Wpitonya Member Username: Wpitonya
Post Number: 17 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 153.9.84.120
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:26 pm: | |
I am doing a project on HOUSES by Albert Kahn, not commercial buildings....can anyone help me with websites or books to look at for this?? |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1118 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 140.244.107.151
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:32 pm: | |
Check W. Hawkins Ferry's The Buildings of Detroit as well as the AIA Detroit Architecture guides. Also, the DPL's Burton Collection will likely have clipping files and other info. |
Austinb1212 Member Username: Austinb1212
Post Number: 29 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 66.178.218.40
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:40 pm: | |
The house on the bottom of this page is an Albert Kahn house: http://citylivingdetroit.com/0 5/neighborh_bostone.php |
Everydayislikesunday Member Username: Everydayislikesunday
Post Number: 148 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.41.153.99
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:49 pm: | |
The Legacy of Albert Kahn was originally published by the DIA in 1970, but I'm pretty sure there's a more recent printing. In this book you will be able to find a few chapters focusing on his residential works, with an impressive amount of photos. |
Spartacus Member Username: Spartacus
Post Number: 71 Registered: 07-2005 Posted From: 209.114.251.65
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 3:49 pm: | |
Kahn designed Cranbrook House. There are a lot of books about the architecture at Cranbrook out there. I believe there is a library at the Cranbrook Art Musuem, I bet you can find some good stuff there. |
56packman Member Username: 56packman
Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 129.9.163.234
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:17 pm: | |
Wpitonya--I have 8X10 glossies of the Alvan Macauley (Packard Motor Company)home in Grosse Pointe (now demolished), it was an Albert Kahn house. I could make scans for your project if you wanted. Let me know via this thread-page. "ask the man who scans one" |
Krawlspace Member Username: Krawlspace
Post Number: 236 Registered: 04-2004 Posted From: 69.47.77.195
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:30 pm: | |
quote:"ask the man who scans one"
LMAO |
Funkycarrie Member Username: Funkycarrie
Post Number: 135 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 69.208.32.222
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 4:33 pm: | |
he did the Palms on Jefferson, which is residential... |
Walkerpub Member Username: Walkerpub
Post Number: 64 Registered: 12-2003 Posted From: 216.8.170.43
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 5:37 pm: | |
As you may or may not know, Walkerville is well represented with Kahn homes. http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/architects.htm Also visit Virtual Walkerville See # 12, 13, 15, 16, 17 http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/virtual_tour.htm The most magnificent example of Kahn architecture south of the border remains Willistead Manor http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/willistead.htm |
Broken_main Member Username: Broken_main
Post Number: 668 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.136.139.223
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:00 pm: | |
Check these out http://www.cranbrook.edu/house gardens/H_G-home.html and this http://www.answers.com/topic/a lbert-kahn |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 205 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:24 pm: | |
Out of curiosity, I just ran Albert Kahn on the 1920 U.S. Census for Detroit, and found him to be living at 62 Rowena Steet with his wife, Ernestine, three daughters and one son -- and three servants. I can't place Rowena Street in my mind....anyone know of it? Would be interesting to see if the home he lived in still exists. |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 3190 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.222.10.3
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:49 pm: | |
Wpitonya, I have a great deal of information about various AK homes…and residential architecture in general. Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to locate every home he did. Sure, his firm did thousands of residential projects, but I question the amount of touches AK personally put on these homes. At times, his firm used other designers, but never gave them credit. Smith, Hinchman & Grylls used Bloodgood Tuttle for several of their fine residential projects. I am sure Kahn put more detail and effort into the more exclusive projects. Anyone have the figure for the exact amount of homes AK did in Boston-Edison, Palmer Woods, and Indian Village? |
Jimaz Member Username: Jimaz
Post Number: 67 Registered: 12-2005 Posted From: 68.2.191.57
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 6:49 pm: | |
Not sure if it counts as residential but pictures of the Packard Proving Grounds lodge in Shelby Twp can by found in a link waaaaay at the bottom of this page: http://shelbyhistory.tripod.co m/id14.html |
Neilr Member Username: Neilr
Post Number: 175 Registered: 06-2005 Posted From: 69.242.215.65
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:53 pm: | |
Ray1936, Rowena ran east from Woodward to about Russell where it became Mack. At some point, Rowena was encorporated into Mack. The Albert Kahn House still exists on the SE corner of Mack & John R. It has been the home of the Urban League for many years. So it has two valuable connections to Detroit's history. (Message edited by neilr on January 19, 2006) |
Upinottawa Member Username: Upinottawa
Post Number: 140 Registered: 09-2005 Posted From: 198.103.184.76
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:56 pm: | |
For less than $900,000 CDN you can buy one: http://www.mls.ca/PropertyDeta ils.aspx?vd=&SearchURL=%3fPage %3d2%26Mode%3d0%26vs%3d1%26rlt %3d%26cp%3d%26pt%3d0%26mp%3d20 0000-0-0%26mrt%3d-1-0-0%26Beds %3d2-0%26Baths%3d0-0%26f%3d%26 ft%3dall%26o%3dA%26of%3d1%26ps %3d10%26ptgid%3d1%26aid%3d1892 %26MapURL%3d%253fAreaID%253d65 36%2526amp%253bSelID%253d6536& Mode=0&PropertyID=3970062 (Message edited by upinottawa on January 19, 2006) |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 206 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 7:59 pm: | |
Ah! Good info, neilr....I know where that building is now; almost picture it in my mind. Thanks much. |
Mackinaw Member Username: Mackinaw
Post Number: 1150 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 141.213.173.94
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 8:06 pm: | |
See some in person, here are some that I know about 1009 Yorkshire GPP 266 Lakeland GPC* 456 University GPC 626 Lincoln GPC 28 McKinley Pl. GPF 257 Ridge (at Touraine) GPF* 273 Ridge (at Vendome) GPF* 189 Cloverly (at Ridge) GPF 41 Provencal (at Kercheval) GPF (originally at Jefferson and Seminole)* 59 Lakeshore GPF 880 Lakeshore GPS 1100 Lakeshore GPS* 1042 Seminole 1411 Iroquois and many more in Indian Village, and we have sources for IV on this forum. The * = must see. |
Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5240 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.156.93.225
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:05 pm: | |
UpinOttawa, I've been in that house, and it's just awesome. It also has some neat extras, including the tiffany lamp that came from the 1915 "remodel" as well as an Albert Kahn designed Dining Room set. The lines on the sideboard and Dining room table match the lines on the wood panelling trim. If I had the cash, I'd buy it in a second. |
Gary Member Username: Gary
Post Number: 107 Registered: 02-2004 Posted From: 69.221.79.157
| Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 11:34 pm: | |
Neilr, thanks for that information. I'm familiar with the Mack/John R location, but I read somewhere that Albert Kahn lived on Atkinson, west of Woodward. I took the time to drive past the house a few years ago, but I do not remember the exact address. I can't recall the source of this information, but it I will check my sources to see I can confirm it. Maybe this Atkinson address was prior to or subsequent to his stay on Rowena? Perhaps some census records or old phone directory listings could shed some light on this. |
Ray1936 Member Username: Ray1936
Post Number: 207 Registered: 01-2005 Posted From: 207.200.116.139
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:04 am: | |
Kahn resided on Rowena in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. Census reports. I don't have access to the 1930, but he may well have moved on by that year. In 1900 he was living with his in-laws on Eliot street. (He died around 1942 as I recall). |
Aiw
Member Username: Aiw
Post Number: 5241 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.156.93.225
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:11 am: | |
Ray he lived in the house on Rowena/Mack from 1906 until his death in 1942. |
Hornwrecker Member Username: Hornwrecker
Post Number: 736 Registered: 04-2005 Posted From: 66.19.19.40
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 12:18 am: | |
Entry from 1905 "The Detroiters" KAHN, Albert, architect; born, Rhaunen, Westphalia, Germany, Mar. 21, 1869; son of Joseph and Rosalie (Cohn) Kahn; came to America, 1881; educated in public and high schools in Germany; held American architect scholarship for study abroad, 1890-91; married at Detroit, 1897, Ernestine Krolik. Has been engaged in practice of profession in Detroit since 1904. Buildings: Detroit Aquarium and Horticultural Bldg., Burroughs Adding Machine plant, Temple Beth El, Packard Motor Car plant, Palms Apartment Bldg., etc. Director People’s Ice Co., Brown & Brown Coal Co., Trussed Concrete Steel Co. member American Institute of Architects, Fine Arts Society, Detroit Art Commission. Club: Phoenix. Recreations: Automobiling, traveling. Office: Union Trust Bldg. Residence: 62 Rowena St. KAHN, Julius; born, Munstereiffel, German, Mar. 8, 1874; son of Joseph and Rosalie Kahn; came to America with parents, 1880; educated in public schools of Detroit; B.S. University of Michigan, 1896, E.E., 1898; married at New York, Dec. 25, 1903, Margaret Kohut. Was civil engineer for U.S. Navy, assistant engineer U.S. Engineering Corps and in other engineering enterprises, 1896-1900; acted as manager and chief engineer of sulphur and iron mines for the Fuayama Shokai, Tokyo, Japan, in which continued for about three years; was associate member architectural firm of Albert Kahn, Detroit, and has been president of the Trussed Concrete Steel Co. since 1903; manager Concrete Steel and Tile Construction Co,; director people’s Ice Co. Jewish religion. member Detroit Board of Commerce, American Society of Civil Engineers, American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Detroit Engineering Society. Mason. Recreation: Automobiling. Office: Trussed Concrete Bldg. Residence: 128 Charlotte Av. |
Kathleen Member Username: Kathleen
Post Number: 1119 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 69.14.122.57
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 8:54 am: | |
Kahn also designed 610 Longfellow in the Boston-Edison neighborhood for James Couzens. |
Deegee Member Username: Deegee
Post Number: 23 Registered: 11-2004 Posted From: 69.216.99.224
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 9:41 am: | |
I've been checking Amazon.com for a copy of Ferry's-The Buildings of Detroit. It's always over $100. Is this reasonable? |
Islandman Member Username: Islandman
Post Number: 41 Registered: 08-2004 Posted From: 68.42.171.59
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:02 am: | |
I went to a wedding at Willistead Manor a few months back; definitely worth a trip to check out the inside. |
Pam Member Username: Pam
Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2005 Posted From: 67.107.47.65
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:55 am: | |
Deegee: You just missed getting a copy for less: http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Buildi ngs-of-Detroit-A-History-Photo s-W-H-Ferry_W0QQitemZ659662281 2QQcategoryZ29223QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (See thread about the book under Detroit Connections) (Message edited by Pam on January 20, 2006) |
Patrick Member Username: Patrick
Post Number: 3191 Registered: 10-2003 Posted From: 65.222.10.3
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 1:11 pm: | |
There is also a Tudor somewhere in Southfield that he built for his brother I believe. I think it is still there, but the propertyw as subdivided...anyone know where? |
Canuckr Member Username: Canuckr
Post Number: 9 Registered: 02-2005 Posted From: 71.67.157.248
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 2:52 pm: | |
I know the Redford library has a copy of Ferry's (The Buildings of Detroit) book. |
Wpitonya Member Username: Wpitonya
Post Number: 18 Registered: 08-2005 Posted From: 216.79.217.23
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:06 pm: | |
Thank you so much for your help, everyone...this website is great! Unfortunately, I live in South Carolina, so I cannot go see these houses. Does anyone have floor plans that you can e-mail me at wpitonya@edisto.cofc.edu ? |
Everydayislikesunday Member Username: Everydayislikesunday
Post Number: 149 Registered: 12-2004 Posted From: 68.41.153.99
| Posted on Friday, January 20, 2006 - 10:30 pm: | |
There are floor plans in The Legacy of Albert Kahn . My scanner is out of commission, otherwise I would gladly scan them for you. There's a used copy of the book on amazon for 18.00. |