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Wpitonya
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I am doing a project on HOUSES by Albert Kahn, not commercial buildings....can anyone help me with websites or books to look at for this??
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Kathleen
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Check W. Hawkins Ferry's The Buildings of Detroit as well as the AIA Detroit Architecture guides. Also, the DPL's Burton Collection will likely have clipping files and other info.
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Austinb1212
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The house on the bottom of this page is an Albert Kahn house:

http://citylivingdetroit.com/0 5/neighborh_bostone.php
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Everydayislikesunday
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The Legacy of Albert Kahn was originally published by the DIA in 1970, but I'm pretty sure there's a more recent printing. In this book you will be able to find a few chapters focusing on his residential works, with an impressive amount of photos.
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Spartacus
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Kahn designed Cranbrook House. There are a lot of books about the architecture at Cranbrook out there. I believe there is a library at the Cranbrook Art Musuem, I bet you can find some good stuff there.
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56packman
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Wpitonya--I have 8X10 glossies of the Alvan Macauley (Packard Motor Company)home in Grosse Pointe (now demolished), it was an Albert Kahn house. I could make scans for your project if you wanted. Let me know via this thread-page.
"ask the man who scans one"
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Krawlspace
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quote:

"ask the man who scans one"




LMAO
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Funkycarrie
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he did the Palms on Jefferson, which is residential...
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Walkerpub
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As you may or may not know, Walkerville is well represented with Kahn homes.

http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/architects.htm

Also visit Virtual Walkerville See # 12, 13, 15, 16, 17

http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/virtual_tour.htm

The most magnificent example of Kahn architecture south of the border remains Willistead Manor

http://www.walkervilletimes.co m/willistead.htm
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Broken_main
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Check these out

http://www.cranbrook.edu/house gardens/H_G-home.html

and this

http://www.answers.com/topic/a lbert-kahn
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Ray1936
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Out of curiosity, I just ran Albert Kahn on the 1920 U.S. Census for Detroit, and found him to be living at 62 Rowena Steet with his wife, Ernestine, three daughters and one son -- and three servants. I can't place Rowena Street in my mind....anyone know of it? Would be interesting to see if the home he lived in still exists.
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Patrick
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Wpitonya, I have a great deal of information about various AK homes…and residential architecture in general. Unfortunately, it is nearly impossible to locate every home he did. Sure, his firm did thousands of residential projects, but I question the amount of touches AK personally put on these homes.

At times, his firm used other designers, but never gave them credit. Smith, Hinchman & Grylls used Bloodgood Tuttle for several of their fine residential projects. I am sure Kahn put more detail and effort into the more exclusive projects.

Anyone have the figure for the exact amount of homes AK did in Boston-Edison, Palmer Woods, and Indian Village?
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Jimaz
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Not sure if it counts as residential but pictures of the Packard Proving Grounds lodge in Shelby Twp can by found in a link waaaaay at the bottom of this page:
http://shelbyhistory.tripod.co m/id14.html
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Neilr
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Ray1936,
Rowena ran east from Woodward to about Russell where it became Mack. At some point, Rowena was encorporated into Mack. The Albert Kahn House still exists on the SE corner of Mack & John R. It has been the home of the Urban League for many years. So it has two valuable connections to Detroit's history.

(Message edited by neilr on January 19, 2006)
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Upinottawa
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For less than $900,000 CDN you can buy one:

http://www.mls.ca/PropertyDeta ils.aspx?vd=&SearchURL=%3fPage %3d2%26Mode%3d0%26vs%3d1%26rlt %3d%26cp%3d%26pt%3d0%26mp%3d20 0000-0-0%26mrt%3d-1-0-0%26Beds %3d2-0%26Baths%3d0-0%26f%3d%26 ft%3dall%26o%3dA%26of%3d1%26ps %3d10%26ptgid%3d1%26aid%3d1892 %26MapURL%3d%253fAreaID%253d65 36%2526amp%253bSelID%253d6536& Mode=0&PropertyID=3970062

(Message edited by upinottawa on January 19, 2006)
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Ray1936
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Ah! Good info, neilr....I know where that building is now; almost picture it in my mind. Thanks much.
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Mackinaw
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See some in person, here are some that I know about

1009 Yorkshire GPP
266 Lakeland GPC*
456 University GPC
626 Lincoln GPC
28 McKinley Pl. GPF
257 Ridge (at Touraine) GPF*
273 Ridge (at Vendome) GPF*
189 Cloverly (at Ridge) GPF
41 Provencal (at Kercheval) GPF (originally at Jefferson and Seminole)*
59 Lakeshore GPF
880 Lakeshore GPS
1100 Lakeshore GPS*

1042 Seminole
1411 Iroquois

and many more in Indian Village, and we have sources for IV on this forum. The * = must see.
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Aiw
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UpinOttawa, I've been in that house, and it's just awesome.

It also has some neat extras, including the tiffany lamp that came from the 1915 "remodel" as well as an Albert Kahn designed Dining Room set. The lines on the sideboard and Dining room table match the lines on the wood panelling trim.

If I had the cash, I'd buy it in a second.
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Gary
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Neilr, thanks for that information. I'm familiar with the Mack/John R location, but I read somewhere that Albert Kahn lived on Atkinson, west of Woodward. I took the time to drive past the house a few years ago, but I do not remember the exact address. I can't recall the source of this information, but it I will check my sources to see I can confirm it. Maybe this Atkinson address was prior to or subsequent to his stay on Rowena? Perhaps some census records or old phone directory listings could shed some light on this.
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Ray1936
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Kahn resided on Rowena in the 1910 and 1920 U.S. Census reports. I don't have access to the 1930, but he may well have moved on by that year. In 1900 he was living with his in-laws on Eliot street. (He died around 1942 as I recall).
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Aiw
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Ray he lived in the house on Rowena/Mack from 1906 until his death in 1942.
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Entry from 1905 "The Detroiters"

KAHN, Albert, architect; born, Rhaunen, Westphalia, Germany, Mar. 21, 1869; son of Joseph and Rosalie (Cohn) Kahn; came to America, 1881; educated in public and high schools in Germany; held American architect scholarship for study abroad, 1890-91; married at Detroit, 1897, Ernestine Krolik. Has been engaged in practice of profession in Detroit since 1904. Buildings: Detroit Aquarium and Horticultural Bldg., Burroughs Adding Machine plant, Temple Beth El, Packard Motor Car plant, Palms Apartment Bldg., etc. Director People’s Ice Co., Brown & Brown Coal Co., Trussed Concrete Steel Co. member American Institute of Architects, Fine Arts Society, Detroit Art Commission. Club: Phoenix. Recreations: Automobiling, traveling. Office: Union Trust Bldg. Residence: 62 Rowena St.

KAHN, Julius; born, Munstereiffel, German, Mar. 8, 1874; son of Joseph and Rosalie Kahn; came to America with parents, 1880; educated in public schools of Detroit; B.S. University of Michigan, 1896, E.E., 1898; married at New York, Dec. 25, 1903, Margaret Kohut. Was civil engineer for U.S. Navy, assistant engineer U.S. Engineering Corps and in other engineering enterprises, 1896-1900; acted as manager and chief engineer of sulphur and iron mines for the Fuayama Shokai, Tokyo, Japan, in which continued for about three years; was associate member architectural firm of Albert Kahn, Detroit, and has been president of the Trussed Concrete Steel Co. since 1903; manager Concrete Steel and Tile Construction Co,; director people’s Ice Co. Jewish religion. member Detroit Board of Commerce, American Society of Civil Engineers, American Society of Mechanical Engineers, Detroit Engineering Society. Mason. Recreation: Automobiling. Office: Trussed Concrete Bldg. Residence: 128 Charlotte Av.
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Kathleen
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Kahn also designed 610 Longfellow in the Boston-Edison neighborhood for James Couzens.
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I've been checking Amazon.com for a copy of Ferry's-The Buildings of Detroit. It's always over $100. Is this reasonable?
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Islandman
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I went to a wedding at Willistead Manor a few months back; definitely worth a trip to check out the inside.
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Pam
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Deegee: You just missed getting a copy for less:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Buildi ngs-of-Detroit-A-History-Photo s-W-H-Ferry_W0QQitemZ659662281 2QQcategoryZ29223QQssPageNameZ WDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

(See thread about the book under Detroit Connections)

(Message edited by Pam on January 20, 2006)
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Patrick
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There is also a Tudor somewhere in Southfield that he built for his brother I believe. I think it is still there, but the propertyw as subdivided...anyone know where?
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I know the Redford library has a copy of Ferry's (The Buildings of Detroit) book.
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Wpitonya
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Thank you so much for your help, everyone...this website is great! Unfortunately, I live in South Carolina, so I cannot go see these houses. Does anyone have floor plans that you can e-mail me at wpitonya@edisto.cofc.edu ?
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Everydayislikesunday
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There are floor plans in The Legacy of Albert Kahn . My scanner is out of commission, otherwise I would gladly scan them for you. There's a used copy of the book on amazon for 18.00.

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