  Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5616 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
It was suppose to be a public hearing about the future of the Detroit Zoo and the Detroit City Council’s efforts to save it. But today’s hearing in the 13th floor auditorium of the Coleman A. Young Municipal Center has been anything but that. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs .dll/article?AID=/20060301/NEW S11/60301006 | ||
Livernoisyard Member Username: Livernoisyard Post Number: 225 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 69.242.223.42 |
It doesn't matter. The $4 million funding is gone and won't return in its former self. The Legislature will force the issue of transferring ownership to the Zoological Commission if it grants another. None of those "Hire Detroiters" covenants from the CC will apply. Face it. This episode was but a prelude to Detroit's state takeover. Detroit cannot be trusted in financial matters, and it shows. Also, expect the near-junque bond rating to be adversely affected too. Detroit doesn't live in a vacuum. (Message edited by livernoisyard on March 01, 2006) | ||
Gdub Member Username: Gdub Post Number: 998 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.221.78.226 |
Yeah, council doesn't resemble a zoo at all! //sarcasm, LBP style | ||
Genesyxx Member Username: Genesyxx Post Number: 448 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 12.2.196.17 |
Wonder if they'll edit this any when they show it on Channel 10 tonight. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5617 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Historically they haven't. We certainly got the whole "go east side" play-by-play. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 970 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
Worst-case scenario? Early 2006: Council disapproves proposed arrangement again. Spring 2006: Zoo closes; staff terminated; animals sold. Mid-2007: Money no longer available to maintain vacant zoo property, which falls into neglect. Late 2007: Movement begins in suburban communities to establish new regional zoo. Late 2008: Regional tax proposal to fund new zoo passes. Spring 2009: Ground broken on new zoo facility on vast acreage in Groveland Township, Oakland County. Spring 2013: New state-of-the-art Southeast Michigan Zoological Gardens opens in Groveland Township. Attendance is record-breaking. Early 2014: The old zoo grounds at 10 Mile and Woodward are sold to a private developer after legal challenges to the sale are resolved. The revenue gained from the sale helps Detroit recover from receivership, which the city entered in 2008. Fall 2017: The popular, upscale Huntington Oaks Mall opens on the site of the old zoo. | ||
Susanarosa Member Username: Susanarosa Post Number: 750 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 208.39.170.77 |
Brilliant. | ||
Gambling_man Member Username: Gambling_man Post Number: 667 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 199.178.193.5 |
Someone told me that the zoo cannot be sold.....if it can, I say they sell it to developers today. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5619 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
I say move the incinerator there : ) | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 781 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
I am just not optimistic about anything good coming from this. | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 535 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.248.252 |
Someone has to step on the brakes. This whole thing is getting way out of control. Both sides are acting foolish - really sad | ||
Bob Member Username: Bob Post Number: 782 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
The CC needs to realize they are never going to be taken seriously after all this. All they are doing is hurting the future. Do they think they are making a statement? That statement is, we don't care about anything that would help, or make sense for that matter. | ||
Nellonfury Member Username: Nellonfury Post Number: 109 Registered: 03-2005 Posted From: 68.43.156.135 |
This should put this public hearing on Jerry Springer. SAVE THE ZOO!!!!! SAVE THE ZOO!!!!! | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1201 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.51 |
I don't recall reading where the CC themselves endorsed any of the activities or comments that were happening. Having said that it is the job of the Seargent at Arms (which ever member is appointed to that role) to take control of the meeting through procedural processes or through physically removing people. While I don't see the CC neccessarily endorsing the actions of those at the meeting, they should have got things under control so that the residents of this city (myself being one of those people) don't look like fools. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 997 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 136.1.1.33 |
Good points, bvos. This incident was not the fault of the council. If residents are yelling out of turn at the meeting they need to be removed. It's actually probably for the best if the vote is postponed a bit longer, to let this stuff settle down first. | ||
Dsmith Member Username: Dsmith Post Number: 92 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 68.41.202.23 |
Could it be that many Detroiters would be better off with some "civility education"? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 6848 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24 |
Yes, but they all got caught trying to steal it from Walmart in Livonia. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2791 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.236.205.211 |
You never want to be caught on camera having disorderly citizens removed, especially if you want to run for mayor. | ||
Spitty Member Username: Spitty Post Number: 431 Registered: 07-2004 Posted From: 136.1.1.101 |
Amen to that Jams "Now, Now, Now!" | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2792 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.236.205.211 |
Reminds me, where's ILD's eye-witness account? He's always on the spot.  | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3268 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Actually, a huge segement of the American population needs "civility education." BTW, they've removed citizens from Lansing City Council, here, more than once. They usually come back the next week and get the point. It's just that simple, election pending or not. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2794 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.236.205.211 |
Lmichigan, You keep missing the humour, I'll be forced to start posting on hotfudge. My guess is several there would prefer my absence. | ||
Bvos Member Username: Bvos Post Number: 1202 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.238.170.38 |
I'd probably vote for a council member who removed a gadfly from the chambers. Say what you have to say in a polite and respectful manner. This ain't Mack Ave. This is the chambers of the government. | ||
Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5620 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 208.27.111.125 |
Yes, removing a gadfly worked wonders for Hendrix. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 2103 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 63.149.5.130 |
Jams - I am busy trying to find that girlfriend for you | ||
Paulmcall Member Username: Paulmcall Post Number: 599 Registered: 05-2004 Posted From: 68.40.119.216 |
I believe most folks there were protesting water bill hikes. | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2795 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.236.205.211 |
Just caught Ch 4. Proposal passed 6-3. | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4701 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.41.124.8 |
No votes were Rose-Collins, Watson, and Jones. | ||
Metrodetguy Member Username: Metrodetguy Post Number: 2360 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 70.228.3.234 |
Jams, sounds like "Ilovedetroit" is making more unwanted advances towards being that "girlfriend". | ||
Jams Member Username: Jams Post Number: 2796 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 70.236.205.211 |
Not too much of a surprise who cast the "Nays". | ||
Machoken Member Username: Machoken Post Number: 1138 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.85.155.145 |
Someone got a link to the CC's email addresses so I can send some nonracist emails to them? | ||
Angry_dad Member Username: Angry_dad Post Number: 20 Registered: 02-2006 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Can anybody confirm that the state has still extended it's offer of funding? I am under the impression that this motion is just the first step towards regonalizing the zoo. Considering the current state of the area and it's likely future, this makes all the sense in the world. | ||
Pjazz Member Username: Pjazz Post Number: 28 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 69.212.63.169 |
I heard in the news that bills extention is on going. | ||
Gistok Member Username: Gistok Post Number: 1836 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 4.229.72.220 |
I was the one who stated that the zoo property cannot be re-developed. A few years back there was an article in the major papers about Rackham Golf Course. The reporter asked the course manager if anyone had ever approached them about selling the land for redevelopment, since it is in such a valuable area. The manager stated that deed restrictions prevent anything except a golf course and zoo for that area, because of the Rackham family land donation loopholes. |
