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Blessyouboys
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WXYZ-TV (Channel 7) news anchor Frank Turner is asking people to pray for divine intervention to sway Channel 7 to allow him to host a religious radio show on Christian WEXL-AM (1340).

Turner bills himself as “America’s First Evangelical Anchorman” on www.frankturner.org, a site devoted to his off-camera religious pursuits.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060313/NEW S11/60313012




Is it wishful thinking to say that this publicity will help WXYZ management realize Turner's ongoing Christian commentary and on-air Jesus recruiting is inappropriate for a respected newscaster?
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Livernoisyard
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Frank had a running dispute with the public schools in Lansing concerning the manner in which (according to him) they were not properly educating his step kids (or the kids of his woman). Maybe it would be refreshing to have him expound on this again after some seven or eight years.
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321brian
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It is amazing that he is even still on the air in this town.

I would have gotten as far away from here as possible if I were him.

I can't even watch him. We all know way too much about F.T.
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Lowell
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Old C&W song line about televangalists...

"They say, 'Send your money to Jesus',
But they give your their address."

His website seems little more than a shill for his religious swag.
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Goat
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As a member of the media he must be impartial. If he keeps his comments and religious beliefs to himself while on the air there should be no problem. But if he mentions either one on either program he should be let go.
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Metrodetguy
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Hopefully that same type of impartiality can extend to schools.
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Eastside
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...seems everybody is "player hating" today.
Frank tha man.
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Livernoisyard
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While I was an undergrad TA in the broadcasting department at the U. of Wis some 40 years ago (senior in electrical engineering), one of my lab students confused the Fairness Doctine with the FCC rules for equal time for elections. He stated that if one religion was ever mentioned at all, all "other viewpoints" should be granted equal time.

So I responded by asking him if he wanted to grant equal time or fair treatment to "evil." He was caught so flat-footed so as to have no come-back.

(Message edited by LivernoisYard on March 13, 2006)
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Jimelnino
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Well, I do think anchormen should be impartial, however, it seems to me that anchormen seem to be rather impartial by default, I mean all they do is read off a prompter. Frank does tend to make off the cuff remakrs that let you know how he really feels about something, but it doesn't bother me.

I dont know, I think he should be allowed to do what he wants, as long as he doesn't reference his job at WXYZ, I dont think it would be a big deal.

Although I think he should recondiser the format of this radio show, a show discussing the pros and cons of different 1-900 numbers would get MUCH higher ratings :-)

-Jim
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Metrodetguy
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Maybe Turner's "Christian commentary", etc. is just trying to get viewers to "think more critically" by "offering an alternative viewpoint".
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Frank Turner's laugh is unbearable on channel 7 lol. He lives out here in Brighton, and I see him often at around town and at the gym I belong too...cruisin in his white escalade...

Interestingly enough, my mom talked to him about possibly coming into my newspaper class to discuss the media and his job, etc. My mom also mentioned to him that I was interested in Detroit and Detroit politics. He asked my mom if I called my self a Christian, she said yes. He then said that I cannot consider myself a Christian if I am interested in the media or Detroit politics. He refused to talk to the class because he said that he was only working for Channel 7 for a paycheck, and as a Christian could never condone such a thing....
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321brian
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F.T. sucks.

Your mom should have given him a crack pipe and a phone card and asked him what Christian activities he used to enjoy with them.
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Broken_main
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Hmmmm, he sure has changed. I trust that he is definitely on the right track now. I know someone who works for the media and I can understand Frank's comments about being a Christian and being in the media. I am privvy to a lot of the bad things they do just to get a story
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Motorcitymayor2026
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he appears to have changed, and I respect him for that. BUT, if he is this born again Christian and realizes that his job in the media is soo horrible that I cannot call myself a Christian for being interested in the media, I think he is a bit of a hypocrite. Anyway, I dont think he had any right to tell me that I dont have the right to call myself a Christian...
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Broken_main
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Thats true motor, It put's him in the position of judge and the Bible does state that there is only one judge.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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yea..

well hopefully he is taking his new standpoint to try and point out the problems with the media, and not using his position to publicize his website and personal appearances..
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321brian
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I'm not sure Frank should be judging anyone.

Sure he has changed and turned his life around. Which I totally respect. What I don't respect is him throwing his religon everywhere. It's just a turnoff.

I'm OK, your OK. Let's all move on.
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Motorcitymayor2026
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree.

I dont mind him promoting Christianity, but it appears he is more about promoting "Frank Turner"
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Michigansheik
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Frank, quit your day job and go for it!
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Smogboy
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If his religon means that much to him then quit his gig at WXYZ.

Obviously there is some conflict going on here or he wouldn't be making an appeal to the public. He obviously wants his six figure a year job AND be able to preach, but if one of them says you can't or shouldn't then the choice is Frank's.
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K8cpa
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I somehow doubt his "Testimony" and his "Salvation"

See my site for what TRUE salvation REALLY is..:

http://savedbygrace.home.comca st.net/jesus.html

(Message edited by k8cpa on March 14, 2006)
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Gravitymachine
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I have never liked his anchoring, nor his schmaltzy, over-generalized editorials at the end of some broadcasts...the guy really has no place in a proffesional journalistic setting as far as I'm concerned (though I'm not quite sure if channel 7 qualifies as one or not lol)
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Llyn
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K8cpa, stay off my side please...
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Bob
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Evangelical's drive me nuts. I don't mind them if they can keep their opinions to themselves, but to many times they feel they know what is best for you. Religion is a personal thing and it needs to be kept that way. And Frank needs to shave that stupid out of control mustache off. I hate when he rants on the news.
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K8cpa
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Bob,

I agree... FWIW though... I am not a Evangelical. I am a Fundamental Baptist. and a KJV reader too. :-) Key difference between the two? Doctrine. We don't water down the Gospel, like they do.

-Chuck
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K8cpa
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Llyn,

What are you talking about?

-C
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Goat
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K8cpa, I just looked at your site and I believe all of those things but that doesn't make me a born again Christian, it makes me what I am...a sinner and a Roman Catholic.

As long as you don't force your religion on others, not to mention allow for those to have their own beliefs there will be a place for you in heaven.

Kudos to Frank Turner for getting off the pipe (if that is in fact true) and turning his life back around.
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Smogboy
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Bob- well said. Religon IS a personal thing. Not one person or institution has a hotline with God or their creator. Each of us can speak directly to them ourselves. We don't need a Frank Turner or any other evangelical mouthpiece lecturing to us telling us we're not talking to God in the right way and then 20 seconds later, have ANOTHER person telling us different. They can't seem to agree on it so I say we all find our own way to God.
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Blessyouboys
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Here's a quick example of how Frank Turner has his personal beliefs affect his journalistic responsibility:


I think it was a few months back when the 6/7pm? newscast had two people in studio discussing some prospective anti-hate speech legislation, and big Frank was the moderator. You could tell Frank was becoming agitated whenever the pro guy would talk. So Frank said something to the effect of, “What if I said Jesus Christ is my lord and savior--is that considered hate speech!?”

The question was way off topic and in my opinion completely off-color. Keep that shit to yourself, Franky, and quit steering everything towards your Jesus and yourself.
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Jfre66_77
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I find it ironic that there are so many people out there like FT, who have a lot of demons in their past, and who have made so many bad decisions in their lives, feel that they are so uniquely qualified in directing the rest of us how we should live our lives.

I have never been a drug/sex/alcohol/gambling/900- number or any other kind of addict in my life. Granted I am not the pope, but I go to work every day, pay my taxes, cut my lawn, love my family, obey the law and try to respect those around me. Why in the name of god would I need someone like FT, (or Jerry Falwell, Jim Baker) or any other one of these self-appointed, self-righteous know-it-alls to offer their advice on how to live life?

If you want to preach, become a preacher and deliver your message to a group of people who actually want to hear what you have to say. The vast majority of us just would just like to get through the day without having to hear these "enlightened" folks tell us how to live our lives.
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Superduperman
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he looks like one of those 70's porn stars....
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Smogboy
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Jfre66_77- I'd much rather follow your way of life than ol' Frank Turner's any day of the week. Just because he did all of those stupid things doesn't give him any brighter insight than the rest of us who knew not to fall down that path to begin with.

And it's not that the people who think they're enlightened are any better than us- it's just the fact that they want to also let us know HOW much wrong we're doing as well. It's one thing to be genuinely interested and caring and it's another thing to be condescending.
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Jfre66_77
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Religion aside, there is one simple rule in life - treat others the way you wish to be treated. Respect for other people, a sense of humor, and the ability to laugh at yourself once in awhile are the only things I preach.
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Bob
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Expect to hear a lot more about evangelicals in the coming months, one most likely is running for governor (DeVos). I would have to say it will probably be coming from other people than DeVos himself, he is going to try to be a moderate as possible trying to win the Metro Detroit vote.

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