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Mw2gs
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When reaching for a juice....is it Everfresh?

When you want a pop (soda for my Southern bredren)....is it Faygo?

How about a bag of chips.....Better Made?

Are there any more homegrown products (besides the big 3) that need our support and do you support them?
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Jams
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Does going to almost only independent bars and restaurants count?

I rarely use any of the products you brought up.

A Coca-Cola boycott was brought up to me yesterday but they would never notice my boycott as I rarely use their products.
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Smogboy
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Better Mades have always been tops on my choice of chips. Faygo kind of went out of vogue with me years ago when I needed the caffeine a Mountain Dew can produce.
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Matt_the_deuce
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I just bought a Ford.

Does Dearborn count?
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Ray1936
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Every year on our annual trip back to Detroit, my wife, a Faygo junkie, loads up the back end of my Explorer with at least 120 bottles of Faygo. Then she rations them to herself through the year here in Vegas. That might be carrying loyalty to a bit of an extreme, but it makes her happy.

(Yeah, I've been known to pour a little for myself once in a while.....)
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Taj920
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The only liquid that used to touch my lips was a cold Bohemian, until they tore the ole brewery on Gratiot down.
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Shark
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I eat popcorn from the Detroit Popcorn Co. They had neat Super Bowl XL tins recently.
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Pjazz
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Strohs used to be my beer of choice.
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Ray1936
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Taj, ain't you gettin' awful thirsty by now? :-)
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Gistok
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I too love Better Made. They now have a salt free variation for those of us watching our sodium intake.

I also love the Better Made White Cheddar Popcorn, yummy!
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Ptero
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yup. Better Made BBQ are the BEST!
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Oldredfordette
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I try mightily to only eat in restaurants in the city proper or in Royal Oak who are owned by small business owners from the area.

Detroit Spice Company rubs and powders are front and center in my spice cabinet. I particularly love the Middle East rub on a pork tenderloin or on boneless chicken thighs. The house smells fantastic and my tastebuds rejoice.

If Pure Detroit would make pretty cut t-shirts for grown women I would wear them.

I proudly carry a Kel Mitre handbag. I get raves and compliments where ever I go. http://www.kelmitre.com/
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Kova
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Uncle Ray's potato chips. some crazy flavors. Their plant is on meyers in lyndon and SChoolcraft. Westside

http://www.unclerays.com/
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Erobtheone
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Everytime I return home to Detroit, I shop at Spectacles in Harmonie Park. Zana has been able to keep that place open for years - even when it was a bit seedy in that area. The styles are forward and the owner is a great person.

Erob
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Mauser765
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My wife and I spent probably a quarter million dollars getting 4 degrees in Detroit educational institutions. Im going back soon for the fifth. Does that count ?
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Adamjab19
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I listen to techno music, eat Better Mades, drink faygo and generally patronize the city's establishments as much as I can.

It's not like, "Is this from Detroit? Mmmm it tastes so good all of a sudden."

It's more like, "Let's go downtown. They have better restaurants and better mades are pretty good and on sale this week how abot them? A 24oz of pop under $1, why not?"
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Gary
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As long as Better Made, Kowlaski and Faygo are in business, they'll have a loyal customer in me.
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Merchantgander
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I shop at Big Tones all the time.
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Mackinaw
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Of course Better Made and Faygo and a Ford...

You also have to make a point to get local pizza rather than chain pizza, and go to local grocery stores rather than chains (whenever possible.) Yorkshire Foods, i.e..
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Patrick
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Faygo and Better Made have this “budget” feel about their products. If they were made in another city, everyone here would be like “what is this crap?” But since it is made in Detroit, well, then you know how it goes.
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Xd_brklyn
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Almost always pick up the group's CD when a Detroit band visits NYC or when visiting Detroit and checking out a local show. A short list would include The Waxwings, B.Benson, Sights, Hentchmen, Dirtbombs, SSM, Pas/Cal...also bring home the Bettermades and Vernor's (Don't know if Vernors still qualifies though.)
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Gannon
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I'm developing an un-natural affinity for the brownies at the Milano bakery in north Eastern Market.
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Detroit_stylin
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FayGo Better Made adn Red Devil Cornchips all day! :-)


BTW what other Detroit made products are there aside from the obvious?
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Mikeydbn
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Jiffy Mix!

(does Chelsea count?)
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Gambling_man
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"Dearborn" brand ham, sausage and hot dogs.
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Smogboy
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"Faygo and Better Made have this “budget” feel about their products. If they were made in another city, everyone here would be like “what is this crap?” But since it is made in Detroit, well, then you know how it goes."

I'm not sure if it's a budget feel for me with Better Mades. I've actually tried many other brands of potato chips from the national Frito Lay's to Jay's to Shearer's and I still like coming back to ol' Better Mades. There's something distinctive about their taste that I just can't put a finger on.

(oh great, now I sound like a potato chip snob, but I do like 'em!)
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Jt1
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Germack is in Eastern Market.
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Smogboy
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Best pistachios in town at Germack! Thank goodness no one makes those horribly dyed red ones anymore! I remember an old room mate & I would watch Red Wings games together and finishing off a bag of those (also thinking it'd give the Wings good luck) and having red dye all over our hands.

Great call on Germack.
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Jjaba
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Gerber's Baby Food. Does Fremont Count?
Michigan celery. Does Kalamazoo count?
Oldsmobile. Does Lansing count?

Real Sodas out of Los Angeles distributes Faygo and Vernors in glass. Yes, Vernors counts!

Topor's Kosher dill pickles, Detroit.

Zeman's Kosher Bakery.

Buick. Does Buick City count?

Wearing Hushpuppie shoes. Does Wolverine Shoes count?

Lafayette Coney Island. Do Yeminites count?
Baklava. Does Greektown count?
jjaba, LOL.
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Super_d
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Bettermade Barbeque Skins:-)

Please pass the skins!

And I drive a Chrysler Jeep! That's sort of Detroit???

super d(motordetroit)

(Message edited by super_d on February 17, 2006)
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Jt1
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Oldsmobile. Does Lansing count? - Olds is no more

Buick. Does Buick City count? - Bucik City is no more
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Kova
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dearborn sausage is in dearborn.
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Jjaba
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Super D, Jeep is made in Detroit and yes, Toledo counts.

jjaba, Buy American, buy Detroit.
Detroit Makes, the World Takes.
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Sharmaal
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La-z-boy! Does that count! Man I love my La-Z-Boy, don't buy the biters!
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Jaredrich
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faygo was bought out and is out of florida now, I wouldn't be surprised to see the factory move eventually. Go to pure detroit in the fisher building where they have a section devoted to products made in detroit.
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Pam
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quote:

There's something distinctive about their taste that I just can't put a finger on.




I think it is that they actually taste like they are made out of potatoes! (Unlike Pringles and that crap)
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Sharmaal
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Jaredrich - Welcome to the Forum. I didn't know that about Faygo. Do you have any other insight into how / what happened?
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Oldredfordette
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I drive a Focus made in Wayne Michigan, and I'm counting it!


I love my little red Focus. Love. It. Blankenspot radio or whatever it's called sucks though.
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Mackinaw
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Yeah, all you folks that drive Jeeps and Dodge Vipers should have big Detroit pride. Made at Jefferson north, 3 miles from my house.

What Cadillacs are assembled at GM's Detroit/Hamtown assembly plant?

This is the shame about Ford...nothing really made in Detroit anymore. Or Wixom for that matter.
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Ndavies
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Doesn't the F150 count. Made proudly at at the rouge plant.
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Thanks 'Jjaba'... That's right,Toledo has a Detroit Ave.:-)

super d(motordetroit)
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Mackinaw
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Well let's get something straight, is the current Ford Rouge assembly plant in Detroit proper? I thought it wasn't.
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Hornwrecker
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I think the last Ford actually made inside the city limits of Detroit was in 1908-09 at the 411 Piquette factory. Highland Park opened in 1909, then Henry moved to Dearborn around 1920. I don't think he liked operating in a city he couldn't own.

The last assembly line to close in Detroit was probably the Lynch Road or Cadillac's Clark St (1987), leaving Poletown and the Jefferson as the only ones. The Viper was first assembled at the former Champion plant behind the 8 Mile water treatment plant.
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River_rat
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Jjaba - please, the slogan, "X Makes, the World Takes", has been the motto of Trenton, New Jersy for decades.



the river rat
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Crazy_pete
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I think the Detroit plant makes the Cadillac Deville (now DTS) and Buick Lesabre (now Lucerne).
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A friend occasionally send us Red Pelican mustard and a Sanders product or two (although they're technically in Novi now). We order kielbasa from the Kowalski web site about once a year because it hard to find the good stuff here in NM.
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Tomoh
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I try to spend as high a percentage of my spending money in Detroit city limits, even if it means buying gift cards at the downtown CVS to use in other far away locations. :-) I also found that the People's Food Co-op in Ann Arbor sells Avalon Bakery goods, when I need a good chocolate chip cookie.
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Gumby
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Better Mades all the time. Nothing quite like the taste of my Red Pop. And being from Flint you know I support my Koegels meats.
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Kova
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ya most of the rouge is in dearborn
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Sharmal, the La-Z-Boy world HQ is in Monroe, on Telegraph road. The founders and majority shareholders still live in Monroe, so it is unlikely that they will move the HQ anytime soon, but they haven't made the chairs there in a long, long time. Same goes for Monroe Shock Absorbers, (now owned by Tenneco Automotive)....
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I buy Better Made chips, Red Pelican mustard, Faygo or Vernors pop (although I seldom drink pop anymore), Everfresh juice (only the 100 percent variety; the rest is sugar-water), and Kowalski (or Kopytko) sausage.
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Jjaba
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River rat is correct. We see that Trenton sign from the mainline trains to Philly. jjaba thought he could pull a fast one.

Mallory Electric, Duracell, Monroe, Michigan.

The last time jjaba checked, they were cranking out DeSotos on Wyoming and Mc Graw, Detroit.

Cadillac-Clark Park coach drop is now in the Detroit Historical Museum. Does that count?

Lionel Trains, fine Detroit brand.

Parke-Davis, does Ann Arbor count?

Baklava, does Astoria Bakery count?

jjaba, born in Women's Hospital. Does that count?
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Taj920
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For lunch today, I bypassed the National Coney Island at 8 & Harper to go to the one at 7 & Mack instead.
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Jjaba
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Anybody drinking Stroh's these days?
jjaba.
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Harsensis
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When my sister and her kids come in from Denver, Orlando and Seattle I always send them home with Vernors. They can buy it at home but it is more expensive and it makes a nice Detroit gift. Also don't forget about the armed forces. Many of those big armored vehicles they drive are made in Chesterfield or New Baltimore. I use to make the huge radiators for them when I worked for Detroit Radiator.
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Jjaba
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Detroit, still Arsenal of Democracy.

Harsensis, welcome to Forum. Good to have new faces.

Faygo is $1.79 for 12 pack in Chicago Big Boxes like Meijers. They love the stuff in Big Windy.
jjaba on the Westside.
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Ray1936
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--jjaba, born in Women's Hospital

Jjaba, I think you and I were twins, only somehow they threw me off'n the Dexter bus...
hosp
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Bvos
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Jjaba,

Hate to burst your bubble, but Richard Kuhn sold Lionel off to some big conglomerate located in who knows where a few years ago. The big conglomeration promptly closed the Lionel plant on 23 Mile in Chesterfield Twp. and moved production back to Mexico, and of course China as well.

Mr. Kuhn also has sold off his entire collection of model trains (one of the largest in the world) and his classic cars (Detroit made of course!). He's getting up in age and his kids apparently don't appreciate what he had. So he sold everything off to folks who saw the value in what he had.
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Futurecity
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^^^Kids these days...^^^
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Jjaba
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Bvos, thanks. Sad news indeed but jjaba has to be brought up to date.

Ray 1936 is 5 yrs. older than jjaba. jjaba is 1941 and his brother is June 20, 1943 during the Race Riot then. Three births at Women's Hospital.

According to jjaba's mother, she asked for the room where Ray1936 was born, and gave birth to two children in that same room. jjaba and brother lived 18 years in the same 2-flat on Northlawn and Schoolcraft in NW Detroit. Then went to college from that house.

All three were Detroit Times newsboys, Washburn/Grand River station run by Jim Beyers. jjaba and brother had their route for 8 years combined. Riding a bike in Feb. in the snow was damn cold, but the papers got delivered.

jjaba, Westside Memories.
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My grandfather and my dad were on Belle Isle that fateful day in 1943. Arshag noticed something just wasn't right and told his young Armenian son and wife to get in the car - that they needed to go. Just in time.

My dad and mom are Detroit products and I support them as much as I can...
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Yes, 1943 was a tough summer in Detroit.
Manoogian, Garabedian, Geragos, good Armenian names in Detroit.

jjaba.
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Thanks Jjaba,it's good to be able to add to this since I'm a history nut of Detroit. Back to the post, my Grandfather was really big into supporting your roots so he always bought Detroit and Superior/Duluth products. He was born in Superior Wis. but insulted a cook on the freighter he was working on and the cook chased him off the ship and would not let him back on. He ended up staying in Detroit.
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i drink strohs but i cant understand why i feel so odd the next morning with it.
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I can't find Red Pelican mustard anymore.The regular plain delicious dark yellow mustard. What's up?
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LOL, if not for an arguement with a stubborn cook, Harsenis, you and your clan would never have known a mild winter.
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Dearborn isnt Detroit? Hence the regional problem.

Red Pelican went down for the count... now temporarily available at Pure Detroit, but not for long.
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quote:

Hate to burst your bubble, but Richard Kuhn sold Lionel off to some big conglomerate located in who knows where a few years ago. The big conglomeration promptly closed the Lionel plant on 23 Mile in Chesterfield Twp. and moved production back to Mexico, and of course China as well.


Bvos, Lionel is not a native of Michigan. Lionel was headquartered in New York from the turn of the century until the 1970. It had no connection to Michigan until it was bought by General Mills and merged into one of its model making divisions that had facilities in Mt. Clemens. Then production went to Mexico. Then it came back. But before you kvetch about overseas manufacture in that industry, consider that those products compete on labor-intensive detailing and tooling in a very low volume setting. That's why all of Lionel's competitors have been in LCCs for 20-50 years.
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Define LCCs. "Lionel's Coolie Countries?"

Harsenis, great migration story. Stuck in Detroit because the ship's cook chased your ass off.
Truth is, your grandfather was sick and tired of Geno's Pizza Rolls on the ship. He walked over to The Lafayette Coney Island, ordered two on one, everything, and a Vernor's, walked to Briggs Stadium for a ballgame and took a job in a Ford plant. Did he even grab his suitcase?

jjaba, We all have a story.
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This thread makes me melancholy. I remember when we made damn near everthing in Detroit. Cars, steel, tractors and refrigerators, adding machines (we should have converted to computers), hot dogs and hams (river rat worked at Hygrade's on Michigan making them while going to WSU),lots of beer and bread, and all things imaginable.

boo-hoo.


the river rat
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Not exactly everything. Detroit has no claim to the Hershey bar, Kleenex, nor the telephone.

But corn flakes, does Battle Creek count?

jjaba, big fan of what makes.
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I hope someone saved a good copy of the Red Pelican logo. I'd like that.

Did anyone mention delicious Avalon bread?
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I remember the old Nash-Kelvinator plant on Plymouth Road, down around Schaefer or Greenfield. I used to think they made refrigerators for cars back a zillion years or so....
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Kova,

Funny you mention Uncle Ray's. I moved to Texas in January 2000. Hadn't seen Uncle Ray's since I left. Then, about a month ago, I'm driving through rural Texas and stop in La Grange (the one mentioned in the ZZ Top song of the same name). Wouldn't you know it -- a full stock of Uncle Ray's snacks!.....Small world.....
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Richard Kuhn sold Lionel to an LLC in '95. Neil Young is involved. The last Lionel train made in Michigan was made in 2001. I'm not even sure they even have a Mexico facility anymore. It may be all China.
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Ray1936, Nash-Kelvinator is Plymouth Road and Mark Twain.
The administration Building of William E. Kapp, from the firm of Smith Hinchman and Grylls, is dated 1927.

Howe many copies of the daily and Sunday Detroit Times did Ray1936 deliver there?

jjaba, Old Timey Westside newsboy.
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Elmer Leonard, Mitch Albom, Helen Thomas.
Detroit writers.

Pianist Gene Harris, does Benton Harbor count?

jjaba.
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My wife makes more $$ than me ... I'm a product of Detroit ... she is doing her part!
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The Nash-Kelvinator plant was just a bit too far for me to be delivering the Detroit Times there. But that stretch of Plymouth Road was used by me on my bike quite a bit to go to the Brennan Pools in Rouge Park. I remember that high board there...finally got the nerve to jump from it. This Lutheran was saying Hail Marys on the way down.........

Ray1936, also a patron of Crystal Pools at Eight Mile and Greenfield.
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jjaba was a locker room attendant, Brennen Pools, Rouge Park, 1960-63. He probably checked Ray1936' feet for diseases, cracks, or injuries.

Wasn't it Rainbow Pools, that segregated pile at W. 8 Mile and Greenfield, long before Northland?
jjaba and some cronies picketed it for segregation, and they closed down, sold out, and left town.
The times, they were a'changin'.

jjaba, you don't have to be a weatherman to know the wind's a changin.'
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I thought that Lionel closed their Mexican operations (due to poor quality) and moved them back to Chesterfield Township in Macomb County, where they are today?

Lionel LLC is still listed in the 2006 East Area Yellow Pages. And they must still be here because SBC charges businesses yearly for Yellow Pages listings.

(Message edited by Gistok on February 19, 2006)
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I love Better Made chips. However, the last batch I had tasted a lot like "Lay's." The chips were thinner and greasier, like "Lay's." What I liked about the Better Made chip was that it was a harder chip. I hope it was only a fluke.
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Ahhh Koegels- now that is a good mememory- my mom was from Flint- and after she married my dad and moved over to central/west side of the State- Koegels was something she dearly missed. So in the summer when she was on vacation (teacher) we spent two weeks over in Flint visiting her family and we headed back to Portland with a cooler full of Koegel wieners and sausages. No other brands were considered for grilling. Whenever sick someone in our family was sick, my great-aunt always sent over(across the road) a bottle of Vernors. I thought that was a Detroit brand- didn´t see it mentioned much in the thread (has it been bought out?) I still pick up a bottle or two plus a six-pack of "brown bottle Root beer" (thought it was also made in Detroit??)the first day on return to Michigan. One can not find Root beer over here in Europe, no one likes it?? What about "Strohs" Ice cream?? thought that was a Detroit pruduct?
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quote:

I thought that Lionel closed their Mexican operations (due to poor quality) and moved them back to Chesterfield Township in Macomb County, where they are today?


Sorry, I forgot to distinguish that the return was to Chesterfield Township, not Mount Clemens.

quote:

Define LCCs. "Lionel's Coolie Countries?"


Lower Cost Countries.
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Benny Parsons, a Detroit product. Is a NASCAR commentator for NBC and TNT.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm066 3778/
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For all you Better-Made eaters, try Gourmet Fresh Salsa from Ferndale. My favorite. Here's an article....
Gourmet Fresh
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It looks like Stroh's Ice Cream still counts as well - not one for soda or chips, but a bit of an ice cream fiend.

http://www.detroitrenaissance. com/mappages/s_4.html

"Giltech, Inc. d/b/a Stroh's Ice Cream Company is engaged in manufacturing and distributing premium ice cream products and other frozen desserts throughout Metro Detroit, northern Michigan and northern Ohio. The DIF investment of $600,000 enabled Stroh's to complete the acquisition of Toledo-based Nafziger Ice Cream and move its production to Detroit. The DIF investment also provided funds for the purchase of freezer cases, which were placed in grocery stores, to increase its sales. DIF has been repaid on its investment. Approximately 65 jobs were maintained and 15 jobs were added in the city."
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Keoplingers. Love that flat black bread.

Ofcourse, Vernor's and Stroh's are Detroit.

While you were arguing about Lionel, you missed the 4:45 pm Twilight Limited on the NY Central outta the Michigan Central Station. Where'd he go? He went for FAYGO!

jjaba.
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Lionel was never really made in Mt. Clemens. The famous toy trains were made at the same plant on 23 Mile Rd. the whole time it was a Michigan company. Back in the day (up to the late 1980s) Chesterfield Twp. had a Mt. Clemens zip code. Then development (sprawl) took off and they got their own zip code, even though it's out of the New Baltimore Post Office.

As I sat here drinking my Faygo Vanilla Creme Soda from a glass bottle I bought from Pure Detroit today, I did a little research on the claim above that Faygo is no longer a Detroit co. Sadly it turns out it is true. The glass bottle I hold in my hand says: Faygo Beverages Inc.
A National Beverage Co.
Detroit, MI 48207

Here's the National Beverage Co. website showing Faygo amidst a host of other regional brands:

http://www.nationalbeverage.co m/50Products.htm

The good news in this is that National Beverage has owned Faygo since 1987 (it's apparently Detroit's dirty little secret!) with no change in production location. It doesn't seem that there is any immediate danger to Faygo leaving Detroit. It also seems from the website that Faygo understands its strength as a brand is its Detroit mystique and history. Be sure to check out the website to watch the old adds:

www.faygo.com
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Another Detroit product that comes to mind is Towne Club Soda. Remember bringing your empty, stinky, sticky bottles in the wood case up to the Towne Club store and exchanging them for a new wood case? I always had a hard time picking out just a few of the pop flavors that I wanted. This inevitably took too long which pissed off my dad. But I remember the stuff being really cheap so that's why we'd always go there.

I've seen it for sale dirt cheap at the dollar store up the street from me (in Detroit!). I want to say it's 2 for $1 or even 2 for $0.50 but it's in the little 20 oz. bottles with some fancy looking label. No retro label which is probably why it's only being sold at the dollar store.
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Bvos ahh town club ... ya know there usedta be a "town club" style store on GR a couple of blocks west of Evergreen (north side of the street light colored brick building on the corner). AIR it wasn't town club but that other brand the one with the diamonds. The town club store was on greenfield near Plymouth and another on NcNicholls waay out in redford. ... ahhh Town club black cherry in a scuffed up glass bottle ...
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Those were the days! I seem to remember most glass bottles, including Coke and Pepsi, being scuffed up. Every once and a while you'd get a new one, but most of the time it was pretty scuffed up.
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Rustic, I worked in the head shop that moved into the Town Club store! It was called Sliding Thru Slips (it was Town Club btw). It was next to the funeral home next to Christ The King Church across the street to that Irish Bar. We sold LP's, 8-track tapes and smoking supplies to the neighborhood kids. Bastard Slip ripped me off.

It smelled like stinky old pop and the dreadful drugs Slip took.
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Those old scuffy Pepsi bottles can be brimmed out with Planter Peanuts. A whole bag fits in. Now, you've got a snack. Try it. The Pepsi mixed with peanuts and salt is a quick fun-filled treat.

jjaba, Old newsboy on his bike with a Pepsi on Grand River Avenue. 60 papers in clothsack on handlebars, dodging garbage trcks.
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Harsenis, great migration story. Stuck in Detro because the ship's cook chased your ass off. it
Truth is, your grandfather was sick and tired of Geno's Pizza Rolls on the ship. He walked over to The Lafayette Coney Island, ordered two on one, everything, and a Vernor's, walked to Briggs Stadium for a ballgame and took a job in a Ford plant. Did he even grab his suitcase?


Jjaba
That is so funny, because Genos Pizza Rolls was the example my Grandfather used. He said he always bought that brand to support Duluth. He ended up working for Acme Lead and Color Works on St Aubin instead of Ford though. JJ

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