Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2375 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:20 am: | |
Colorado HS teacher compared Bush to Hitler This story has made national news. It also has a disturbing local connection. I knew this clown when he was a high school student in Birmingham during the mid 1990s. It is quite disturbing not only to hear his comments, but to know that he is a teacher. He was known to be not only a pretty big drug abuser but also a racist (especially against Black and Asian people) who was rumored to have Nazi connections of some sort (how ironic). How the heck did he end up at the other end of the (equally distasteful) spectrum? **I hope calling this guy out doesn't violate the terms of use of this forum, but I thought it was important to bring this up after seeing it on Fox2.** http://www.denverpost.com/news /ci_3560566 http://www.rockymountainnews.c om/drmn/education/article/0,12 99,DRMN_957_4508688,00.html http://www.9news.com/acm_news. aspx?OSGNAME=KUSA&IKOBJECTID=b 8298706-0abe-421a-0116-75e16c4 49518&TEMPLATEID=0c76dce6-ac1f -02d8-0047-c589c01ca7bf |
Czar Member Username: Czar
Post Number: 2947 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 72.49.166.173
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:21 am: | |
Damn that First Amendment anyway, let's put Alberto Gonzalez on this right away. |
Arab_guyumich Member Username: Arab_guyumich
Post Number: 761 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 69.14.179.212
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:27 am: | |
Detroit??? |
Llyn
Member Username: Llyn
Post Number: 1444 Registered: 06-2004 Posted From: 68.61.197.206
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 9:39 am: | |
Met guy... just curious, how do you know he's the same guy? The political shift seems bizarre. |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 3769 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.174.235
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 9:54 am: | |
President Bush is Hitler! That Colorado teacher is right after all. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 802 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.73.162
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:02 am: | |
Oh Metrodetguy ...the outrage! How will you bear this? You are in our hearts and prayers. |
Docmo Member Username: Docmo
Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 24.8.46.119
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:15 am: | |
Danny, I thought LBP was Hitler. Which is it? Or, are we all Hitlers in your mind? |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 374 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.221.66.98
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:32 am: | |
Barbara Rose Collins is Hitler!...She shaved the mustache. |
Chow Member Username: Chow
Post Number: 263 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.109.26.164
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 11:45 am: | |
Meh, Bush is more like Mussolini anyway... |
Rberlin Member Username: Rberlin
Post Number: 408 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.208.244.183
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 12:20 pm: | |
I like what Jon Stewart said, "When you compare people to Hitler, you insult them, you insult yourself, and quite frankly, you insult Hitler. That man worked to long and to hard to be that evil." Something like that anyway. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2376 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 69.221.75.160
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
Llyn, Fox2 showed his picture and played a clip of a student's recording of one of his class "lectures". I double checked with the national stories (Drudge, Fox, MSNBC, etc.) as well as the Denver media. |
Fury13
Member Username: Fury13
Post Number: 976 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.204
| Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 9:00 pm: | |
C'mon now, let's all pull together, quit bickering, and support President Hitler. |
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765
Post Number: 723 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.24.183
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 12:50 am: | |
"Barbara Rose Collins is Hitler!...She shaved the mustache." I hate to tell ya dude, but i can still see a bit of her stache there...look close. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2139 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.163.181.81
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 1:27 pm: | |
could be worse: courtesy of Drudge: Prof resigns over graphic videoA Grand Rapids Community College professor resigned after allegedly showing ten seconds of a sexually explicit video in his criminal justice class. Professor Samuel Naves resigned after the story appeared on the front page of the GRCC newspaper. ... The campus paper said students were watching clips about criminal justice from Naves’ e-mail when he flipped past the clip. According to the paper, students begged to see it. Naves warned them it was an explicit clip of a man having sex with a pig. ... ... The dean said Naves is no longer teaching his classes and that the behavior may have violated state and local laws. ... Deliverance us from evil .... |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2380 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.78.111
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 3:20 pm: | |
Rustic, I'm not so sure that the GRCC case is worse in the larger sense of things. The Colorado case involves a person with a very sketchy background attempting to unduly influence 10th graders (15-16 yr olds) versus a person showing a 10 second pornographic clip to (consenting, "begged to see it") adults (18 and over). |
Irish_mafia Member Username: Irish_mafia
Post Number: 376 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.221.66.98
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 5:45 pm: | |
Mauser, I was kind of hoping to avoid that... |
Danny Member Username: Danny
Post Number: 3771 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 141.217.173.169
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 5:48 pm: | |
If we are racists, facists, Jew, Black and Catholic haters. Then you will become like Hitler. |
Bostedguy Member Username: Bostedguy
Post Number: 338 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.246.19.150
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 5:51 pm: | |
don't forget gay haters, too. Right, Danny? |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2108 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.57.75
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:35 pm: | |
I always just thought Bush was an idiot. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2144 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.163.181.81
| Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 9:54 pm: | |
I dunno MDG, some doofus HS teacher blathering on apparently about his crackpot ideology (how that "unduly influence[s]" HS kids I'm not sure ... but anyway) vs a college prof creating an inappropriate academic environment by bringing and showing bizzare pornography (unrelated to his curriculum of course) ... IMO the college prof is worse just from the sexual harrassment POV ... now maybe since you apparently know the HS teacher personally you know something we don't ... but who knows what kinda sicko the college prof might be if he is getting pig sex tapes in his professional e-mail, imagine what HIS HS friends might be saying about him right now ... |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2146 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.163.181.81
| Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 1:52 am: | |
MDG, on the other hand ya do have a point re the pig sex movie, it could have been a lot worse ... it could have been the Kid Rock MMFF 4some sex tape ... |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2383 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.76.131
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 2:43 pm: | |
Rustic, several points for you. 1. Most people know that 15 and 16 year old teenagers are more impressionable than adults over the age of 18. 2. The GRCC incident was apparently after class and the students themselves requested to see it. The CO incident was during class with little to no choice by the students since it was under the guise of their academic lesson (unrelated to the curriculum of course...rants about the State of the Union, capitalism, Bush, etc. don't have anything to do with World Geography). 3. Bennish was previously warned about his antics in the classroom (previous complaint by a student and parent, "settled" after a meeting with them and school officials). This is a pattern in his behavior. As I recall, he has thumbed his nose at authority since his mid teenage years. This type of behavior (including his sketchy past) does not make for good qualities in a teacher. |
Rustic Member Username: Rustic
Post Number: 2149 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 130.132.177.245
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 2:48 pm: | |
MDG, but you DO agree with me about Kid Rock at least? right? lol! |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 880 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 63.41.8.247
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 4:08 pm: | |
Kid Rock? What about Eminem? Found at some Russian photoshop site; some amazing PS skills, but also some bizarre 'shops Seriously, WTF??? |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2388 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.141.76.131
| Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 5:00 pm: | |
For the likes of Czar and Pffft anything goes (a teacher with highly questionable character and a sordid past, repeatedly violating school district policy, etc.) as long as he gets your type of message out. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2398 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.86.155
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:15 pm: | |
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060308/S CHOOLS/603080395 Bush bashing by teacher spurs threats Colorado man compares president to Hitler; angry callers target Mich. family, student who taped lesson. Death threats are certainly wrong, however, I wouldn't be so quick to necessarily believe his parents claims, given the type of behavior they permitted from their sons as teenagers. Also, based on that same line of reasoning, I'd hate to see what his mother is teaching those elementary schools students. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 814 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.72.241
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 10:37 pm: | |
Metrodetroitguy, you've been spewing some pretty out there stuff about this guy. I hope you can document it. |
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard
Post Number: 251 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 10:43 pm: | |
Ace of Spades Exclusive: Jay Bennish's Geography Pop Quiz You will have 10 minutes to complete this test. Please mark all answers clearly. You will be judged on your knowledge of world geography, of both the actual and "holistic" types. 1. What river did conquistador Hernando DeSoto discover? a) The Mississippi River b) The Missouri River c) The Rio Grande d) What river did he discover? Discover? As if there weren't a diverse and ecologocially-sensitive people living there for 5000 peaceful years of enlightened communal property sharing before. Yeah, kind of like Hitler "discovered" the Sudetenland, right? You know what I'm talkin' about. 2. Which of the following natural resources does the US have the least of? a) Uranium b) Gold c) Forestland/Timber d) Freedom. It's as precious as gold and as bright as diamonds, and that's the name of that tune. Instead of drilling in the Arctic for oil, Bush should be drilling in his own black heart for freedom, baby. 3. What separates England from continental Europe? a) The Irish Sea b) The English Channel c) A history of promoting human slavery, both actual and constructive, in the form of the vicious capitalism imposed on the world by the cannons of British warships, and a jingoistic militaristic fascism in the form of a disgusting monarchy and repressive class system. You should write this **** in your notebook, kid. This is all pure gold I'm giving you here. d) Both b and c, but mostly c. They got the Chunnel and **** now to bridge the first one. 4. I just sparked up before class and I've got a serious case of the munchies. Anyone have any Doritos, Ho-Ho's, or even Chuckles-brand licorice treats? a) I've got Doritos (bring them up and grade your own test) b) I've got Ho-Ho's (bring them up and choose your own grade for this semester) c) I've got Chuckles (stay in your seat; I'm waitin' to see if someone has anything better; plus, those black ones taste like filth) d) I've got a fresh cheesesteak sandwhich drippin' hot grease in my desk (meet me out in the parking lot and we'll share some cheestake and spleef; plus, you can have my sweet ride, a 1984 Chevette with a picture of Marvin the Martian in the hatchback window) 5. The film The Wall seems pretty incomprehensible, but it makes perfect sense if you watch it high. a) Not really a question here. b) I'm just sayin', I got really baked last night and the whole thing just really gelled for me. c) Ralph McQaurrie's animations are really freaky and scary when you're high, though. Jesus! I swear, that one judge looks like a butt-hole or somethin'. I'm tellin' you, I think he's a giant dumper in a barrister's wig. d) I guess no one has a cheesesteak, huh? Okay, how about those Chuckles? Put down your pencils. Let's skip the test and go outside and lay in the sun and just "rap" about current events. Or other interesting topics, like if the universe really exists, or if it's just some magical vision dreamed by a cosmic unicorn. I know I smell a cheesesteak. Who's holding out on me? |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2400 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.86.155
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 10:46 pm: | |
Likewise Pffft, be careful who you align yourself with. It might not be a pretty picture. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 815 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.72.241
| Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 10:48 pm: | |
Seeing that this guy's parents have lawyers, and you're calling him a Nazi here, I'd be a little more careful for Lowell's sake. And thank you, I choose with whom I'll align myself, I don't let young Birmingham punks choose. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2401 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 71.144.86.155
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:09 am: | |
Pffft perhaps you should be a lot more careful and take your own advice for Lowell's sake. I also have an attorney and do not appreciate you accusing me of calling someone a Nazi. Thank you in advance. Also, who is "a young Birmingham punk"? Perhaps only the person you are sticking up for. I am not from Birmingham. I am from Detroit. It has not been a pretty picture that you've been so far off to date, and it won't be a pretty picture in the future. |
Bvos Member Username: Bvos
Post Number: 1231 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.255.241.205
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:24 am: | |
The concept of Bush and his speeches being full of familiar Protestant religious phrases in which he uses very popular hymns, Bible verses and vernacular language but substitutes nationalistic rhetoric for the references to God and Jesus has been discussed quite a bit over the years by folks who come from a church upbringing. Unfortunately the folks who are the loudest but don't neccessarily represent the majority of evangelical Christians (Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell and other fundamentalists) buy into it hook line and sinker seemingly without even realizing that Bush just said American when it should have been God. However there is a sizable number of evangelical Christians who are beginging to publicly denounce Bush's hijacking of Christian phraseology and Christianity for nationalistic purposes. I say all this about Bush's hijacking of familiar religious language to say that this is exactly how Hitler rose to power in Germany. He got the evangelical church of Germany, which represented the vast majority of church going Germans and a sizable majority of all Germans, to buy into his nationalistic fervor. He also hamstrung the Catholic church through bribery and blackmail which they fell for. Once he had diabled the church and the "good Christians" of Germany and swept them up as leaders in his nationalistic fervor, he instituted the SS, started persecuting Jews, secretly holding prisoners without trial, began invading non-aggressor nations, started executing these secret prisoners and on and on we slide into the depths of nationalistic zeal. So it's not that far of a stretch to compare Bush to Hitler. Is Bush to the point of a Hitler yet? I'd say no, but the similarities between the rise of power between the two are eerily similar. |
Pffft Member Username: Pffft
Post Number: 816 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.72.241
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:12 am: | |
Hmm. Here's what Metrodetguy said on Friday at 3:20 a.m.: "He was known to be not only a pretty big drug abuser but also a racist (especially against Black and Asian people) who was rumored to have Nazi connections of some sort." |
Cris Member Username: Cris
Post Number: 392 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 71.227.26.44
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 10:28 am: | |
All dancing hitlers to the left, all singing hitlers to the right..... |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8198 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.99.72
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 11:55 am: | |
You are all Hitlers. So who is going to sue who? ...like watching paint dry or kids sitting in their own filth with their nose running. BTW: This teacher has overstepped his boundaries as far as what his job entails. He should be keeping his politics to himself. |
Nip Member Username: Nip
Post Number: 62 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 148.87.1.172
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 12:29 pm: | |
Despite the fact that I am anti-Bush, I too think this guy overstepped his boundaries. It's not his job to teach or influence his students as to what he thinks or believes about the current (or any) administration. His opinion about who is what doesn’t belong in the classroom. One could say his style of teaching is Hitleresque... |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2402 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 1:38 pm: | |
Hmmm. Reporting what myself as well as what many others have heard about someone IS NOT the same thing as actually calling someone that name. Furthermore, reporting a rumor IS NOT the same thing as reporting the claim as fact. Pffft, are your true colors starting to show? I bet you're one of those extreme liberals/radicals that claims to support minorities, yet when push comes to shove you'll side with any type of person as long as your agenda is pushed. |
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit
Post Number: 2115 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:23 pm: | |
Ahhhh it is so refreshing to see Metro attacking someone new. Quinn, Brian, Broken, Bratt are all "old hat" to Metro. PS _ Metro the only minority that you are is an old angry white guy from the burbs! |
Goat Member Username: Goat
Post Number: 8209 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.53.99.72
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 2:27 pm: | |
What does the colour of ones skin have to do with the argument at hand? ...still watching children sitting in their filth while throwing stones. |
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy
Post Number: 2403 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2006 - 4:53 pm: | |
"Ilovedetroit" you would fit right in with this guy. It is refreshing to see you remain true to form. Birds of a feather flock together. Just think of the level of dishonesty of some forumers and imagine that in the real world. PS_who is the only one on this forum that has claimed multiple races, genders, occupations, income levels, residences, political affiliations, and on and on..."ILOVEDETROIT" |