decisions. i'm not so sure everyone is as brainwashed into obeying and implementing the so-called european code that holds african-americans in perpetual subjugation. we can hope for change, but the story of the human race is one filled with tales of injustice and oppression. so, what are the practical limits of acceptance, and how do we begin to achieve it? | ||
Andyguard73 Member Username: Andyguard73 Post Number: 34 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 64.25.200.14 |
I'm sorry guys, I don't know how to link to other threads, but Livedog started one that I think relates closely to this one that you may want to check out. It's definitely some food for thought. The thread is entitled "Do you think Political Correctness is useful?" | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3511 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Super D, I'm anything but slap happy. Old World European ideology has caused much more harm than good in modern times, speading like a cancer ten-times the world over. But, my personal view of the current situation is irrelevant, right now. I'm here simply to call you on your B.S. and over-the-top, almost cartoon-character-like persona that poisons meaningful debate. It is exactly because of your irresponsible and poisonous indictments and manifestos that greater society can't take us seriously, and why we have just as equally a hard time taking ourselves seriously. Most people don't take the Klan seriously, so why in the hell should they take people on direct opposite side of the spectrum any more seriously? I'm sorry that you think two wrongs make a right, and that you fight hate with even more hate, but I'm not going to sit by and let hate go unconfronted, regardless of who it comes from. | ||
Swingline Member Username: Swingline Post Number: 443 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 4.229.60.52 |
Detroit48213, welcome to the forum. Your first posts clearly show that you are either a troll (perhaps even a pasty faced white teenager abusing the DSL line Mommy and Daddy just installed) or a profoundly angry and racist adult who clearly has no respect for the people from whom he supposedly desires intelligent debate. You've successfully reminded all of us white supremecists on this board with your first posts that we are all racists. It must have been very important to you to do so since you felt the need to get it out so quickly. Thank you. However, in performing this important public service (on behalf of whom I'm not sure), I fear that you have poisoned your ability to engage anybody in here in any civil conversation in the future. I suggest that you re-register under a new name and give it another try. There's no hard feelings here. Oh, and one other thing, you really have no use for white folks, do you? Just wondering. Anyways, good luck. | ||
Bertz Member Username: Bertz Post Number: 544 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.61.15.89 |
Detroit48213 = William X ? | ||
Smogboy Member Username: Smogboy Post Number: 2253 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.47.100.44 |
Why is it trolls can't seem to spell? And in the immortal words of Rodney King- "Why can't we call just get along?" | ||
Pamequus Member Username: Pamequus Post Number: 19 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 158.229.218.204 |
Seems to me the racism I have seen in this thread, and many others, is not coming from white folks. Can you tell me why it's okay for Americans that are African but not Americans from other ethnic backgrounds?? | ||
Danny Member Username: Danny Post Number: 3945 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.229 |
Detroit48213, Warren's black population is 4%. Now if you look at the demographics of race in the suburban police force. Mostly a predominately white suburbs will have a predominately white police unless you have a city that is mixed. Then the amount of police force in the suburban city determines a group of race. Now take Southfield Police for example even though the majority black, it's police force of majority white. | ||
Jjw Member Username: Jjw Post Number: 73 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 68.33.56.156 |
new lows | ||
Drdetroit Member Username: Drdetroit Post Number: 1 Registered: 04-2006 Posted From: 68.249.45.103 |
I am a white (European ) male from Indian Village. To tell the truth, a lot of what Detroit48213 is saying is true. | ||
Bagman Member Username: Bagman Post Number: 56 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.220.68.161 |
DETROIT 48213 - Your racist crap about being European Americans because of white skin shows how stupid you are....White people from South Africa who come here are AFRICAN AMERICANs dumbass, not European, just like all black are not criminals even though the WCJ is full of blacks.....But back to racial profiling....when you take an all white police force and decide that as the city changes (more black faces) and you want the police department to reflect the community that fact that the new incomming officers have black skin doen not mean that they are "down with da cause" they become WHITE just like the guy who trained them...The Detroit police force may look black but it acts as white as can be.....I live in the Cass Corridor and you bet being WHITE..As I walk around my neighborhood I get stopped all the time by the pigs asking me if I am lost.....I have been detained three differant as they checked to see if I was the "white " guy they had a BOL (be on the lookout) for....I will step out on a ledge and tell you if you live in this city today and you are black you have no idea what it is like to be a real minority.....I walk into stores and businesses where they are shocked to see a white face and have even told me so....but I have money and that is the great equalizer....along with a Walther PPK | ||
Bagman Member Username: Bagman Post Number: 57 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 69.220.68.161 |
Detroit 48213 - One more thing....I know you like the ability to spew your trash talk online because no one knows who you are....but when I read crazy shit like you posted from someone who just started posting, I figure some little kid found DetroitYes.com and when your parents find out what you have done they will take away your computer and you will disapear from the list........You will be missed of course at this rate you WILL be banned in no time.....are odds being given on this one folks? | ||
Oldredfordette Member Username: Oldredfordette Post Number: 612 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 65.6.177.36 |
*I know I'm going to be sorry, but I'm wading in here* Racial profiling is evil and terrible and cannot be excused. I live in Royal Oak and see it nearly every day. I can certainly believe that in a place like Eastpointe, a city that changed its name so it wouldn't be associated with evil old black Detroit, had a cop who pulled a young African American youth over for a DWB. Where I can't get aboard is the ridiculous statistics and the blast of prejudice brought on by 48213. If you're not a troll, you should take a moment and give some of the very nice people on this forum - particularly Lowell - a chance. In the words of Bruce Springsteen, on every street in America, you got nice guys and assholes. You might be right about some of us, but I know for a fact you are wrong too. | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 76 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
You're all wasting your time with Detroit48213. He's got just what he wanted, "free rent" in all of ya'lls head's! You talk to someone when there is hope for change but when you get no where then you let the process work. The process is either you work on your problems or your problems work on you. If you chose to work on your prolems then you have the opprtunity to get to something called healing.  Or, if you chose not to work on your prolems you let the process work on you and you end up here.  Either way IT WILL GET WORKED OUT! Life's all about chooses and you get to chose, Detroit48213. Whatcha gona do Detroit48213? Like the Barberman said, "Next!" Livedog2  | ||
Hardhat Member Username: Hardhat Post Number: 117 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.148.30.181 |
Well barked, Dog | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1974 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.105.74 |
Well stated Oldrefordette and Livedog2! My question is this.... where do Detroit48213, Super_d, William_X, Mellodrama and Rasputin get all of their "I am the victim" hate venom? It all sounds so very similar... they must be reading the same propoganda. We know they must all read the Michigan Citizen, they all eschew the same anti-Archer anti-Hendrix party line. But what other hate mongering propoganda do they read that makes them so hateful against all things "European"? From a historical perspective, it is ironic that in the early 20th century such black entertainers such as Josephine Baker and Louis Armstrong spent much time in Europe since they were much more tolerant of blacks than folks were in segregated America. But now with their revisionist mindset, it looks like all things European were evil. How convenient! | ||
Livedog2 Member Username: Livedog2 Post Number: 80 Registered: 03-2006 Posted From: 24.223.133.177 |
Gistok, it doesn’t have anything to do with race or racism, I’ll wager! It’s about personal responsibility. If you haven’t evolved emotionally, intellectually and/or spiritually then you are not enjoying the fruits of life as you see them, around you. Within that definition of lack of evolution is the lack of personal responsibility for asking the most important question any person can ask in their entire life: First of all the question has to be directed to the self and the question needs to be, “What was my part in me not enjoying the benefits I see others in society enjoying?” The important follow-up question needs to be, “What can I do about it?” Finally, the last item on the agenda is “Here is my plan for achieving my goal(s).” It’s simple to say but not easy to do, for any of us! We can only be victims when we are in our childhood when we are powerless to control the forces of action around us. Children are truly victims of their misfortune. We can also be the victim of something, anything one time, you pick it – racism, poverty, lack of education. But, once you have had the insight to see your victimization then it is ON YOU because you have become enlightened on that topic. Now, it’s into action and doing something about it.  Livedog2 | ||
Super_d Member Username: Super_d Post Number: 833 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Well goosh dog! 'Livedog2' is willing to wager! Spoken like a true amerikkkan!!!__stressing the behavioral impediments of Black mobility__referring to the protestant ethic__work yo' ass off, deferred gratification, and the tired ass line of 'personal responsliblity"(pick yo' self up by yo' bootstraps!)......Hence, only certain kinds of Black people deserve high positions, that is, those who accept the rules of the 'Big Lie' told by white amerikkka! (ppppplease!) 'Livedog2' you don't even believe that! What text did you copy that from(sounds familiar)__is plagiarism a crime? I ain't mad 'atcha' dog! Ya' gotta do what you do! Some of histories greatest speakers, educators, singers, rappers where plagiarist!........ And please, please please 'Livedog2', chill wit' the reverse racist hate sh*t, I know it will help you sleep better at night--I know you get a 'hard-on' thinking that Black folk believe 'y-t' is holding a brotha' back--not the case dog! 'Black Rage' and 'white racism' are rooted differently To be sure, on the subject of race,within the construct of white supermacy, white and Black perspectives share an unequal starting place of reasonable bias__the difficulty in that, is it neglects the history of how Black and white interests are unequally measured in determining what was looked at as reasonable in the beginning__right? In otherwords whites have long set the limitations for what is accepted as common sense or received wisdom on the subject of race. (dey ain't try'n to hear a brotha' kick'n the truth!) On the subject of Black rage, we are responding to a verifiable history of racial inequality, not hatred.... we view the criminal system with suspicion, all white juries, we are suspicious of the police, we hold skepticism of the guard in the supermarket, 911 operators, retail sales person, car sales people, real estate people and the like....the very similiar inequalities and double standards that some of our greatest Black leaders protested so bravely and brilliantly to help soften some of the inequalities that Blacks face today.....thank God they didn't continue to sit in the back of the bus! Ain't no hateration here ya'll peace-out! super d(motordetroit) | ||
Moreta Member Username: Moreta Post Number: 197 Registered: 09-2004 Posted From: 69.133.84.29 |
I'm going to say this once and only once on this forum. It is people like Super d, Rasputin, and William X (etc) that taught the children I went to school with to hate me. It was people like these that caused me to be called 'whitey' and have things thrown at me on the school bus. It is people like these that perpetuate racist ideals and gave that little boy license to drag me across a gravel lot calling me a 'white bitch' when I was seven. It is people like these that infected the mind of the teenaged girl that attacked me just for walking in front of her house, because 'whitey' didn't belong in her neighborhood (although I lived six blocks away). It is people like these that shouted 'get your white a** out of here' to a friend of mine who dared stop at a grocery store in a predominately black neighborhood. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these people is the very fellow that railed at me on the bus for all the injustices of life, telling me it was my white self's fault and I should be ashamed of all the people that came before me in my family. I'll never forget that parting shot as I got off at my stop, "And don't you bring no more white children into this world, bitch, or we'll find some way to take 'em out." I was thirteen. Our children are learning from you, ladies and gentlemen. Choose carefully what you teach them. | ||
Swingline Member Username: Swingline Post Number: 453 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 172.131.184.98 |
48213, most folks in here can read just fine. And your message is coming through loud and clear. |
