  Itsjeff Member Username: Itsjeff Post Number: 5396 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 68.42.168.211 |
DETROIT, Jan. 21 - Mayor Kwame M. Kilpatrick is so determined to show Super Bowl visitors a new face for his beleaguered city that he is willing to sacrifice its Motown roots. This week, wrecking crews began taking down the long-abandoned office building that was home to Motown Records from 1968 to 1972. http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01 /22/national/22detroit.html?hp &ex=1137992400&en=449a0f0ad77c ca83&ei=5094&partner=homepage | ||
Knocturnal Member Username: Knocturnal Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2004 Posted From: 24.176.50.206 |
Better than Chicago? Kwame keeps frontin' like this and Kanye is going to cancel his appearance...please... | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 719 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
As much as I admired the old buildings in Detroit and i am sad to see them torn down, I am happy that an initiative has been taken to look ahead for Detroits future. It is very hard to let these buildings come down, yes, but we have to save what can be saved and say goodbye to what can't. What we are seeing here in Detroit is Urban renewal at its best evne while times are har. We all have to be more active in saving these building and tell the city government what WE want. As far as the article is concerned, Motown was in the building 4 years. i think the real history of Motown lies in Hitsville on the W Grand, not to mention the history making Detroit concert tours which include St. Stephens AME church, the gymasium concerts at Northwestern HS and the 100's of jam session in basements all around Detroit. Thats Motown to me. I guess I am a leaning toward this side of Motown because I have grown to know that my family was a part of it. My uncle used to write a lot of music in his days and although he wanted no recognition from it he still has his stories to tell to this day. | ||
Huggybear Member Username: Huggybear Post Number: 135 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 68.79.97.128 |
Say what you want about the merits of demolishing vs. not on a historical basis, it's all perception. And this article is extremely damaging in how it perceives and expresses Superbowl preparations. The city should have waited three weeks before allowing those buildings to be knocked down. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 722 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
I do wonder how many dust related emergencies we will be having with the residents of Woodward Place at Brush Park. After work last night I drove by and saw an incredible amount of dust on I-75 at about 12 midnight | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 725 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
This is in conjunction with what i stated in an above post.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pb cs.dll/article?AID=/20060122/O PINION03/601220331/1271 | ||
Supersport Member Username: Supersport Post Number: 9783 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.246.37.236 |
Wow, another article more focused on the bad instead of the good, how surprising. Didn't see any mention of Campus Martius in there, nor the riverfront development. How about the state of the art YMCA? How about the gorgeos Belle Isle which is larger than New York's Central Park, that doesn't warrant a mention? Typical article by an out of town paper looking to beat up on Detroit. Oh yeah, what is this long, long history of sprucing the city up for a big event? Aside from the Republican National convention, what else was there? Everything done for the All Star game and SuperBowl, such as roads, sidewalks, lighting, and redeveloped buildings will be here long after the game is over. | ||
Ilovedetroit Member Username: Ilovedetroit Post Number: 2002 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 69.246.4.29 |
I didn't realize BC Building was in trouble again? This is so frustrating it is a beautiful structure. I am not that upset over the Motown Building...I thought it was an eyesore and what development could go there? I am not sure anyone would want a condo right there next to the highway. However, with that said I would prefer to see something done there than a parking lot. | ||
Shark Member Username: Shark Post Number: 176 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 68.77.110.79 |
I love that. | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 731 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
Classic, isn't it??? ild...the BC is the grandest building in Downtown agreed? Why don't we buy it???  | ||
Pffft Member Username: Pffft Post Number: 727 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 69.221.92.217 |
Mickie Maynard is notoriously negative about Detroit. Keep that in mind when you see her byline. | ||
Blessyouboys Member Username: Blessyouboys Post Number: 237 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 69.209.185.165 |
this is on the front page of nytimes.com, sheeesh | ||
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main Post Number: 733 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.222.11.226 |
I can't believe they have to "tutor" people to say nice things about Detroit. I think we should start a new thread just saying nice things about Detroit. Anyone interested?? | ||
Rustic Member Username: Rustic Post Number: 1962 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 130.132.177.245 |
Other than muddling the Lions owner with the Ford CEO (yikes! kinda a scary thought juxtaposing those two orgs ...) were there any other errors in the article? | ||
Jt1 Member Username: Jt1 Post Number: 6500 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.2.148.99 |
Seems logical since SE Michigan bashes Detroit more than anyone else in the world. | ||
Dougw Member Username: Dougw Post Number: 947 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 68.249.8.75 |
A mediocre article at best... yes, some of the Woodward storefronts are temporarily cleaned up, but there's no mention of some of the real progress that has been made. (Somewhat surprising, as other NYTimes articles about Detroit in the last couple years have been pretty good.) | ||
The_aram Member Username: The_aram Post Number: 4646 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 141.213.175.233 |
Look directly across Woodward from the Donovan site. Seems like the Crosswinds folks don't really care all that much about living near the highway... | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3066 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Kwame wanted to bluff with tearing down Donovan/Sanders hoping the media would be kind, and got called on his bluff. This is what happens when you take people for fools. Even the outside media is saying that it would have been better to keep up some of these structures for reuse than demolishing them in hopes of fooling people into thinking that ALL demolition means progress. This is what happens when you try and make people believe that "progress" is tearing down a few dilapidated buildings for visitors. Kwame, you've been punk'd. You can't see the forest for the trees. | ||
Fury13 Member Username: Fury13 Post Number: 825 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.204 |
..."It's better than Chicago or Philadelphia..." What the hell was he thinking when he said that? Please. He could have said, "We think that, in its own way, Detroit has as much to offer as Chicago or Philadelphia..." But to make the unequivocal statement that he made... it's ridiculous. Detroit needs to get over its envy and perceived competition with other cities, because if you look at it objectively and unemotionally (in other words, as if Detroit ISN'T your home town), the D doesn't stack up. Sorry. | ||
Northend Member Username: Northend Post Number: 643 Registered: 10-2005 Posted From: 69.212.62.92 |
Detroit and its residents have had 30 years to get off their overweight booties and let their entrepreneurship save this city. If half the energy spent on admiring these old buildings was spent on concrete and constructive (no pun intended) actions, we would not be bothered by the "excessive dust" resulting from the demolition of said buildings. Either the average Detroiter (definitely not on this forum) doesn't give a flying you know what about the city or all the enthusiastic kinda people of the "Vinton Style Project" thread have been AWOL. Time to get your asthma inhalers b/c at this rate there may be way more dust coming our way | ||
Gogo Member Username: Gogo Post Number: 1164 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 198.208.251.24 |
Can Detroit still be called "Motown" when practically nothing of Motowns legacy remains outside of a small house on Grand Blvd? Los Angeles is more deserving of the title than Detroit. | ||
Track75 Member Username: Track75 Post Number: 2194 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 12.75.22.100 |
They should have used minutes, not miles. | ||
Track75 Member Username: Track75 Post Number: 2195 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 12.75.22.100 |
That said, the article wasn't that bad. It's not like visitors wouldn't have noticed any abandoned buildings but for the article in the NYT. There's been other NYT pieces that focused on the improvements. | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3068 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
Gogo, Detroit is still the historical Motown, and for that, the city should be proud. But, Motown, today, is NOTHING to brag about. Aren't they part of Universal now, putting out less and mediocre music with few exceptions? Barry Gordy in the antithesis of a greedy businessman if you never saw one. | ||
Mauser765 Member Username: Mauser765 Post Number: 686 Registered: 01-2004 Posted From: 4.229.69.250 |
"Barry Gordy in the antithesis of a greedy businessman if you never saw one." Translation ? | ||
Matt_the_deuce Member Username: Matt_the_deuce Post Number: 453 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.248.252 |
Don't credit the players on the records, don't let them play with anyone else, pay them minimal wages, then leave Detroit and don't give anything back. Barry Gordy was very shrewd, and that's the nicest way anyone could ever put it. Hmm... | ||
Lmichigan Member Username: Lmichigan Post Number: 3072 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 67.172.95.197 |
I meant to say "if you EVER saw one." It's an overused cliche. I hope that's what you were asking about, Mauser. He turned his back on Detroit, and never looked back, and I feel couldn't have cared less about Motown Center/Donovan-Sanders, when he could have easily spoken up on its behalf even if he didn't have majority (or any) ownership. He could have commanded a lot of respect with a simple phone interview with the Free Press or News asking for this structure to be saved. Nothing. | ||
Urban_shocker Member Username: Urban_shocker Post Number: 250 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.228.3.58 |
No, I think Mauser wants know if you know what 'antithesis' means. | ||
Urban_shocker Member Username: Urban_shocker Post Number: 251 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 70.228.3.58 |
Even with the mentioned gaffes (the Ford one the worst), I didn't find the article to be poor or unfair. Micheline Maynard is the Times' Det correspondent, so I bet she's aware of things like C-Mart and the riverfront. Just like it wasn't her job to mention every vacant building, I don't think she was obligated to create a laundry list of new developments either. | ||
Bibs Member Username: Bibs Post Number: 439 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 205.188.116.137 |
Since there seems to be an award for everything these days. How about handing out an award to the most negative or ignorant article about Detroit? We could call it, "The Diss'n D Award" or "The Detroit Award." How the top ten worst articles? | ||
Damon Member Username: Damon Post Number: 645 Registered: 11-2003 Posted From: 141.215.16.132 |
Kwame said Detroit was better than Chicago and Philly to the New York Times??! WTF WAS HE THINKING!? I knew Carolyn dropped him on his head when he was a kid, but this is ridiculous! |
